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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
    FYI gang - please don't respond in this thread - we are trying to keep it neat. If you want to thank or congratulate us, please like the various or appropriate posts
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
    Some more updates and clean up.
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
    Bunch of updates tonight - PM myself of Ghost if you think anything should be added.
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
    Maintenance
     
    7.1 Draining your loop
     
    There are three main ways to "drain" the loop; get rid of the coolant.
    Get a manifold. This is a cube with G1/4 threads on all sides. It has 4 blanking plugs. While in use the water would flow directly through it. When you want to empty your loop just unscrew one of the sides. and water can pour out. You can attach a valve if you want a "cleaner" way to do it. This is the only method that will work with acrylic tubing. Get a no spill quick disconnect. These cost around £10-20 for the complete set and click into each other. You can cleanly separate the loop. You can split a tube in half with almost no water spillage. These add some restriction to the loop but now-a-days have been improved a lot so this restriction is minimized. The free solution. Most of the time when you change your coolant you need to change your tubing too. So just grab a scalpel or sharp knife and cut through the tube and put both ends in a basin. There will be some splash but if you are quick its a good way to drain your loop. Timing - When to drain...
     
    Depends a lot on your situation - coolant used, tubing, average heat of system, lots or no direct sunlight, etc. On "average" I would say once a year. If just using distilled water and a kill coil and system runs relatively cool - can probably easily go a year and a half. Running a heavy pre-mix coolant with UV addiitve? May want to clean things out every 6-9 months as you can get some buildup in your blocks from different UV additives. This is still highly subjective. But if you notice your system running warm, clouding of the coolant or other things in the liquid, it may be time to drain.
     
    Cleaning
     
    Very important step, esp if you are changing coolant colors. You need to make sure you clean your blocks properly. Most of the time blocks can be disassembled to get into them and clean them out. Pay attention though as most have rubber gasket/seals that need to go back on correctly in order to make a leak proof seal. Some blocks may have build up in them, a soft bristle tooth brush can be used. Some recommend a some amount of vinegar in the water, ketchup or other things to help. I just recommend distilled water. Anything else use to clean will in turn need to be thoroughly flushed out before filling your loop.
    Also, make sure you flush those rads. Fill them up with some water and move the water all about, tipping and twisting the rad. A vigorous shake can help. You may need to do this many times until the water coming out is the same as the water that went in.
     
    Another option if to have a pump and hook things up, say near the sink. Typically this has the pump pulling fluid from a bowl that easy to fill. You attach each component to the pump and use that to flush them. Very effective, but a bit of a pain to setup.
     
    Tubing, should it be replaced?
     
    In almost all cases I will say yes. The ends of the tubing get stretched after use in fittings or on barbs and if reconnected, won't be as tight, leading to possible seals. If you drained your loop due to things being cloudy, quite possibly this was because your tubing was starting to break down. General rule of thumb, after a drain, replace the old with the new. 
     
    The only time I will re-use a piece of tubing is if I can really tell it is still in excellent shape and I can use it in a shorter run then before, allowing me to trim both ends off and get rid of the stretched sections from the previous hook up.
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
    Extra's

    Q: Loop order

    A: People often wonder if loop order is important in the design and layout. Not really is the simple answer. A water cooling loop is exactly that, a closed loop. Water is being pushed and pulled and once your system is up and running, the temperature difference at any one point may be only a degree or two. The only general recommendation is to mount things so the reservoir outlet feeds the inlet of the pump. This prevents the pump from running dry and also helps to collect air during the priming and stop it from being recirculated (just ensure the outlet is mounted higher the the pump inlet).

    Q: Dual Loop?

    A: In almost every case, no. Having two dedicated loops that are completely segregated not only requires a pump for each, they also lack the overall cooling potential of the total radiators being implemented. If you were to comprise two setups- one single loop, one dual loop, and use the exact same watercooling hardware, you'd find that the single loop (even if using both pumps) would cool better due to the combined dissipation potential of the radiators from the dual loop setup. You would be able to take advantage of the extra radiator space from the dual loop's CPU loop to help cool the GPUs when running a single, overall loop.

