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Daily power surges in Games (Asus Anti-Surge)

Payne-Z
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Please help me troubleshoot this, i have been receiving power surges every day for the last 3 years. It's driving me crazy. It only happens in games, completely random, an average of 1 power surge per day, not even when things get intense, just random. Doesn't matter if the game is demanding or not. The image freezes with repetitive sound and i can only reboot my computer if i plug it off and on. Then Bios says something like: Asus Anti-Surge has been Triggered.

Here are my specs:

Motherboard: ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING [ Z170-PRO-GAMING ]

PSU: Corsair CS Series Modular CS650M [ CS650M (CP-9020077) ]
CPU: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz box [ BX80662I76700K ]

Memory: Crucial 8GB DDR4 2133MHz CL15 [ CT8G4DFD8213 ]

Old GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 970 STRIX OC 4GB DDR5 256-bit [ STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5 ]
Brand new GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 DUAL OC, 8GB, GDDR6, 256-bit [ DUAL-RTX2080-O8G ]


I'm at the point of disabling that stupid Asus Anti-Surge from Bios because i have no idea what's causing it.

Here is what i ruled out so far:
-it can't be the GPU because i just changed my old GPU tree weeks ago with a brand new RTX 2080 and it's still doing it
-it can't be the power in my home because it only happens in games, in 3 years it never randomly happened outside of playing a game. (i also keep buying expensive outlet power strips with surge protectors but they don't help)
-i don't think it's a RAM issue, i just upgraded to 16Gb with another 8Gb slot of the same frequency, i still get power surges

I know it might be my PSU but it is 650W and Gold Certified. Do i need something like 1000W or something to be completely safe from power surges? I'm afraid to buy a really expensive one and then find out that it was a motherboard issue of Asus anti-surge just being over sensitive from the power fluctuations in my home. I don't want to waste 300$ on a 1000W PSU then find out that my 650W was working fine.

Can i disable the Asus Anti-Surge from Bios? Is there any risk or counter-measures to have it disabled without frying my PC if something bad does happen?


 

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it MAY be the PSU... but 650W sounds like you shouldn't have any problems with what your running. it could be that its a bad one but i doubt it. 

 

if you had these problems like you said 3 years ago... why didn't you RMA the board when it happened originally? because it sounds like a Mobo issue. 

Rig 1: i7-9700k OC'd to 5.0ghz all core | EVGA XC RTX 2080Ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | ASUS PRIME Z370-P | Asetek 550LC 120mm | ADATA 480GB SSD & Toshiba P300 3TB | Cooler Master Masterbox MB500 | Win 10 Home | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, G502 Proteus Spectrum, G933 Artemis Spectrum Snow Wireless Limited Edition, Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad | 2 MSI Optix Curved 27" FHD Monitors 

 

(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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Because i didn't knew if it was a motherboard issue, a PSU issue, or simply a faulty power wiring in my home. Also i had weeks of not happening then randomly happen every day again. I was 100% sure that if i did RMA it they would test it and not happen to them. Because back than i used my PC unconventionally. I only played games in 3D with my 3D Vision glasses so i put some extra strain on the computer while gaming. But my new monitor doesn't support 3D so now i'm gaming in 2D like everybody else and it's still happening daily.

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Then that PSU has likely gone bad. 80+ is merely an efficiency rating, it doesnt care about voltage ripple or actual voltage levels under different loads. However Asus Anti-Surge can trip when input voltages go out of ATX spec (not sure if it can detect ripple, but I assume it can as power surges also come quick).

 

That's just my guess, unless you can get an oscilloscope and measure the input voltage there's no proof that it's not the PSU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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And what happens if it is my PSU and i disable my Asus Anti-Surge? Will it fry my PC the next time it happens?

I would like to disable Asus Anti-Surge just rule out the motherboard but i'm afraid of what would happen to the next power surge, will it still be a freeze with repetitive sound or something way more serious that can damage my components?

I just want to find out for sure between the mobo and PSU who is at fault, i don't have an oscilloscope but if i turn off my asus anti-surge and that random freeze turns into a shutdown or something then i will know for sure that i need to replace my PSU.

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I finally solved my issue! The solution was a simple update to my Bios. I had a Bios version from 2015, i updated it with the latest 2018 Bios driver.

I haven't got a daily Freeze since and i have been stress testing my PC for days.

I can't believe after 3 years this madness is finally over. I now have new problems since the bios update but well worth the trade-off. Now my PC won't shut down. After pressing the "Shut Down" button, monitor closes but the PC remains active (fans and lights still running). It also has a long black screen delay when it tries to start up windows. I had this problem in the past and going to Power Options and disabling "fast startup" always seemed to fix it but that doesn't fix it anymore.

A minor inconvenience but i'm glad i solved my power surge problem.

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