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SAPPHIRE RX 570 4GB Bottleneck

regim sarac
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Hi there, I'm writting this because I'm really concerned.

My pc stands in
MOBO ASUS A68HMK
AMD ATHLON X4 860K
4GB HYPERX FURY
620W Innertech PSU

I get in GTA V at max settings between 42-62 fps in the city. When I play League of legends I get only 100-120 fps. My question is why do I have so few frames comparing to this GPU. Is the GPU to blame? It's broken or I don't know, counterfeit? Or it's the RAMs? (GTA V is using 3,7GBs out of 3,7gbs available) or finally, the crappy CPU that I use is draggin my GPU back? What should I do? I really need help because I don't know stuff like this, I'm just worried because I expected quite more from RX 570.
All asnwers are welcomed. Thank you!

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You have a crap CPU, it's definitely holding you back

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

You have a crap CPU, it's definitely holding you back

thought, that much? I'm running it at 4.4 GHz.

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If the RAM is in 100% utilization, then of course it's bottlenecking you, the CPU may also hold you back, but upgrading the RAM will likely give you a better fps.

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3 minutes ago, regim sarac said:

thought, that much? I'm running it at 4.4 GHz.

It's a 4 year old AMD CPU, and an athlon no less. That frequency means nothing because the architecture is so old.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, fasauceome said:

It's a 4 year old AMD CPU, and an athlon no less. That frequency means nothing because the architecture is so old.

AKA the frequency means nothing unless the ipc is good.

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2 minutes ago, R U CRAZY said:

AKA the frequency means nothing unless the ipc is good.

 

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It's a 4 year old AMD CPU, and an athlon no less. That frequency means nothing because the architecture is so old.

Is ryzen 3 1300x a decent replacement for my actual cpu?

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Just now, regim sarac said:

 

Is ryzen 3 1300x a decent replacement for my actual cpu?

Yes, however a 1400 or 1500X may be cheaper if you're in the US for example.

Main PC:  MacBook Air (M1, 2020), 8GB of RAM, 256GB of storage; running macOS, but waiting for Linux to be ported to the M1

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Just now, regim sarac said:

 

Is ryzen 3 1300x a decent replacement for my actual cpu?

Yeah as long as you give it a good platform. I recommend a B350 board, if you cheap out and get an A320 board you lose a lot of features and sometimes even performance due to how cheap they are. Also, get some DDR4 2666 or better because Ryzen loves fast, dual channel ram.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Yeah as long as you give it a good platform. I recommend a B350 board, if you cheap out and get an A320 board you lose a lot of features and sometimes even performance due to how cheap they are. Also, get some DDR4 2666 or better because Ryzen loves fast, dual channel ram.

 

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Yes, however a 1400 or 1500X may be cheaper if you're in the US for example. 

thanks guys for helping me figuring this out

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Yeah as long as you give it a good platform. I recommend a B350 board, if you cheap out and get an A320 board you lose a lot of features and sometimes even performance due to how cheap they are. Also, get some DDR4 2666 or better because Ryzen loves fast, dual channel ram.

I agree, however he should not cheap out on the quality of the mobo (so no GIGABYTE boards as the Ryzen ones are pretty trash, no MSI B350 and X370s, ASUS and ASRock are pretty good and MSI is meh in motherboard quality at the B450 and X470 boards)

Main PC:  MacBook Air (M1, 2020), 8GB of RAM, 256GB of storage; running macOS, but waiting for Linux to be ported to the M1

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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I agree, however he should not cheap out on the quality of the mobo (so no GIGABYTE boards as the Ryzen ones are pretty trash, no MSI B350 and X370s, ASUS and ASRock are pretty good and MSI is meh in motherboard quality at the B450 and X470 boards)

the MSI B350 and B450 Tomahawks are exceptions to that rule AFAIK, same with the top end Gigabyte X470s and a B450 or two, they're very nice boards with great VRMs and such. 

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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I agree, however he should not cheap out on the quality of the mobo (so no GIGABYTE boards as the Ryzen ones are pretty trash, no MSI B350 and X370s, ASUS and ASRock are pretty good and MSI is meh in motherboard quality at the B450 and X470 boards)

MSI makes tolerable boards, but they're priced too high. However, I've used a few AM4 gigabyte boards and they're pretty great, so I can't say they're a brand to avoid.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

the MSI B350 and B450 Tomahawks are exceptions to that rule AFAIK, same with the top end Gigabyte X470s and a B450 or two, they're very nice boards with great VRMs and such. 

As someone who has the B450M Mortar (Literally a sized down version of the Tomahawk) it's meh

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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

As someone who has the B450M Mortar (Literally a sized down version of the Tomahawk) it's meh

I think "meh" is alright for OP's price point, I'm getting a sense of the budget based on the current parts.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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If you are switching to Ryzen, memory speeds are important as is dual channel.  You don't want to be running single channel. 

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