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HornyFurry

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    HornyFurry got a reaction from ShrimpBrime in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    thanks for the help!
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    HornyFurry got a reaction from APasz in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    thanks for the help!
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    HornyFurry reacted to APasz in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    As Shrimp has said, Intel is more forgiving compared to AMD. Should work just fine.
    Will always recommend getting a single kit of amount needed but that's not always possible.
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    HornyFurry reacted to APasz in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    Apart from the AMD specific concerns.
    Generally if the kits are brought together it's extremely likely they are apart of, or close to the same batch. Thus highly compatible.
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    HornyFurry reacted to ShrimpBrime in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    2 x 8 GB sticks, the one you've picked are good memory modules 3600mhz CL14. They'd likely do 3800/4000mhz CL16 on an Intel IMC no problem 1.35-1.40v.
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    HornyFurry reacted to ShrimpBrime in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    I cannot promise 4 sticks will do X speed. Running 4 sticks also makes tougher to run higher frequencies on Ryzen memory controller while Intel's is a little more forgiving, even then may not like higher frequency.
     
    There is always give and take. 
     
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    HornyFurry reacted to ShrimpBrime in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    lol, I've done that too!! My stupid phone......
     
    Any how
     
    IMC is Integrated Memory Controller.  - 
    It's a good kit. Likely Samsung B-Die modules. They would shine on an Intel rig for sure.
     
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    HornyFurry reacted to Kalm_Traveler in If i bought 2 sets of 2x8 ram would i run into problems or not?   
    why not just buy a 32gb kit with 4 of them that were already tested together?
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    HornyFurry got a reaction from ShrimpBrime in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    Alright so kingpin is the best one, got it.
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    HornyFurry reacted to Kalm_Traveler in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    The cards with 3 8-pin PCI-E power input connectors have much higher max TDP than cards with only 2, plus the companies who make them are binning the GPUs they receive from Nvidia and only putting the very best ones onto those graphics cards. 

    Card cooling being equal, the Kingpin (or I'm sure Galax HOF as well) will maintain higher clocks overall than any of the 2 PCI-E power connector cards simply because it won't hit power limit as quickly. Nvidia limits how much power can be drawn per connector, so all the normal cards will end up running into the same power wall. EVGA and Galax get around this by adding a 3rd connector.

    That Gigabyte card you linked is a normal 2-pin card.
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    HornyFurry reacted to Kalm_Traveler in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    For gaming, one of the high end 2080 Ti's will actually beat out even a power modded Titan RTX as far as max FPS. How do I know? because I have two power modded Titan RTXs in my HEDT rig, and a Kingpin 2080 Ti in the gaming rig. For games that don't work with SLI (aka most games), I get maybe 5% higher FPS on the single Kingpin card than on one of the power modded Titans (max TDP increased to ~ 434 watts, vs the Kingpins OC BIOS 520w tdp - remember 2080 Ti and Titan RTX are both the TU102 GPU, with ever so slightly more cores enabled on the Titan).
     
    Thankfully for my ego, some newer games are still getting SLI support so I play Jedi Fallen Order on the HEDT rig.
     
    *EDIT*
    Also, the Titan RTX 'not being intended for gaming' is irrelevant to someone's personal value though I agree that for gaming nobody should buy it now that I've learned my lesson with the Kingpin 2080 Ti. 

    You're a little confused on your SLI though - most games forever ('most' here meaning more than not, so over 50%) have not worked with SLI. This has never been different. In general, if a game will run with SLI enabled, scaling is generally pretty good and 'recent games barely benefit from it anymore' is false. Jedi Fallen Order is giving me almost perfect scaling across two cards. Also, games don't "drop support" for SLI. They generally don't work with it enabled, and sometimes end up being updated later to allow it to work - and SLI working out of the box is done via Nvidia creating SLI profiles specifically for each game - the game developers do not create the SLI profiles.
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    HornyFurry reacted to Kalm_Traveler in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    anywho OP - to answer your question...
     
    Since the majority of games do not work with SLI, I would suggest buying an EVGA Kingpin 2080 Ti or the Galax HOF 2080 Ti (the one with 3 8-pin PCI-E power connectors) as they will outperform a Titan RTX for max gaming FPS.
     
    If you really want to max it out, full custom water cooling with at least a 360mm radiator for each CPU and graphics card (so 2x 360mm or larger radiators) and to incorporate the Kingpin card you'll need to put a full cover water block on it (it comes as a hybrid card with a VRM fan and a 240mm AIO attached for the GPU/memory) which right now can only be had with a Bykski block since EVGA only made a handful of their Hydro Copper blocks for the KP card and they all sold out last summer.
     
    You could, of course, wait for the 30-series cards later this summer if you want even more FPS.
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    HornyFurry reacted to xg32 in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    hardware unboxed recently did a video that confirmed that 4 sticks of memory is alot faster than 2 sticks, way more than overclocking your cpu by 2-4%, so just get the 9900ks from silicon lottery, 4 sticks of that cl14 3600 ram, single 2080 ti kingpin, and call it, if you have no budget no point waiting.
     
    I'm still waiting for the 3950x with that ram...lol
     
     
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    HornyFurry reacted to Princess Luna in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    Might want to wait until April for both nVidia's and Intel's new releases... the i9 10900K and RTX 3080 Ti sounds more like the overkill PC you want to put together.
     
