Intel CPU, or Ryzen CPU with new RAM

[TimidMage66]

Aiming for building a PC that I intend to only really play games on a 1440p, 144hz monitor, by using my existing GTX 1080.

I plan to run games at high settings in order to get more frames.

I wish to buy a new CPU, but still unsure whether to get Intel or Ryzen.

The issue with Intel is the 14nm shortage increasing prices to the point where in the UK a 2nd gen Ryzen 7 seems to be cheaper than a 9th gen I5 (just found out I could get a 9th gen i5 for cheaper than a Ryzen 7 on Scan.co.uk, apart from a discount I just saw at 23:05-23:06 in UK time). While it seems that Ryzen processors could be better value for money, I heard it works well with high speed RAM, and I only have 2133mhz (I think without overclocking) HyperX Fury sticks.

I'd say I would probably like somewhere in between an i5 8600k/9600k or a Ryzen 7 2700/2700x.

 

What do you people think is a better buy in my situation: just buy an i5 and try to overclock my RAM or buy a Ryzen 7 with faster RAM (let's assume 3200mhz)?

[Slottr]

Is this strictly for gaming? If so go with Intel and get a 87/9700k (whichevers cheaper)

[Princess Luna]

 

You could say the benefit in going i5 9600K other than the higher fps is it's capacity of having better 0.1% and better framerate, the steadier the framerate the smoother experience it is.

 

I don't think you should be thinking os the 2700X, either you truly save money with the Ryzen 5 2600 overclocked with stock cooler or you get the i5 9600k for full overclocking experience.

[Eastman51]

A Ryzen 5 2600/x can OC pretty well, so a Ryzen 7 isn't really necessary unless you need the extra cores.

The 2700 should be able to outperform the 8600k, so.

Zen+ is less dependant on RAM speed than gen 1 Ryzen, so you'd be fine; but you could see if you can OC your RAM a little bit.

 

[TimidMage66]

3 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

A Ryzen 5 2600/x can OC pretty well, so a Ryzen 7 isn't really necessary unless you need the extra cores.

The 2700 should be able to outperform the 8600k, so.

Zen+ is less dependant on RAM speed than gen 1 Ryzen, so you'd be fine; but you could see if you can OC your RAM a little bit.

 

Could I have an estimate on how much I can overclock my Ram, please?

[Eastman51]

9 minutes ago, TimidMage66 said:

Could I have an estimate on how much I can overclock my Ram, please?

I would think you could at least get to 2666MHz, 3000MHz if you're lucky. You'd just have to play around in the BIOS and see what you can do without crashing

 

[nick name]

1 hour ago, TimidMage66 said:

Could I have an estimate on how much I can overclock my Ram, please?

If you told us more about your current kit we might be able to give you an idea.  

[TimidMage66]

3 hours ago, nick name said:

If you told us more about your current kit we might be able to give you an idea.  

As in specs?

It's a planned setup, which means the desired components I already have is only a GTX 1080, 650 Watt PSU and possibly the 2133Mhz (16GB) RAM. I wish to replace my 1080p 60hz monitor with a 1440p 144hz monitor. I want to put the rest of the computer I currently have aside since I wish to replace the rest of the components, pretty much.

The rest of the desired specs are mainly a new processor and motherboard, as well as some new storage and case.

To be specfic about the RAM, it's two 8GB sticks of HyperX Fury DDR4, which I assume is clocked by default at 2133. The specific model number is HX421C14FBK2/16.

I have not made an attempt to overclock the RAM before, although I assume it's something to do with XMP.

[nick name]

8 hours ago, TimidMage66 said:

As in specs?

It's a planned setup, which means the desired components I already have is only a GTX 1080, 650 Watt PSU and possibly the 2133Mhz (16GB) RAM. I wish to replace my 1080p 60hz monitor with a 1440p 144hz monitor. I want to put the rest of the computer I currently have aside since I wish to replace the rest of the components, pretty much.

The rest of the desired specs are mainly a new processor and motherboard, as well as some new storage and case.

To be specfic about the RAM, it's two 8GB sticks of HyperX Fury DDR4, which I assume is clocked by default at 2133. The specific model number is HX421C14FBK2/16.

I have not made an attempt to overclock the RAM before, although I assume it's something to do with XMP.

Hmmm, I guess I would try 3200MHz at 1.35V and 16-18-18-18-38-58 timings and leave the rest on Auto to start off.  If that doesn't work out then try 2666MHz with that voltage and those timings.  That 3200MHz might be shooting for the moon, but it doesn't hurt to try.  

[TimidMage66]

4 hours ago, nick name said:

Hmmm, I guess I would try 3200MHz at 1.35V and 16-18-18-18-38-58 timings and leave the rest on Auto to start off.  If that doesn't work out then try 2666MHz with that voltage and those timings.  That 3200MHz might be shooting for the moon, but it doesn't hurt to try.  

Thanks. I guess I've got to learn more a out overclocking Ram though.