is this PSU any good?

[not so Important]

On 11/28/2018 at 3:50 AM, Stefan Payne said:

I'd say so, yes.

Though the Master Watt probably has a bit better fan, overall I'd choose the System Power 9.

so i should be going for the be quiet one?

 

On 11/28/2018 at 3:46 AM, Quadriplegic said:

False. Kilobaitas is known as one of more expensive stores, especially considering that they do not really have retail stores anymore. 
 

@Stefan Payne Is System Power 9 a better choice than Masterwatt?
https://www.1a.lt/kompiuteriu_komponentai_tinklo_produktai/korpusas_ir_ausinimas/maitinimo_blokai/be_quiet_system_power_9_500w

so i should be going for the be quiet one?

 

On 11/27/2018 at 1:29 PM, LukeSavenije said:

safe, yeah. recommended? no

is this one good chief? https://www.varle.lt/maitinimo-blokai/psu-be-quiet-system-power-9-400w-80plus-bronze--8474477.html

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, not so Important said:

is this one good chief? https://www.varle.lt/maitinimo-blokai/psu-be-quiet-system-power-9-400w-80plus-bronze--8474477.html

altho it's tier d, it's at least a good one. It's one i'm actually sure of that it's good. you don't need my recommendation if you have Stefan's already, so go ahead

[not so Important]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

altho it's tier d, it's at least a good one. It's one i'm actually sure of that it's good. you don't need my recommendation if you have Stefan's already, so go ahead

so its bad? and can it even run my rx 560?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, not so Important said:

so its bad? and can it even run my rx 560?

It easily can. and look, tiers don't say everything. people do. and as I know @Stefan Payne is kinda a psu nerd, you're fine to get what he recommends

[not so Important]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

It easily can. and look, tiers don't say everything. people do. and as I know @Stefan Payne is kinda a psu nerd, you're fine to get what he recommends

finally im on to something! also thank you so much for wasting so much time for me  also u got a very nice profile picture

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, not so Important said:

finally im on to something! also thank you so much for wasting so much time for me  also u got a very nice profile picture

no problem. I'm actually making something new inside Paint Shop Pro 7 (like 2003).

[not so Important]

1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

no problem. I'm actually making something new inside Paint Shop Pro 7 (like 2003).

i dont think i can my psu actually..m the 24pin connector just doesnt come out, been trying for like 30 minutes

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, not so Important said:

i dont think i can my psu actually..m the 24pin connector just doesnt come out, been trying for like 30 minutes

You see that little thing in the top? Put some pressure on it and it should get off pretty easy

[not so Important]

On 11/28/2018 at 9:48 AM, LukeSavenije said:

You see that little thing in the top? Put some pressure on it and it should get off pretty easy

all the time i was pushing it no effect.. idk what to even do

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, not so Important said:

all the time i was pushing it no effect.. idk what to even do

Oh, that's kinda weird

[not so Important]

On 11/28/2018 at 9:55 AM, LukeSavenije said:

Oh, that's kinda weird

its just stuck, feels like its glued or something, imma try couple more times

 

On 11/28/2018 at 9:55 AM, LukeSavenije said:

Oh, that's kinda weird

i did it

[Stefan Payne]

10 hours ago, not so Important said:

so i should be going for the be quiet one?

Yeah, I'd go for them because of some minor details and its cheaper.

Fan is something I don't like but the Cooler Master has a not very good Semi Fanless implementation.

And with one of my Systems (well, one that I had) I could provoke noise from the that is in line with the HDD. So that's a (small?) minus as well...

 

Essentially, both units are very similar with some minor differences here and there and with what I know (and can't say), I'd go for the be quiet...

10 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

It easily can. and look, tiers don't say everything. people do. and as I know @Stefan Payne is kinda a psu nerd, you're fine to get what he recommends

Thank you for your trust in me...

[17030644]

9 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yeah, I'd go for them because of some minor details and its cheaper.

Fan is something I don't like but the Cooler Master has a not very good Semi Fanless implementation.

And with one of my Systems (well, one that I had) I could provoke noise from the that is in line with the HDD. So that's a (small?) minus as well...

 

Essentially, both units are very similar with some minor differences here and there and with what I know (and can't say), I'd go for the be quiet...

Thank you for your trust in me...

Hi, can you respond to some people

 

I made a thread in a latinoamerican forum explaining that EVGA W1/B1 etc weren't a good buy because there were group regulated and bla bla, and they started talking about UPS shit that has nothing to do with the topic.

 

They said that those PSU were enough and you only need a quality UPS

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, 17030644 said:

Hi, can you respond to some people

 

I made a thread in a latinoamerican forum explaining that EVGA W1/B1 etc weren't a good buy because there were group regulated and bla bla, and they started talking about UPS shit that has nothing to do with the topic.

 

They said that those PSU were enough and you only need a quality UPS

Group regulated/Indy is Secondary stuff.

UPS is something that filters the Primary....