    That said, memory wise? something like: https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562839044/F4-3600C14D-16GTZN-Specification
     
    3600mhz CL14 XMP profile means the chip in there is binned as hell and with such tight timings you'll have the best performance possible.
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    HornyFurry reacted to nick name in Best ram for 5.3ghz all core i9-9900ks???   
    Find the fastest Samsung b-die available and hope you can reach its advertised speeds.
     
    And at 1080p I would say single GPU.
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    its getting messy and I was playing PUBG so sorry for short answers
     
    As long as you can keep the clocks of infinity fabric (FCLK) synced with the DRAM speed, the higher clocked DRAM will always outperform the lower clocked one assuming that the timings are not absolutely terrible, which in your case, they aren't.
    So 3200MHz CL14 will be slower than 3600MHz CL14 or CL16.
     
    The FCLK is prety much guaranteed to get to 1800MHz which matches the 3600MHz DRAM (Because DDR = Double Data Rate so 1800x2=3600, just so you understand why 1800MHz).
     
    The FCLK can on some CPUs be overclocked even up to 1900MHz which would match a 3800MHz RAM and there it would be still better to go 3800MHz CL16 over 3600MHz CL16 for example but you must be quite lucky to get a CPU that is able to clock its FCLK up to 1900MHz or higher, for that reason its not recommended to spend more money on DRAM thats faster than 3600MHz and therefore if you find out that your CPU can actually clock its FCLK higher than 1800MHz, you should just tune (overclock) the DRAM you already have to match its speed.
     
    I hope that answers it.
     
     
    Whether you buy 3200MHz DRAM or 3800MHz DRAM, you can always go to BIOS and try to tinker with the speed and timings yourself, but be aware that its very time consuming and you will have to test your PC for many, many hours while you will be prety much unable to use it if you want to be sure that your DRAM OC is stable and its not corrupting your data.
     
    I went the OC way and got a cheap kit of 64GB 3200MHz CL16 DRAM and then spent days overclocking it and testing to 3600MHz CL14 and 3733MHz CL16. If you want to do that, go ahead. Just be aware that it can take a lot of time.
    If you just want to use the DRAM Calculator, I had quite good experience with it as long as I used the recommended settings as with the faster ones, I found some instabilities. There you can save quite a bit of time, but I would still recommend you to use bootable USB with Memtest86 to test for stability (at least 4 full passes which may take upwards of 12h to finish with 64GB of DRAM, there must be 0 errors).
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    yes
    3600CL 14 will perform better than 4000CL16 because you cant keep the clocks of IF the same as RAM speed so there will be extra latency
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    HornyFurry got a reaction from WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    I think i'll just go with the 3600mhz 16cl, 64gb and see what i can do to lower the timings/latency and maybe even up the speed to 3733-3800 ( it all depends on what fps/stability i'll get in benchmarks )
     
    Short answer the (3600mhz 16cl 64gb) is better than the (32000mhz 14cl 64gb) when both are tuned with dram calculator correct?
     
    edit: the 3600mhz 16cl 64gb is around 30$+ more than the 3200mhz 14cl 64gb
    i know price doesn't always mean it's better
     
     
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    HornyFurry reacted to DildorTheDecent in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    I bought Team Group Dark Pro 3600C16 and run it at 3800C16 with FCLK 1:1. Probably could get those timings down a touch more but I'm OK with were they're at.
     
    Pretty much any B-die kit will do. I opted for 3600 cos I'm already at that sweetspot if I want to back the OC down for whatever reason.
     
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    3600MHz is best for the simple reason that the higher the RAM speed the higher the Infinity Fabric clocks and that impacts the performance the most.
     
    But even when ignoring the Infinity Fabric, the 3600MHz CL16 is still faster than 3200MHz CL14.
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    If they cost prety much the same then the 3600MHz one will be better if you want to just enable XMP and be done with it.
    Otherwise, if you want to tinker with it more it likely won't make a much difference but the 3600MHz kit may be binned better so you may get more clocks or lower timings out of it when tuning manualy.
     
    I have 3200MHz CL16 4x16GB kit and I can run it at 3600MHz CL14 or 3733MHz CL16 after I tuned it manually, its just way more work than just having to run XMP.
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    The 3600MHz CL16 will outperform the 3200MHz CL14 by quite a bit with Zen2 as you will also run the FCLK (Infinity Fabric) at higher clocks which dramaticaly improves performance.
     
    I started with the calculator then tuned manually.
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    HornyFurry reacted to WereCat in Need help with tuning/best ram for ryzen 3950x   
    The difference is about 1% on avg which does not really matter. Also the primary timing don't affect the performance nearly as much as the unknown secondary timings.
    If you have to sacrifice 32GB of RAM just to get 3-5 more FPS then its not worth it, get more RAM if you absolutely need it.
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    HornyFurry got a reaction from ShrimpBrime in What % does ram load affect fps?   
    i see ty for info
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    HornyFurry reacted to ShrimpBrime in What % does ram load affect fps?   
    That would be optimal average. 3600mhz on Ryzen 3000 is still a little slow yet.
    3800mhz always suggested as top optimal... Because IF is desired linked, while it is possible for higher frequency.
     
    My 2700x runs memory faster than most people with 3000 series chips. But its not a set it and forget it feature. There's work involved and plenty of time to be spent on optimizing an overclock not to mention the operating system.
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