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    TechnicGeek reacted to Falcon1986 in Wireless router slows down and denies access   
    @TechnicGeek
     
    Those features don't seem to be activated anyway.
     
    A router that seems to get "fixed" temporarily after power-cycling likely has a small amount of RAM that is being consumed very quickly, which causes all functions to slow down over time. You can try disabling as many unnecessary logging functions as possible, but I'm inclined to believe this won't yield much improvement.
     
    If it were just the wireless portion having the issue, I'd suspect wireless interference from neighbourhood signals. While you've yet to show us the wireless survey results that were asked for previously, I suspect that those results would be inconsequential.
     
    In essence, you'll benefit from a new router, preferably something from the WiFi 5 generation or better.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Tannah in Windows 10 Takes Long Time to Restart After Upgrade   
    Glad to hear it.
    Have a great Weekend
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Justaphysicsnerd in Why Does Windows Account "User" Folder Appear on Desktop?   
    Settings->Personalization->Themes->Desktop Icons
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Tannah in Windows 10 Takes Long Time to Restart After Upgrade   
    That's a bit of a tough one without some more information.
    The first thing I suggest doing is turn on verbose mode for shutdown and startup
    https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-turn-on-verbose-booting-mode-in-windows-10-with-a-registry-edit/
     
    This might give you a idea of where its hanging up.
     
    The other thing to look at is your Event Viewer: Right click on your start menu and select Event Viewer, expand Custom Views, and Click on Administrative Events. and look at the time where you were shutting down, Be aware there is normally a ton of warnings and errors in the event viewer, most can be ignored. You might find the information here. Some People often find the event viewer a bit intimidating.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to BTGbullseye in Why My Ryzen 5 3600X Runs at 36 Multiplier in Idle?   
    Non-x, in my signature.
    That's the stock idle multiplier... If you're not getting it, your system is never truly idle.
    Nope, completely stock, with 1usmus's "Ryzen Universal" power plan.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to VEXICUS in SSD TIER LIST   
    Welcome to the SSD tier list.
     
    SSD or Solid State Drive is a storage device containing non-volatile flash memory, used in place of hard drive because of its much greater speed. Unlike a hard drive, a solid state drive doesnt have any moving parts. It has two main components - A flash controller and  NAND flash memory chips.
    More information on solid state drives can be had from here..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive
     
    This guide differentiates SSDs in different tiers based on their DWPD, sustained writes, controllers, NAND types and value for money.
     
    Make Ctrl + F your Best Friend...
     