So that has nothing to do with each other...

 

Its like you saying that you need to get good oil for the motor and the others then reply that you need good brakes. While it is not false, it just has nothing to do with each other...

[17030644]

On 11/28/2018 at 8:08 PM, Stefan Payne said:

Group regulated/Indy is Secondary stuff.

UPS is something that filters the Primary....

So that has nothing to do with each other...

 

Its like you saying that you need to get good oil for the motor and the others then reply that you need good brakes. While it is not false, it just has nothing to do with each other...

Yes I know they are completely different things, but in short, they claim that you can have the worst PSU and it'll be fine so long as you have good input protection. Though you can have the best PSU and it will still be ruined if you have a poor electrical installation.

 

They probably don't realize that the PSU itself has a transient filter/APFC that takes those duties (i'm not saying UPS and stuff are not requiered) and also they ignore that they need secondary protection as well, something that has to do only with the PSU.

 

This is exactly what they said (it's a translation bc it's a spanish forum but anyway):

 

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Protection features on power supplys
aren't important if you have a proper
electrical instalation at home.

If you have a good quality circuit-braker
and also a UPS or regulator it's
not as relevant but it's kind of
important.

On the other hand, if you don't have
a good electrical installation
regardless of what PC you have you'll
get fried components.

4

 

an this:

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When I worked as an IT we would be given generic chinese power supplys.
Besided they'd been used for loke 10 years. The thing is,
all of them had a UPS chances are you will have to replace the battery
on your UPS before having a dead PSU.

The only dead computers were mostly
plugged into cheap-ass shit power strips.

 

and there are some other random users that say pretty much the same

 

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I no longer use my EVGA 500B but it's still with me.

It's never failed nor caused problems and it's been an excellent
power supply and doesn't make noise.

In my opinion it does the job but I am selling it because
I bought an EVGA GQ and upgraded my sistem.

so very contradictory here, he says his PSU is fine and then he says he has replaced it. He doesn't need 500W and there are better options for the price than the GQ series here so you can judge what he knws...

 

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I have an EVGA 450B too, it's not loud and I've never had a problem whatsoever.

P.D: Stop being so sell out

noise is subjective

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That's right. It's all about having a good no break or UPS that protects your PC from getting damage.

You shouldn't believe the PSU will do the whole trick for you,
considering the mediocre mains suply we have in your countries,
even the best PSU won't protect our computer.

 

 

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the 500B is not a bad power supply, it works and it'll be perfectly fine
when used addequately, I think he exaggerates way too much because he is
as paranoic as "gringos" (americans) when it comes to power supplies.

 

same user:

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Having a good installation is pretty important.

We can't be demanding like "gringos" because we can't 
afford the stuff they do have.
We need to look for the best we have

 

Bullshit, I simply said that there are better options for the price, here in mexico that thing costs almost $1000, for a similar price you can get at least 6 indy regulated units. Corsair CX, masterwatt, evga GD, BQ, B3, MWE etc

 

Another user:

 

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I know 8 year old PCs with crappy power supplys 
that are still holding up strong.
There's nothing worse than a bad electrical supply.
That will kill every single electronic, no matter how good it is.

 

The last one:

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I have the EVGA 450BT and it's not noisy and it's been working great.

Stop being sellout X2

 

 

 

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The 450BT is 500 mexican pesos with free shipping,
that's why I bought it, you can't do better at that
price point, and I was late to the game because a few years ago
there were 500B and 600B selling for around 600 mexican pesos.

 

 

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We recommended them for every single build until prices went up to like $1000

 

 

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Nobody gives a shit about group regulated or non group regulated, really.
nobody cares, at best they will look at a GOOD TIERED power supply
in case they have good hardware.

1

 

[Stefan Payne]

On 12/1/2018 at 4:34 PM, 17030644 said:

it's a spanish forum but anyway

Yeah, my Spanish guy also tells me about the woes of spanish Internet about PSU.

Many have less than no idea about PSU and what they even do...

And there is really no good analogy (that comes to mind), where one thing goes in and another thing comes out and a bad quality thing ruins everything...

 

But in one area they aren't wrong: A USV really helps with the reliability of modern PSU wich don't like Brownouts too much...

 

But the Rest just hurts, its so wrong on many levels.

They don't realize that there are differences in how the voltage is transformed and how well that works and so on...

[17030644]

On 12/2/2018 at 7:27 PM, Stefan Payne said:

Yeah, my Spanish guy also tells me about the woes of spanish Internet about PSU.

Many have less than no idea about PSU and what they even do...

And there is really no good analogy (that comes to mind), where one thing goes in and another thing comes out and a bad quality thing ruins everything...

 

But in one area they aren't wrong: A USV really helps with the reliability of modern PSU wich don't like Brownouts too much...

 

But the Rest just hurts, its so wrong on many levels.

They don't realize that there are differences in how the voltage is transformed and how well that works and so on...

Spanish guy