    Q: Fan Controller

    A: Lot of people plan to use fan controllers in their builds. The idea is to run fans at low speed when idling or not doing much and to ramp them up when load/temps require them.

    I (Whaler_99) recommend against planning on this. Get good quality fans and set them and forget them. One of the issues that has come up is that a large number of fan controllers use a type of pulse modulation or on/off signalling for controlling the voltage. In other words, the voltage is not constant. This can introduce some horrible motor whine in some fan motors which can only be fixed by running the controller full out - 12v. If you are planning on using a set model of fans and a controller - test prior to buying a whole bunch of fans. I typically undervolt my fans off direct connection from the PSU. This gives me the most constant power to the fans.

    Q: More Reading

    A: Here are some site that can give you a lot more info.

    http://skinneelabs.com - Skinnee Labs - one of the top sites on the web for info and test results.
    http://martinsliquidlab.org - Updated new site - one of the main resources on the web.
    http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com - Martin's Liquid Labs - no longer update since 08 - but a lot of good info there.
    http://www.coolingconfigurator.com - The EK Cooling Config site. One of the best to see if your GPU has a compatible water block.

    Q: Linus's Test Results with various AiO's

    A: Linus and crew have recently been testing various AiO units with the standardized test bench. Here is the link to the spreadsheet that they update.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlPSGh26Ne0XdHZweHoxckRqazBvM0RTMW5GSFZNRmc#gid=0
     
    Q: Where to buy
     
    Aquatuning sell in:

     
    Please go to http://www.aquatuning.us/ and select the appropriate site.
     
    Please bear in mind that most retailers will ship to nearby countries.
     
    If you see a retailer missing please message/tweet "Ghost".
     
    In Canada:
    http://www.ncix.com
    http://www.dazmode.com/
     
    In US: 
    Performance PC
    Sidewinders
    Xoxide
    AquaTuning US
    Frozen CPU - Closed
    Jab-Tech - Closed Down
     
    In UK:
    http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk
    http://www.candccentral.co.uk
    http://www.e22.biz/
    (Unfortunately Specialtech.co.uk has gone through voluntary liquidation)
     
    In Germany:
    http://caseking.de
      In Spain:
    http://www.ibercool.com/en/
     
    In Sweden:
    http://www.coolingstuff.se/.
    http://www.inet.se/
     
    In Denmark: coolerkit.dk  
    In Australia:
    http://pccasegear.com/
    http://www.thekoolroom.com/
    http://www.gammods.com.au
     
    In Asia:
    http://store.apes.my...hk=1&Itemid=262
     
     
    Some Extra Links
     
    Thanks to @airdeano for this post, some intro to water cooling videos from Mod Zoo and MNPCTech
    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/180691-recent-how-to-water-cool-videos/

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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from DoTr in Watercooling FAQ - Some Basic Q&A   
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Parideboy in GPU Folding Facts and Fiction - Configuration and Settings   
    With the new Cores and the release of new GPUs, there is a lot of information floating around from various sources. Not, if any, is official unfortunately. So, in this thread I am going to post some info I have found to be pretty trustworthy as well as results I know from my own tests.
     
    I invite other users to post their findings. NOTE!! Do not simply post PPD results and the like. This thread is for posting config examples that you know to work based on your testing. Yes, testing, meaning you have multiple systems, GPUs, whatever, to back up your claims. Or you have read, post links if possible, trusted sources.
     
    This will hopefully allow you, the average user, who might be considering some GPU upgrades, to get some information that may pertain to your environment. Also, NOTE, all this info is very subjective to the testers environment and settings. Mileage will always vary. Most of this directly effects multi GPU configs. 
     
    General Information
    Unfortunately most of the info you see on the Stanford site is out of date. Much of the information is from 2013 when the new website was launched and has not been updated much. So, when reading things there, take it with a grain of salt. There have been a lot of upgrades and changes over the past two years.
     