     
    NVMe
     
    Tier A (Ultra High-end)
    ADATA - S50 (Phison E16), S70  Addlink - S90 (Phison E16), S92 (Phison E16) Apacer - AS2280Q4 (Phison E16) Corsair - MP600 PCIe 4.0 (Phison E16) Essencore - ECT455 (Phison E16) Galax - HOF 4.0 (Phison E16), HOF 4.0 Extreme (Phison E18) Gigabyte - AORUS PCIe 4.0 (Phison E16) Goodram - IRDM Ultimate X (Phison E16) Inland - Performance (Phison E16) KingMax - PX4480 (Phison E16) MSI - Lightning (Phison E16) Patriot - Viper VP4100 (Phison E16) PNY - CS4040 (Phison E16) Sabrent - Rocket 4.0 (Phison E16), Rocket 4 Plus (Phison E18), Rocket Q4 (Phison E16) Samsung - 970 Pro (Samsung Phoenix), 980 Pro (Samsung Elpis) Seagate - FireCuda 520 (Phison E16) Silicon Power - US70 (Phison E16) Team Group - Cardea Zero Z440 (Phison E16), Cadea Ceramic C440 (Phison E16), Cardea Zero (Phison E16) Western Digital - Black SN850 (WD Proprietary), AN 1500 (WD Proprietary)  
    Tier B (High-end)
    ADATA - SX8200 Pro v1 (SMI SM2262EN), Gammix S11 Pro (SMI SM2262EN), S50 Lite (SMI SM2267), SX8800 Pro (Realtek RTS5762), Spectrix S40G / RGB (Realtek RTS5762), SX8100 (Realtek RTS5762), Gammix S7 (Realtek RTS5762) Addlink - S70 (Phison E12), X70 (Phison E12) Asgard - AN3 (SMI SM2262EN), AN3+ (Starblaze STAR1000P) Asura - Genesis Xtreme (Phison E12) Corsair - MP510 (Phison E12) Digifast - Ace (Phison E12) Galax - HOF (Phison E12) Gigabyte - AUROS RGB AIC (Phison E12) Hikvision - C2000 (Phison E12) HP - EX950 (SMI SM2262EN) Inland - Premium (Phison E12) KingMax - PX3480 (Phison E12) Kingston - KC2000 (SMI SM2262EN), KC2500 (SMI SM2262EN) LiteOn - MU X1 (Phison E12) Mushkin - Pilot-E (SMI SM2262EN) MyDigitalSSD - BPX Pro (Phison E12) Patriot - Viper VPN100 (Phison E12), Viper VPR100 (Phison E12) Pioneer - APS-SE20G (Phison E12) Plextor - M9Pe (Marvell 88SS1093) PNY - CS3030 (Phison E12), CS2130 (Phison E12S) Toshiba / Kioxia - RD500 (Phison E12S), Exercia Plus (Phison E12S) Sabrent - Rocket (Phison E12) Samsung - 970 EVO Plus (Samsung Phoenix), 970 EVO (Samsung Phoenix), 960 EVO (Samsung Polaris), 960 Pro (Samsung Polaris) SanDisk - Extreme Pro NVMe (WD Proprietary) Seagate - BarraCuda 510 (Phison E12), FireCuda 510 (Phison E12) Silicon Power - P34A80 (Phison E12) SK Hynix - Gold P31 (SK Hynix Cepheus), Platinum P31 (SK Hynix Cepheus) Team Group - Cardea II (Phison E12), Cardea Liquid (Phison E12), MP34 (Phison E12), Z340 (SMI SM2262EN) Transcend - SSD 220S (SMI SM2262EN) Western Digital - Black / SN750 (WD Proprietary) Zadak - Spark (Phison E12)  
    Tier C (Mid-end)
    ADATA - SX8200 Pro v2 (SMI SM2262G), SX8200 (SMI SM2262), Gammix S11 (SMI SM2262), Falcon* (Realtek RTS5762DL) [1] Corsair - MP400 (Phison E12S)  Crucial - P5 (Micron DMO1B2) Drevo - D1 Xtreme (SMI SM2262) HP- EX920 (SMI SM2262) Inland - Platinum (Phison E12S) Intel - 760p (SMI SM2262) Lexar - NM700 (Marvell 88SS1092) Mushkin - Pilot (SMI SM2262) Pioneer - APS-SE20Q (Phison E12) Plextor - M9P+ (Marvell 88SS1092), M9PeY/G/GN (Marvell 88SS1093) Sabrent - Rocket Q (Phison E12S) Western Digital - Black 2018 (WD Proprietary)  
    Tier D (Budget)
    ADATA - SX6000 Pro* (Realtek RTS5763DL), Gammix S5* (Realtek RTS5763DL), SX6000 Lite* (Realtek RTS5763DL), Swordfish* (Realtek RTS5763DL) [1] Addlink - S68* (Phison E13T) [1] Asgard - AN1/AN2* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Biostar - M700* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Colorful - CN600* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Corsair - MP500 (Phison E7) Crucial - P1 (SMI SM2263), P2* (Phison E13T) [1] Gigabyte - NVMe v2* (Phison E13T) [1] Greenliant - ArmourDrive* (Phison E13T) [1] Goodram - PX500* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] HP - EX900* (SMI SM2263XT) Inland - Pro QLC* (Phison E13T) [1] Intel - 660p (SMI SM2263), 665p (SMI SM2263) Kingston - A2000 (SMI SM2263) KLEVV - KRAS C700 / RGB (SMI SM2263), KRAS C710* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Lexar - NM600* (SMI SM2263XT), NM610* (SMI SM2263XT) Mushkin - Enhanced Helix-L* (SMI 2263XT) MyDigitalSSD - BPX (Phison E7), SBXe 2nd Gen* (Phison E13T) Orico - V500* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Patriot - P300* (SMI SM2263XT or Phison E13T) [1] SanDisk - Ultra* (WD Proprietary) [1] Silicon Power - P34A60* (SMI SM2263XT) TC SUNBOW - NVMe* (SMI SM2263XT) Team Group - MP33* (SMI SM2263XT or Phison E13T), Z330* (Phison E13T) [1] Toshiba / Kioxia - RC500 (Phison E12S), Exercia (Phison E12C) Transcend - SSD 110S* (SMI SM2263XT) Verbatim - Vi3000* (Phison E13T) Western Digital - SN500* (WD Proprietary), SN550* (WD Proprietary)  
    Tier E (OKAYish)
    ADATA - SX6000 (Realtek RTS5760), Gammix S10* (SMI SM2260) Apacer - AS2290P2 Pro* (Phison E8T) [1] Corsair - MP300 (Phison E8) Gigabyte - NVMe* (Phison E8T) [1] Inland - Basic* (Phison 8T) [1], Professional (Phison E8) Kingston - A1000 (Phison E8) Lexar - NM500* (Marvell 88NV1160), Lexar NM520 (Phison E8) MyDigitalSSD - SBX (Phison E8), SBXe* (Phison 8T) Patriot - Scorch (Phison E8) Silicon Power - P32A80* (Phison 8T) Team Group - MP32 (Phison E8)  
     
