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ZEN2 will have Double the L3!

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Source: Techpowerup

Source2: WCCFTech

 

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An entry for an upcoming ROME processor featuring the company’s Zen 2 core has popped up and it revealed that the 64 core chip actually features a whopping 256MB of L3 cache. That’s 16 MB per CCX, double that of the previous generation.

 

Here's a full list of what's been released so far:

 

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  • Improved Execution Pipeline
  • Doubled Floating Point (256-bit) and Load/Store (Doubled Bandwidth)
  • Doubled Core Density
  • Half the Energy Per Operation
  • Improved Branch Prediction
  • Better Instruction Pre-Fetching
  • Re-Optimized Instruction Cache
  • Larger Op Cache
  • Increased Dispatch / Retire Bandwidth
  • Maintaining High Throughput for All Modes

 

This will definitely help Zen's IPC and give it a big lift.

 

If you wanna know what Intel's been up to lately, check out my other news post:

 

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All I care is whether Zen 2 allows Infinity Fabric overclocking to be separate from memory frequency, so I can stop using high frequency sticks on budget non-APU Ryzen builds.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

All I care is whether Zen 2 allows Infinity Fabric overclocking to be separate from memory frequency, so I can stop using high frequency sticks on budget non-APU Ryzen builds.

When can we get CPUs with 4GB of HBM2 attached as a sort of L4 cache?

 

TR4 certainly has the physical space.

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So within the next 6 years we will have over 1Gb of cache on CPUs....

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7 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

So within the next 6 years we will have over 1Gb of cache on CPUs....

I was just about to say: when will we get the first 1 GB of L3 cache CPU :D

 

also inb4 someone complains about 1 Gb being 125 MB and this cpu having 256 MB

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inb4 having so much cpu cache that you can use it as a type of "ramdisk"

 

and have speeds north of 1TB per second. because why not.

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But it's not Intel's SmartCache 'D:

 

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Intel and AMD have swapped roles.  AMD is the innovator, and Intel is the one sitting on their ass, milking the same architecture(s) for years and years.

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3 minutes ago, Techstorm970 said:

milking the same architecture(s) for years and years.

Now now, the i3 8121U may be just be a prototype to test the mass production facilities on 10nm and is not ready by all means as they couldn't even make its iGPU work but the architecture gains are real.

 

The only Intel 10nm CPU in the market features 2 cores / 4 threads at 3.0ghz all cores boost with a tiny TDP of 15w, it performs like an i7 6500U which was a flagship 2 cores / 4 threads mobile CPU not so long ago featuring 28w TDP using only Half the same amount of power.

 

So it performs strong with an amazing efficiency... one day.... one day it'll be here.

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5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now now, the i3 8121U may be just be a prototype to test the mass production facilities on 10nm and is not ready by all means as they couldn't even make its iGPU work but the architecture gains are real.

 

The only Intel 10nm CPU in the market features 2 cores / 4 threads at 3.0ghz all cores boost with a tiny TDP of 15w, it performs like an i7 6500U which was a flagship 2 cores / 4 threads mobile CPU not so long ago featuring 28w TDP using only Half the same amount of power.

 

So it performs strong with an amazing efficiency... one day.... one day it'll be here.

That's pretty rad.  Didn't know they had released a 10nm CPU already.  The efficiency boost alone will be huge.  I guess they are still innovating; hell, the increase in efficiency from Kaby Lake to Coffee Lake was pretty impressive given that they both have the 14nm process.

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

they couldn't even make its iGPU work

If this is the only reason they're struggling with 10nm, then Imma be SUPER pissed!

 

Having said that, no wonder NVIDIA and AMD are skipping over 10nm with GPUs!  No wonder Intel stole Raja!  10nm must be an engineering nightmare for graphics processing.  Would certainly explain a lot...

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7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now now, the i3 8121U may be just be a prototype to test the mass production facilities on 10nm and is not ready by all means as they couldn't even make its iGPU work but the architecture gains are real.

 

The only Intel 10nm CPU in the market features 2 cores / 4 threads at 3.0ghz all cores boost with a tiny TDP of 15w, it performs like an i7 6500U which was a flagship 2 cores / 4 threads mobile CPU not so long ago featuring 28w TDP using only Half the same amount of power.

 

So it performs strong with an amazing efficiency... one day.... one day it'll be here.

The U series have always been shitty i3 re-brands until kaby lake r, they were just slightly upclocked for the "flagship". Also the 6500u only used 15w to achieve its 3ghz across both cores and it did this WITH the igpu enabled. U series chips don't even sustain their max clockspeed without undervolting so it's kind of a useless metric to compare max turbo clocks. 

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*crosses fingers for LGA*

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8 minutes ago, dizmo said:

*crosses fingers for LGA*

I'm pretty sure it'll still be on AM4. Maybe next time...

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7 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

I'm pretty sure it'll still be on AM4. Maybe next time...

Then it'll be an Intel upgrade for me lol

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Then it'll be an Intel upgrade for me lol

Why is LGA of importance to you?

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4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Then it'll be an Intel upgrade for me lol

Well that's just silly. I hate PGA too, but it's no deal breaker...

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So this was discovered through one of their code-name ROME EPYC chips? Does this mean every Zen 2 chip will have have double the L3 cache or that the potential/technology is there? I'm sorry it is a noob question.

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20 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Why is LGA of importance to you?

I hate PGA chips. Harder to get out of the socket, greater chance of damage when inserting it into the socket.

It's a small gripe, but when one has one and the other doesn't and performance is similar, it's one of the things that will make me sway the other way.

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1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

Now now, the i3 8121U may be just be a prototype to test the mass production facilities on 10nm and is not ready by all means as they couldn't even make its iGPU work but the architecture gains are real.

 

The only Intel 10nm CPU in the market features 2 cores / 4 threads at 3.0ghz all cores boost with a tiny TDP of 15w, it performs like an i7 6500U which was a flagship 2 cores / 4 threads mobile CPU not so long ago featuring 28w TDP using only Half the same amount of power.

 

So it performs strong with an amazing efficiency... one day.... one day it'll be here.

No, the 6500U was a 15w CPU. They've managed to provide the same performance at the same power which is encouraging considering Intel stated their 1st gen 10nm isn't meant to be as good as 14nm+ or even 14nm++

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21 minutes ago, ZacoAttaco said:

So this was discovered through one of their code-name ROME EPYC chips? Does this mean every Zen 2 chip will have have double the L3 cache or that the potential/technology is there? I'm sorry it is a noob question.

We don't know for sure yet if they will reuse the same chiplets in what will probably be mainstream Ryzen 3000 series. If they do, then those L3 cache amounts are there. Cache per core will depend on how they decide to chop it up.

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3 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Does this mean their small chips will also have 4MB L3 per core?

 

59 minutes ago, ZacoAttaco said:

Does this mean every Zen 2 chip will have have double the L3 cache or that the potential/technology is there? I'm sorry it is a noob question.

 

My guess would be no. They are increasing the L3 mainly for the extremely large core count cpus because that's where the infinity fabric is running into latency issues. A positive side effect is that higher L3 gives an overall better IPC as well.

This might trickle down to Threadripper where the 32core model (2990WX I believe) is already stressing infinity fabric more than they'd like.

The standard consumer Ryzen might see an upgrade in L3 cache as well but certainly not as big.

Then again, I'm only making assumptions here from what I've read so far but it seems to be the most logical scenario for me. 

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