    Supported GPUs
    There is a file, called the GPU White-list, that contains a listing of all supported GPUs. This does NOT mean that because your GPU is in there, it is supported. This list is updated with new cards but never has old cards removed.
     
    As per the Folding Forum, the somewhat official information source, here are the currently supported cards:
     
    Officially Supported GPUs
    AMD -> HD 5000 Series or higher
    Nvidia -> GTX 400 Series (Fermi) or higher
     
    That was from 2013. I think the minimum's supported have now gone up, but I am not positive. 
     
    Also the equivalent Quadro, FireGL and such cards are also supported.
     
    The dedicated GPU compute cards, NVidia Tesla, Intel Phy and others, are not supported.
     
    PCIe Slots
    You can use PCIe x1 size through x16 sized slots for folding with GPUs. There are various types of expanders that allow your x16 card to plug into a x1, for instance, slot. Also, v1 through v3 of the PCI Express specifications is also supported. Now, here is where is gets complicated. Different Cores and Projects need differing amounts of bandwidth. 
     
    In my testing, and some others, about two years ago, we found no PPD decrease when using x1 slots versus x16 slots (PCIe v2). Back then though Core17 was just coming out and there was no Core18. This has changed somewhat. If you get Core15 and some Core17 assignments, this still won't make a difference. But, on Core18 it can. Some have seen up to a 20% drop on PDD when going from x16 to x4 slots. At this point though, v2 or v3 slots don't seem to make much of an impact. So, where does this leave you?
     
    If planning to make a multi GPU folding system, try and get/use as many x16 slots as possible. You can use x4 and x1 with the use of expanders, but depending on the work you get assigned, you might notice some PPD decline now on those cards.
     
    CPU Impact
    This is primarily a NVidia issue, mostly attributed to NVidia drivers. So, the rule of thumb when folding with a NVidia GPU and CPU folding, is to leave one core free per GPU to maximize your GPU Folding performance. In the case of AMD, it is simply recommended to leave a single core free for one or more cards as the impact isn't as great.
     
    So, what is going on? Well, it turns out when Folding on NVidia there seems to be a lot of polling. If you watch the CPU, yes, you can see it pegged pretty high, but if you look at something like the heat output, it actually isn't generating much. The CPU isn't actually working that hard, just being consumed with polling queries. Apparently not having the core free can greatly increase processing time, which in turn affects the QRB bonus. But, the CPU isn't actually doing a whole heck of a lot. The GPU is still doing all the work, just there seems to be this polling mechanism for some reason. 
     
    SLI and Crossfire
    If you have two cards with either of these enabled, no fear. There is minimal impact on Folding from having these technologies set.
     

     
    Hopefully some of you find this useful and as mentioned, feel free to add your findings. 
     
    Just remember, I will remove posts not on topic and specifically containing config info.
     

     
    Update October 2015
     
    Drivers
    As many have seen, sometimes updating to the latest version, especially when folding, is not always the best thing. One of the more current versions for NVidia is simply crushing folding. If you are on a version and everything is running tip top, pay close attention to what those new updated version are doing. 98% of the time, you don't need them as they have zero performance gain for most things. What they are doing is adding specific support for games, fixes, etc. If you don't play those games, then you don't need the update.
    Just pay attention before updating drivers and be prepared to roll back if things don't go something and wait for the next round.
     
    Minimum Support Cards
    Officially Supported GPUs
    AMD -> HD 5000 Series or higher
    Nvidia -> GTX 400 Series (Fermi) or higher
     
    Looks like they has been tweaked a bit, nothing official, but looks like these are now the minimum needed to get most WU's completed:
    AMD -> 6000 series or higher
    NVidia -> GTX 620 or higher
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from sub68 in LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19   
    Nice to see this going on and the community pulling together. I've been reading up and looks the folks are working on bringing more WU's into the system as well as more back end architecture to support the surge!
     
    Congrats and thanks to all for working and donating!
     
    Cheers and love to all!
    Whaler
     
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from rattacko123 in Folding@Home Install Guide and Links - LinusTechTips_Team - 223518   
    You can help scientists studying Alzheimer's, Huntington's, and many cancers by simply running a piece of software on your computer.