    SATA
     
    Tier A (High-end)
    Samsung - 850 PRO (Samsung MEX), 860 PRO (Samsung MJX) Seagate - Ironwolf 110 (Seagate 500021768)  
    Tier B (Mid-end)
    ADATA - SX950U (SMI SM2258), SU800 (SMI SM2258), SX850 (SMI SM2258), SU750* (Realtek RTS5733DMQ), SU760* (Realtek RTS5733DMQ) Addlink - S20 (Phison S10) Corsair - Neutron XTi (Phison S10) Crucial - MX500 (SMI SM2258), BX300 (SMI SM2258), MX300 (Marvell 88SS1074), MX200 (Marvell 88SS9189) Gigabyte - UD Pro (Phison S10) HP - S700 Pro (SMI SM2258) Intel - 545s (SMI SM2259), 540s (SMI SM2258) Kingston - KC600 (SMI SM2259) KLEVV - NX500 (SMI SM2258) Lexar - NS200 (SMI SM2258), NM210 (SMI SM2258) Micron - 1100 (Marvell 88SS1074), 1300 (Marvell 88SS1074) Mushkin - Triactor 3DX (SMI SM2258)  MyDigitalSSD - BP5e Slim 7 (Phison S10) Neo Forza - NFS06 (SMI SM2258) PNY - CS1311 (Phison S10) SK Hynix - SL308 (SK hynix SH87820BB) Samsung - 850 EVO (Samsung MGX), 860 EVO (Samsung MJX), 860 QVO (Samsung MJX), 870 QVO (Samsung MKX) Sandisk - Extreme Pro (Marvell 88SS9187), Ultra 3D (Marvell 88SS1074) Seagate - Barracuda (Phison S10) SK Hynix - Gold S31 ( Quartz SH87830CC) Team Group - L5 Lite 3D (SMI SM2258), Delta RGB (SMI SM2258), Vulcan (SMI SM2258)  Toshiba - Vector 180 (OCZ Barefoot 3 M00) Transcend - SSD370* (Transcend TS6500), SSD370S* (Transcend TS6500), SSD430S ( SMI SM2258), SSD830S (SMI SM2258), SSD230S (SMI SM2258) Western Digital - Blue 3D (Marvell 88SS1074), Blue (Marvell 88SS1074)  
     
