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RX 590 + i5400

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Just now, Scorpio 72472 said:

@LukeSavenije @mxk. One last thing

My intended 16gig 2400 is 10k bdt (my local currency)

And if I take ryzen then there's 14k for the 16gig 3200 ram and an even better cooler that'll cost me approximately 5k more than the intel combo 

80bdt = 1usd

60 bucks more and the ability to overclock in the future? double the treads? higher ram speed? I would do it.

I'm building mostly a gaming PC and the main spec are:

1. i5 8400

2. Sapphire nitro rx 590

3. 16 GB (2x8) 2400mhz ram

4. Gigabyte b360 d2v

 

Would pairing 8400 and 590 be a good idea? I don't want to take AMD cpu like that 2600 because I'll have to take a higher clocked RAM to support their infinity fabric feature and their motherboard normally costs more. I'm budget limited so i won't be able to afford 16 gigs if I take r5 2600

 

Thank you.

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The RX590 is overpriced imo. It performs less than 10% better than a RX580, I'd just get that instead and keep the change.

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Well the i5 8400 is sufficient to drive the RX 590 in gaming, you just limit your upgrade path however the system is balanced.

 

Only thing to have in mind is that the RX 580 and RX 590 are much of the same, if the $ is significantly cheaper with the RX 580 just grab it instead and OC.

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3 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

I'm building mostly a gaming PC and the main spec are:

1. i5 8400

2. Sapphire nitro rx 590

3. 16 GB (2x8) 2400mhz ram

4. Gigabyte b360 d2v

 

Would pairing 8400 and 590 be a good idea? I don't want to take AMD cpu like that 2600 because I'll have to take a higher clocked RAM to support their infinity fabric feature and their motherboard normally costs more. I'm budget limited so i won't be able to afford 16 gigs if I take r5 2600

 

Thank you.

Also, you would sacrifice FPS in game when using Ryzen, as they tend to have worse single core and thread performance than their Intel counterparts.

 

The RX 590, although on the smaller 12nm process, performs barely above the 580 for much more. If you were to OC the 580 you could likely hit near 590 level performance or even the same performance, depending on your luck. I would get the 580 instead. 

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7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Well the i5 8400 is sufficient to drive the RX 590 in gaming, you just limit your upgrade path however the system is balanced.

 

Only thing to have in mind is that the RX 580 and RX 590 are much of the same, if the $ is significantly cheaper with the RX 580 just grab it instead and OC.

Price difference between 590 and 580 is $10

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4 minutes ago, Finwillwin said:

I would get an overclocked 580 and use the money use save to buy a Ryzen 2600.

Price difference between 590 and 580 is $10 from where I'm from

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5 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

Also, you would sacrifice FPS in game when using Ryzen, as they tend to have worse single core and thread performance than their Intel counterparts.

 

The RX 590, although on the smaller 12nm process, performs barely above the 580 for much more. If you were to OC the 580 you could likely hit near 590 level performance or even the same performance, depending on your luck. I would get the 580 instead. 

From where I'm from, 590 and 580 have price difference of $10. I also wanted to take the 1060 6gb but 590 is more powerful

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Just now, Scorpio 72472 said:

From where I'm from, 590 and 580 have price difference of $10. I also wanted to take the 1060 6gb but 590 is more powerful

Are you comparing 2 cards of the same/similar cooler design? For low-mid range AMD’s offerings are usually cheaper and better than Nvidia.

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17 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

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You'd be surprised to know that it's just 12nm FinFet, it's actually the exact same architecture as the 14nm node, so it's really much if the same... Sadly.

 

11 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

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You know if you favor nVidia and you can pay for a RX590 a GTX 1070 really shouldn't be that out of question.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

You'd be surprised to know that it's just 12nm FinFet, it's actually the exact same architecture as the 14nm node, so it's really much if the same... Sadly.

 

You know if you favor nVidia and you can pay for a RX590 a GTX 1070 really shouldn't be that out of question.

Maybe a used 1070Ti could be an option if OP doesn’t mind going for used cards. 

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1 minute ago, _d0nut said:

Maybe a used 1070Ti could be an option if OP doesn’t mind going for used cards. 

Hell's even a GTX 980 Ti, plenty of options right now both used and new.

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28 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

their motherboard normally costs more

Not sure where you got that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $169.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $66.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $100.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $337.86
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 09:37 EST-0500  

Unless you're not from the US, but I still don't think Ryzen motherboards would cost more than Intel. That doesn't seem right. Also, you can overclock the CPU on this morherboard, and ram too.

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Not sure where you got that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $169.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $66.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $100.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $337.86
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 09:37 EST-0500  

Unless you're not from the US, but I still don't think Ryzen motherboards would cost more than Intel. That doesn't seem right. Also, you can overclock the CPU on this morherboard, and ram too.

Not a big fan of that specific mobo. I would pay a little more for the b450 pro4. but that's imo

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

Not a big fan of that specific mobo. I would pay a little more for the b450 pro4. but that's imo

It's compared to the B360 Dv2 in the original post, so both pretty budget options.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

It's compared to the B360 Dv2 in the original post, so both pretty budget options.

yeah, but if we go to the ryzen side of things (or even intel for that matter) I think you should get a good motherboard in the first place. doesn't have to be a 500 dollar motherboard, but something around the price of a pro4 (atx) should be a better choise imo. but I get the comparing with it. at least it isn't a h310 (oh walmart)

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18 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Not sure where you got that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $169.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $66.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $100.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $337.86
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 09:37 EST-0500  

Unless you're not from the US, but I still don't think Ryzen motherboards would cost more than Intel. That doesn't seem right. Also, you can overclock the CPU on this morherboard, and ram too.

No motherboard 300 chipset is under $100 where I'm from except h310

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27 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You'd be surprised to know that it's just 12nm FinFet, it's actually the exact same architecture as the 14nm node, so it's really much if the same... Sadly.

 

You know if you favor nVidia and you can pay for a RX590 a GTX 1070 really shouldn't be that out of question.

1070 is $100 more than 590

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1 minute ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

1070 is $100 more than 590

What's the used market like in your region? Can you use eBay?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

what about b450? and b350?

360, 350 450 are within $3 of each other

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50 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

I'm building mostly a gaming PC and the main spec are:

1. i5 8400

2. Sapphire nitro rx 590

3. 16 GB (2x8) 2400mhz ram

4. Gigabyte b360 d2v

 

Would pairing 8400 and 590 be a good idea? I don't want to take AMD cpu like that 2600 because I'll have to take a higher clocked RAM to support their infinity fabric feature and their motherboard normally costs more. I'm budget limited so i won't be able to afford 16 gigs if I take r5 2600

 

Thank you.

No idea where you heard AMD motherboards cost more. That's wrong. Intel motherboards usually cost more.

 

40 minutes ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

From where I'm from, 590 and 580 have price difference of $10. I also wanted to take the 1060 6gb but 590 is more powerful

In that case i'd go for the RX 590.

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

What's the used market like in your region? Can you use eBay?

I'm from Bangladesh. And I don't trust the used market because there isn't any insurance regulation. So I cam get dead shit and not get refund

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1 minute ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

360, 350 450 are within $3 of each other

know that b350 and b360 are two completely different boards. b350 and b450 are amd and b360 is intel. what boards are we talking about? pro4 maybe?

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1 minute ago, Scorpio 72472 said:

I'm from Bangladesh. And I don't trust the used market because there isn't any insurance regulation. So I cam get dead shit and not get refund

eBay fully insures buyers

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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