    Join others around the world to form the world's largest distributed supercomputer.

    Here is link to download the software....
    http://folding.stanford.edu/
     
    Here is a link to the Installation Guides for various OSes:
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/
    And for the direct link to the Windows Install Guide:
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/windows/
     
    Link for the Passkey...
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py
    You need that for bonus points. After you have complete 10 Work Units on the CPU slot, you will then get extra PPD point.
     
    HOW do I get one of those fancy Badges?? Check here:
    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/207857-for-folding-users-tips-tricks-and-faq-updated-aug-2014/
     
    Done by our own @Xsilent(X)
    Folding@home Installation guide! Linux distros and server.
    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/51633-foldinghome-installation-guide-linux-distros-and-server/#entry689950
     
    Remember, during the install, use our Team Number for proper points crediting - 223518

    Team links:
    Official Folding@Home Site:
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=223518
     
    ExtremeOverclocking Stats
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=223518
     
    The DC-Vault link (combines scores from various teams to a global one)
    http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=547
     
    The official forum: http://foldingforum.org/
     
    The official News blog: http://folding.stanford.edu/home/blog - A blog all about Folding@home, from its Director, Prof. Vijay Pande
     
     
    Link to my 4P Folding build logs/guide - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/15102-whalers-4p-folders-build-log-32-cores-and-24-cores/
     
    Link to my Multi GPU Folding build guide - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/12541-whalers-gpu-folder-build-log-folding3/
     
    MORE Stats and Links
     
    Stanford Client Stats
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats2
     
    Want to look up a Project Description?
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject.overusingIPswillbebanned
     
    Folding @ Home Projects Summary - Pretty neat.
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/new/psummary.html
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from warmon6 in LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19   
    Nice to see this going on and the community pulling together. I've been reading up and looks the folks are working on bringing more WU's into the system as well as more back end architecture to support the surge!
     
    Congrats and thanks to all for working and donating!
     
    Cheers and love to all!
    Whaler
     
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from warmon6 in Folding@Home Install Guide and Links - LinusTechTips_Team - 223518   
    You can help scientists studying Alzheimer's, Huntington's, and many cancers by simply running a piece of software on your computer.


    Join others around the world to form the world's largest distributed supercomputer.

    Here is link to download the software....
    http://folding.stanford.edu/
     
    Here is a link to the Installation Guides for various OSes:
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/
    And for the direct link to the Windows Install Guide:
    https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/windows/
     
    Link for the Passkey...
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py
    You need that for bonus points. After you have complete 10 Work Units on the CPU slot, you will then get extra PPD point.
     
    HOW do I get one of those fancy Badges?? Check here:
    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/207857-for-folding-users-tips-tricks-and-faq-updated-aug-2014/
     
    Done by our own @Xsilent(X)
    Folding@home Installation guide! Linux distros and server.
    http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/51633-foldinghome-installation-guide-linux-distros-and-server/#entry689950
     
    Remember, during the install, use our Team Number for proper points crediting - 223518

    Team links:
    Official Folding@Home Site:
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=223518
     
    ExtremeOverclocking Stats
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=223518
     
    The DC-Vault link (combines scores from various teams to a global one)
    http://www.dc-vault.com/showteam.php?team=547
     
    The official forum: http://foldingforum.org/
     
    The official News blog: http://folding.stanford.edu/home/blog - A blog all about Folding@home, from its Director, Prof. Vijay Pande
     
     
    Link to my 4P Folding build logs/guide - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/15102-whalers-4p-folders-build-log-32-cores-and-24-cores/
     
    Link to my Multi GPU Folding build guide - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/12541-whalers-gpu-folder-build-log-folding3/
     
    MORE Stats and Links
     
    Stanford Client Stats
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats2
     
    Want to look up a Project Description?
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject.overusingIPswillbebanned
     
    Folding @ Home Projects Summary - Pretty neat.
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/new/psummary.html
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Techstorm970 in POSTING GUIDELINES - Please Read!   
    These are the specific guidelines all users must follow when posting in the Off-Topic thread. They are subject to change/update at any time.
     
