Is it worth it to wait for Ryzen 3000

[SlicerZrT]

I currently have a ivy-bridge Core i5 3330 and I want to upgrade, since ddr3 and my limited clock speeds are really slowing my gtx 1050 ti down, I just wanna find out if upgrading to Ryzen 3000 and ddr4 is worth the price tag, not to mention m.2 support, or should I focus my money elsewhere?

 

If so, what would the best Ryzen 3000 processor be for gaming and gpu accelerated content creation? 

[Jurrunio]

How could the 3330 hold back a 1050ti? What are you doing with it?

 

3rd gen Ryzen is so far worth waiting, but until core counts and frequency and most importantly prices are set I can't say which CPU is the best choice. Btw rumours of 3rd gen Ryzen's spec are mostly fake because they are way too optimistic.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

5 minutes ago, SlicerZrT said:

Ryzen 3000 and ddr4 is worth the price tag, not to mention m.2 support, or should I focus my money elsewhere?

for gaming, getting a good gpu is still 1st priority 

at this price point of ddr4 ram, is coming down slowly,  just be patient waiting for reviews of new ryzen.

 

[dizmo]

I'd definitely wait for Zen 2. It's not that far off, and if the rumors are true, it'll be a beast.

[Streetguru]

15 minutes ago, SlicerZrT said:

 

We don't know exactly what Ryzen 3000 will be in reality, the 5ghz rumor is pretty crazy, though maybe 7nm is magic, although it's just like a 14nm ++++++++ node or something.

 

but if your income is steady you can pick up an R5 1600/2600 + ASrock Pro4/MSI Tomahawk B450 board with 16GBs of 3200mhz RAM to set yourself up for an easy upgrade

Unless X570 boards bring major improvements of course, but that's why I suggested a cheap motherboard.

[mxk]

Even though the leaks are too good to be true, I think AMD is gonna bring something good to the table so it'll probably be a good upgrade for you.

[Speed Weed]

I will say wait to see the benchmarks and reviews. Rushing is no good. Patient is good. 

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, SlicerZrT said:

I currently have a ivy-bridge Core i5 3330 and I want to upgrade, since ddr3 and my limited clock speeds are really slowing my gtx 1050 ti down, I just wanna find out if upgrading to Ryzen 3000 and ddr4 is worth the price tag, not to mention m.2 support, or should I focus my money elsewhere?

 

If so, what would the best Ryzen 3000 processor be for gaming and gpu accelerated content creation? 

Depends on how long you can wait.
Your System right now is rather low end and might cause Problems with some 

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

We don't know exactly what Ryzen 3000 will be in reality, the 5ghz rumor is pretty crazy, though maybe 7nm is magic, although it's just like a 14nm ++++++++ node or something.

Not really...
We're talking about 4,3GHz Top right now in 12nm, 5GHz Top Boost would only be 16%. Wich is a pretty bad increase for a Die Shrink.

 

And Die Shrinks are usually responsible for higher clock increases, if the manufacturing isn't too bad...

For example back in the day when there was the shrink from 250nm to 180nm.

Highest clocked 250nm Pentium 3 was IIRC 600MHz or 650MHz.

The highest clocked 130nm Pentium 3 was 800MHz (cC0 Stepping) and 1133MHz (cD0 Stepping)...

 

So that's almost double the Frequency!

Or look at the Pentium 4. The 0,18µ Willamette was released with up to 2200MHz 

The 130nm ones (the legendary Northwood) +~50% -> 3,4GHz

Prescott only to around 3,8GHz but only because there went something wrong...

And 4GHz+ was planned but never released for obvious reasons...

 

Same with the Phenom. The Phenom 1 was around 2.5GHz or so, the Phenom 2 went up to 3.6GHz or so...

 

So yes, its highly probable that the frequency increases a bit over 10%!

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Unless X570 boards bring major improvements of course, but that's why I suggested a cheap motherboard.

I'd wait to CES for that...

 

And its probable that there are differences due to higher TDP...

[tonymc]

7 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Depends on how long you can wait.
Your System right now is rather low end and might cause Problems with some 

Not really...
We're talking about 4,3GHz Top right now in 12nm, 5GHz Top Boost would only be 16%. Wich is a pretty bad increase for a Die Shrink.

 

And Die Shrinks are usually responsible for higher clock increases, if the manufacturing isn't too bad...

For example back in the day when there was the shrink from 250nm to 180nm.

Highest clocked 250nm Pentium 3 was IIRC 600MHz or 650MHz.

The highest clocked 130nm Pentium 3 was 800MHz (cC0 Stepping) and 1133MHz (cD0 Stepping)...

 

So that's almost double the Frequency!

Or look at the Pentium 4. The 0,18µ Willamette was released with up to 2200MHz 

The 130nm ones (the legendary Northwood) +~50% -> 3,4GHz

Prescott only to around 3,8GHz but only because there went something wrong...

And 4GHz+ was planned but never released for obvious reasons...

 

Same with the Phenom. The Phenom 1 was around 2.5GHz or so, the Phenom 2 went up to 3.6GHz or so...

 

So yes, its highly probable that the frequency increases a bit over 10%!

I'd wait to CES for that...

 

And its probable that there are differences due to higher TDP...

To this very good answer, I would add that not everything is clock frequency in the processors ...
You have to remember how Conroe arrived at 1.86 Hhz to compete with Pentium D at 3ghz and was superior, because the architecture had a much higher IPC.

So, if Ryzen 3000 brings significant changes in its architecture to gain in IPC, it will not need to scale so much in clock frequency.

7 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

The 130nm ones (the legendary Northwood)

 

If you see, you know what you're talking about ...

[tonymc]

11 hours ago, SlicerZrT said:

I currently have a ivy-bridge Core i5 3330 and I want to upgrade, since ddr3 and my limited clock speeds are really slowing my gtx 1050 ti down, I just wanna find out if upgrading to Ryzen 3000 and ddr4 is worth the price tag, not to mention m.2 support, or should I focus my money elsewhere?

 

If so, what would the best Ryzen 3000 processor be for gaming and gpu accelerated content creation? 

I do not think that a core i5 3330 is a small thing for a GTX1050Ti, but if you decide to change your system, it would be better to wait, in short it is a short time (one or two months I think) and you will win at least in some way, because which is in the market right now will come down in price, it's almost certain.

[SlicerZrT]

12 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

How could the 3330 hold back a 1050ti? What are you doing with it?

 

3rd gen Ryzen is so far worth waiting, but until core counts and frequency and most importantly prices are set I can't say which CPU is the best choice. Btw rumours of 3rd gen Ryzen's spec are mostly fake because they are way too optimistic.

My 3330 cannot handle my gpu, I used hwmonitor and my cpu was at 100 % whilst my gpu, 33%.

I think that it's my motherboard. 

[SlicerZrT]

I'm seriously thinking of leaving team blue, I've had a Athlon 2, but the mobo's north bridge blew. 

 

Sorry for the late reply, I'm currently enjoying my holiday.