PSU for Vega 56 + Ryzen 5 2600?

[Brad275]

I currently have a Thermaltake Smart 600W (80+ White) and I am really pushing it budget-wise already to get a vega 56. Will this psu be able to support it, or will I need to go for something higher. I don't really plan on OCing and maybe undervolting and limiting the power draw could help?

[mxk]

Do you have a pcpartpicker.com list? That'll give you an approximate voltage.

 

 

[TheRaggingSword]

As long as you have the external pcie power cables for your power supply it should be fine

[mxk]

Though, usually I suggest getting a little more in power than the site suggests just for headroom

[Brad275]

18 minutes ago, mxk. said:

Do you have a pcpartpicker.com list? That'll give you an approximate voltage.

 

 

Pcpartpicker says it would be around 315w, but that seems off

[mxk]

11 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

Pcpartpicker says it would be around 315w, but that seems off

Why does that seem off? Sounds about right to me.

[mxk]

35 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

Thermaltake Smart 600W (80+ White) 

I'm looking at the PSU tier list that some very cool people made for consumers as a guide, and your PSU is pretty low on the list, second to the bottom in fact. Your PSU isn't the most reliable for the long run, but since you're not overclocking, you're undervolting. Since you're high on your budget, this PSU will be fine but I recommend getting a different one in the future, from the first 3 tiers of the list.

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

6 hours ago, Brad275 said:

I currently have a Thermaltake Smart 600W (80+ White) and I am really pushing it budget-wise already to get a vega 56. Will this psu be able to support it, or will I need to go for something higher. I don't really plan on OCing and maybe undervolting and limiting the power draw could help?

No because you need a good quality PSU and not some low end garbage that should never even have been made...

[Brad275]

9 hours ago, mxk. said:

Why does that seem off? Sounds about right to me.

If that seems right, then why do people recommend a 750w for this card?

[mxk]

17 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

If that seems right, then why do people recommend a 750w for this card?

Because Vega uses more power than the GTX 10 series. You should just get a new PSU from tiers 1-3 with 650w

[Brad275]

2 hours ago, mxk. said:

Because Vega uses more power than the GTX 10 series. You should just get a new PSU from tiers 1-3 with 650w

Sounds good. Should I worry about using this one for a few months though?

[mxk]

22 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

Sounds good. Should I worry about using this one for a few months though?

It's definitely not the safest. Try as much as you can to save for a better one and make sure to refer to the psu tier list 3.0

[Brad275]

2 hours ago, mxk. said:

It's definitely not the safest. Try as much as you can to save for a better one and make sure to refer to the psu tier list 3.0

I have used this psu for about a year and a half with no problems, but that was with an rx480. Do think I should get a 1070ti for the same price as the Vega instead?

[David_2716]

I was in the same predicament and decide on getting a 1070ti because I don't have a freesync monitor and it was a bit faster in most games than the 56 form the test i saw however if you do have a freesync monitor I would go for the 56. It also gets a bit hotter than a ti but it shouldn't be a problem. idk where your buying it but newegg also has a special where you get 3 free games if you buy an amd card as well as Nvidia cards also but only one game so that's something to keep in mind.  

[Brad275]

5 minutes ago, David_2716 said:

I was in the same predicament and decide on getting a 1070ti because I don't have a freesync monitor and it was a bit faster in most games than the 56 form the test i saw however if you do have a freesync monitor I would go for the 56. It also gets a bit hotter than a ti but it shouldn't be a problem. idk where your buying it but newegg also has a special where you get 3 free games if you buy an amd card as well as Nvidia cards also but only one game so that's something to keep in mind.  

 

I do not have a free sync or g sync monitor at the moment and I don’t care much about game deals. From what I have seen the 1070ti is faster in most current games where as the Vega will be better in future games. What do you recommend?

[David_2716]

well like you said if you wanna future proof a bit then a vega 56 would be good however we don't know how long it will take developers to take advantage of the vega cards they still have to abide by console standards which they might just port over and not give any features the ti on the other hand is also very good right and wont go anywhere anytime soon so both cards will last you a long time. They are both pretty much the same performance wise and if you really don't mind waiting and want an amd card you can wait for the Navi cards that AMd is releasing that will rival the Nvidia cards at a cheaper price. (supposably that's what the leaks say). If not it's really your preference at this point.     

[Brad275]

10 hours ago, mxk. said:

It's definitely not the safest. Try as much as you can to save for a better one and make sure to refer to the psu tier list 3.0

Do you think Evga 650 B3 would be good?

[mxk]

3 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

Do you think Evga 650 B3 would be good?

Did you look at the list??????????????????????????

 

[mxk]

7 hours ago, Brad275 said:

 

I do not have a free sync or g sync monitor at the moment and I don’t care much about game deals. From what I have seen the 1070ti is faster in most current games where as the Vega will be better in future games. What do you recommend?

how would vega be faster in future games? I guess it kinda makes sense but not really at the same time

[mxk]

5 minutes ago, Brad275 said:

Do you think Evga 650 B3 would be good?

I linked you this list so you can refer to it.

 

Like I said, I would recommend anything from tiers S-B.

[mxk]

8 hours ago, Brad275 said:

I have used this psu for about a year and a half with no problems, but that was with an rx480. Do think I should get a 1070ti for the same price as the Vega instead?

Nvidia cards use less power than vega but it won't save you much money on power supplies

Just because you didn't have any problems doesn't mean your PSU isn't absolute trash, it just means it hasn't decided to take its own life. It'll die faster than PSU's should

[Quadriplegic]

14 hours ago, Brad275 said:

If that seems right, then why do people recommend a 750w for this card?

Because people are dumb. They believe marketing tools as PSU calculators and go for high wattage PSUs, ignoring quality of the unit itself.

Regarding your question of 1070 Ti vs Vega 56, I'd suggest to get whichever is cheaper that has good cooler. Out of the box 1070 Ti will perform better than Vega, tweaked Vega should come pretty close to tweaked 1070 Ti.

[mxk]

13 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

Because people are dumb. They believe marketing tools as PSU calculators and go for high wattage PSUs, ignoring quality of the unit itself.

Regarding your question of 1070 Ti vs Vega 56, I'd suggest to get whichever is cheaper that has good cooler. Out of the box 1070 Ti will perform better than Vega, tweaked Vega should come pretty close to tweaked 1070 Ti.

technically vega 56 is godlike. Theres some easy mods you can do with it and send the performance through the roof. Gamers Nexus made a video on it.

[Quadriplegic]

2 minutes ago, mxk. said:

technically vega 56 is godlike. Theres some easy mods you can do with it and send the performance through the roof. Gamers Nexus made a video on it.

I know it can match Vega 64 in performance after tweaking. 

The thing is, 1070 Ti has lot of OC potential too