    1 - First of all, ALL the items of the Community Standards apply to the Off-Topic section.
     
    2 - The Off-Topic section is NOT for junk posts, SPAM, trolling and just any old thing.
     
    3 - The Off-Topic section IS for productive threads that may not fall into one of the already laid out sections of the forum. At all times though, this is a tech centered and focused forum.
     
    Any posts which are deemed by the mod staff to not meet the rules outlined in the Community Standards or these guidelines might be locked or deleted without warning. If you are found to have violated the core values of the Community Standards via a topic and/or post (attacking another member, vulgar language, racism, etc,) warning points will be assigned.
     
    At all time when posting, remember these few key items from the Community Standards :
    "Don't be a dick" - Wil Wheaton. "Be excellent to each other" - Bill and Ted. Remember your audience; both present and future. No excessive/excessively off-topic threads or posts. No posting nonsensical messages. No "Flooding" the forum with similar meaning messages. The posting solely of memes or similar images without contributing to the discussion, memes can be funny and applicable but if it is completely unrelated it is spam. Do not create threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums. Do not cause disturbances in forum threads such as picking fights or insulting other members. Do not make non-constructive posts for the purpose of causing unrest.  This includes posting LMGTFY links. No replying to a thread simply to call the author a troll (regardless of whether the post is actually trolling) We are working to make this a productive and positive environment for all and the Off-Topic section must maintain these standards.
     
    Thank you all for your contributions to the LTT forum!
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in POSTING GUIDELINES - Please Read!   
    These are the specific guidelines all users must follow when posting in the Off-Topic thread. They are subject to change/update at any time.
     
    1 - First of all, ALL the items of the Community Standards apply to the Off-Topic section.
     
    2 - The Off-Topic section is NOT for junk posts, SPAM, trolling and just any old thing.
     
    3 - The Off-Topic section IS for productive threads that may not fall into one of the already laid out sections of the forum. At all times though, this is a tech centered and focused forum.
     
    Any posts which are deemed by the mod staff to not meet the rules outlined in the Community Standards or these guidelines might be locked or deleted without warning. If you are found to have violated the core values of the Community Standards via a topic and/or post (attacking another member, vulgar language, racism, etc,) warning points will be assigned.
     
    At all time when posting, remember these few key items from the Community Standards :
    "Don't be a dick" - Wil Wheaton. "Be excellent to each other" - Bill and Ted. Remember your audience; both present and future. No excessive/excessively off-topic threads or posts. No posting nonsensical messages. No "Flooding" the forum with similar meaning messages. The posting solely of memes or similar images without contributing to the discussion, memes can be funny and applicable but if it is completely unrelated it is spam. Do not create threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums. Do not cause disturbances in forum threads such as picking fights or insulting other members. Do not make non-constructive posts for the purpose of causing unrest.  This includes posting LMGTFY links. No replying to a thread simply to call the author a troll (regardless of whether the post is actually trolling) We are working to make this a productive and positive environment for all and the Off-Topic section must maintain these standards.
     
    Thank you all for your contributions to the LTT forum!
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from CircleTech in LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19   
    Nice to see this going on and the community pulling together. I've been reading up and looks the folks are working on bringing more WU's into the system as well as more back end architecture to support the surge!
     
    Congrats and thanks to all for working and donating!
     
    Cheers and love to all!
    Whaler
     
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from aselwyn1 in LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19   
    Nice to see this going on and the community pulling together. I've been reading up and looks the folks are working on bringing more WU's into the system as well as more back end architecture to support the surge!
     
    Congrats and thanks to all for working and donating!
     
    Cheers and love to all!
    Whaler
     
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in GPU Folding Facts and Fiction - Configuration and Settings   
    With the new Cores and the release of new GPUs, there is a lot of information floating around from various sources. Not, if any, is official unfortunately. So, in this thread I am going to post some info I have found to be pretty trustworthy as well as results I know from my own tests.
     
    I invite other users to post their findings. NOTE!! Do not simply post PPD results and the like. This thread is for posting config examples that you know to work based on your testing. Yes, testing, meaning you have multiple systems, GPUs, whatever, to back up your claims. Or you have read, post links if possible, trusted sources.
     
    This will hopefully allow you, the average user, who might be considering some GPU upgrades, to get some information that may pertain to your environment. Also, NOTE, all this info is very subjective to the testers environment and settings. Mileage will always vary. Most of this directly effects multi GPU configs. 
     
    General Information
    Unfortunately most of the info you see on the Stanford site is out of date. Much of the information is from 2013 when the new website was launched and has not been updated much. So, when reading things there, take it with a grain of salt. There have been a lot of upgrades and changes over the past two years.
     
    Supported GPUs
    There is a file, called the GPU White-list, that contains a listing of all supported GPUs. This does NOT mean that because your GPU is in there, it is supported. This list is updated with new cards but never has old cards removed.
     
    As per the Folding Forum, the somewhat official information source, here are the currently supported cards:
     
    Officially Supported GPUs
    AMD -> HD 5000 Series or higher
    Nvidia -> GTX 400 Series (Fermi) or higher
     
    That was from 2013. I think the minimum's supported have now gone up, but I am not positive. 
     
    Also the equivalent Quadro, FireGL and such cards are also supported.
     
    The dedicated GPU compute cards, NVidia Tesla, Intel Phy and others, are not supported.
     
    PCIe Slots
    You can use PCIe x1 size through x16 sized slots for folding with GPUs. There are various types of expanders that allow your x16 card to plug into a x1, for instance, slot. Also, v1 through v3 of the PCI Express specifications is also supported. Now, here is where is gets complicated. Different Cores and Projects need differing amounts of bandwidth. 
     
    In my testing, and some others, about two years ago, we found no PPD decrease when using x1 slots versus x16 slots (PCIe v2). Back then though Core17 was just coming out and there was no Core18. This has changed somewhat. If you get Core15 and some Core17 assignments, this still won't make a difference. But, on Core18 it can. Some have seen up to a 20% drop on PDD when going from x16 to x4 slots. At this point though, v2 or v3 slots don't seem to make much of an impact. So, where does this leave you?
     
    If planning to make a multi GPU folding system, try and get/use as many x16 slots as possible. You can use x4 and x1 with the use of expanders, but depending on the work you get assigned, you might notice some PPD decline now on those cards.
     
    CPU Impact
    This is primarily a NVidia issue, mostly attributed to NVidia drivers. So, the rule of thumb when folding with a NVidia GPU and CPU folding, is to leave one core free per GPU to maximize your GPU Folding performance. In the case of AMD, it is simply recommended to leave a single core free for one or more cards as the impact isn't as great.
     
    So, what is going on? Well, it turns out when Folding on NVidia there seems to be a lot of polling. If you watch the CPU, yes, you can see it pegged pretty high, but if you look at something like the heat output, it actually isn't generating much. The CPU isn't actually working that hard, just being consumed with polling queries. Apparently not having the core free can greatly increase processing time, which in turn affects the QRB bonus. But, the CPU isn't actually doing a whole heck of a lot. The GPU is still doing all the work, just there seems to be this polling mechanism for some reason. 
     
    SLI and Crossfire
    If you have two cards with either of these enabled, no fear. There is minimal impact on Folding from having these technologies set.
     

     
    Hopefully some of you find this useful and as mentioned, feel free to add your findings. 
     
    Just remember, I will remove posts not on topic and specifically containing config info.
     

     
    Update October 2015
     
    Drivers
    As many have seen, sometimes updating to the latest version, especially when folding, is not always the best thing. One of the more current versions for NVidia is simply crushing folding. If you are on a version and everything is running tip top, pay close attention to what those new updated version are doing. 98% of the time, you don't need them as they have zero performance gain for most things. What they are doing is adding specific support for games, fixes, etc. If you don't play those games, then you don't need the update.
    Just pay attention before updating drivers and be prepared to roll back if things don't go something and wait for the next round.
     
    Minimum Support Cards
    Officially Supported GPUs
    AMD -> HD 5000 Series or higher
    Nvidia -> GTX 400 Series (Fermi) or higher
     
    Looks like they has been tweaked a bit, nothing official, but looks like these are now the minimum needed to get most WU's completed:
    AMD -> 6000 series or higher
    NVidia -> GTX 620 or higher
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from Eschew in For Folding Users - Tips, Tricks and FAQ - Updated July 2016   
    You cannot post questions in this thread. Create a new thread for questions, troubleshooting, etc.. Simply posting in here more common and general FAQ'a and Q&A's for the benefit of the team.
     
     
    Two main points to remember, first remember to enter in the TEAM ID of 223518 and second, get your passkey for the bonus points.
     
     
    Have a missed something you think should be included? PM me and we can work on getting it added. Always looking to increase the knowledge base.
     
     
    What is folding?
    Folding is a worldwide distributed computing effort conducted by Stanford University to understand how proteins assemble themselves. The real world applications of this research includes potential cures for diseases such as Alzheimer's, cancer, and Parkinson's. Nearly everyone's life has been touched by someone who has had one of these diseases or one of the many other diseases this research is aiming to cure.
    Why should I fold? What's in it for me?
    Just the knowledge that you're contributing to a very good cause. We do this because we can, because we have the computing power to offer. From a purely fun perspective, as you fold you are awarded points. These points help generate some competition and fun between members and other teams.
     
    I don't a high powered folding gear. Is it worth it?
    Absolutely! All to often you will see one of the regulars answering this questions with a "EVERY little bit helps". With the various client types, pretty much any system can help to contribute to the cause.
     
    What does it cost?
    The software is free, and there are no fees of any kind for participating in folding. If you fold 24/7 and/or have several computers folding, you will likely notice a increase in your electric bill.
     
     
     
     
    Badges
     
    CPU Folding
     
     
    Folding on Maxwell Cards
     
     
    Chome / NACL Folding
     
     
    Flag settings
     
     
    What are Cores?
     
     
    Quick Return Bonus points
     
     
    Which is the best brand GPU?
     
     
    What is the slider...
     
     
    Is Folding safe for my gear?
     
     
    The Folding Advanced View overview
     
     
    GPU Folding
     

    AMD GPU issues
     
     
    Overclocking
     
     
    Slot sitting at 99%
     
     
    Troubleshoot "no connection"
     
     
    Trouble shooting, error codes
     
     
    Abbreviations
     
     
    Will Folding work on my Phi or Tesla cards?
     
     
    Remotely managing clients
     
     
    Monitoring clients via HFM.net
     
     
    Monitoring clients with FAH Client
     
     
     
    CPU utilization High
     
     
    How to remove a work unit
     
     
    Dedicate GPU Folder
     
     
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    Whaler_99 got a reaction from danielocdh in Set folding to upload completed WU before downloading new one   
    In the Advanced view, you can set and option for your GPU and CPU - where the value is the percentage you want complete - so set it at 100. Try that. The default is around 98/99 so you can end up in fact download a WU while completing one, and then be trying to upload the completed one at the same time.
     
    next-unit-percentage
       
    Next Unit Percentagev6: not applicable
    V7: next-unit-percentage     XX
    Sets the work unit percentage completed as to when the V7 client downloads the next Work Unit (WU) while the current WU is processing, where XX is between 90-100%.  98% is the default setting.
    v6 and previous clients would finish a Work Unit (WU), upload it to the Work Server, then download a new WU, and begin processing. One of the best new features in the V7 client is the ability to concurrently download a new WU just before the current one completes, or while the current one uploads.  Very fast computers, or computers on a very fast internet connection will find that changing this setting to 100% is the best balance between points and performance.  Remember the bonus clock starts ticking when the WU is downloaded, so if downloaded earlier than necessary to keep the computer folding, the bonus points clock starts ticking down.
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