    Tier C (Budget)
    ADATA - SU650* (SMI SM2258XT), SU655* (SMI SM2258XT), SP900 (SandForce SF-2281) Colorful - SL500* (SMI SM2258XT) Crucial - BX500* (SMI SM2258XT), MX100 (Marvell 88SS9189) Drevo - X1 Pro* (SMI SM2258XT) Gigabyte - SSD* (Phison S11) HP - S700* (SMI SM2258XT), M700* (SMI SM2258XT), P600* (SMI SM2258XT) KingDian - S280 (SMI SM2258) KingSpec - P4* (Maxio MAS0902A) Kingston - UV400 (Marvell 88SS1074), KC300 (SandForce SF2281) , UV500 (Marvell 88SS1074) Lexar - NS100* (Marvell 88NV1120) Mushkin - Source* (SMI SM2258XT), Reactor (SMI SM2258EN), Reactor LT (SMI SM2258EN), Triactor 3DL* (SMI SM2258XT) Neo Forza - NFS01* (SMI SM2258XT) Patriot - Burst* (Phison S11), P200* (SMI SM2258XT) Pioneer - APS-SL3* (Phison S11) PNY - CS900* (Phison S11), CS2211* (Phison S11) Sandisk - Ultra II (Marvell 88SS9190), Ultra Plus (Marvell SS889175) Silicon Power - S55* (SMI SM2258XT), A55* (SMI SM2258XT), A58* (Phison S11) TC SUNBOW - X3 (SMI SM2258) [Although some units in USA and Canada ship with a DRAM-less SMI SM2258XT] Team Group - Elite GX1* (SMI SM2258XT), Elite GX2* (SMI SM2258XT), MS30* (SMI SM2258XT), EX2* (SMI SM2258XT) Toshiba - TR200* (Phison S11) Transcend - SSD420S* (SMI SM2258XT), SSD820S* (SMI SM2258XT)  
    Tier D (OKAYish)
    ADATA - SU630* (Maxio MAS0902A), SU635* (Maxio MAS0902A) Addlink - S22* (Phison S11T) HP - S600* (Marvell 88NV1120) Hyundai - Sapphire* (Marvell 88NV1120) Inland - Professional* (Phison S11) KingDian - S400* (SMI SM2258XT) Kingston - A400* (Phison S11), SSDNow V300* (Sandisk SF-2281), HyperX RGB (Marvell 88SS1074), Q500* (Phison S11T/S13T) Sandisk - SSD Plus* (SMI SM2256S) Team Group - L5 Lite* (SMI SM2256S), Dark L3 (Phison S8), L3 EVO* (Phison S11) Western Digital - Green* (SMI SM2258XT)  
     
    EXTERNAL
     
    Tier A (Ultra High-end)
    LaCie - Rugged SSD (Phison E12) Patriot - EVLVR 2 (Phison E12)  
    Tier B (High-end)
    HP - P800* (SMI SM2263) [1] LaCie - Rugged SSD (Phison E12) Sabrent - Rocket Pro (Phison E12) Western Digital - P50 (WD Proprietary)  
    Tier C (Mid-end)
    ADATA - SE760* (Realtek RTS5763DL) [1], SE800* (Innogrit IG5208) [1] HP - P700* (SMI SM2263) [1] Lexar - SL100 Pro* (Marvell 88NV1160) [1] Mushkin - CarbonX* (SMI SM2263XT) Orico - GV100* (SMI SM2263XT) [1] Patriot - PXD* (Phison E13T) [1] PNY - Pro Elite (Phison E8) Sabrent - Rocket Nano* (Phison E13T) [1] Samsung - T5 (Samsung MGX), T7* (Samsung Pablo) Sandisk - Extreme Portable (Marvell 88SS1074) Seagate - Fast SSD (Phison S10) Team Group - PD1000* (SMI SM2263XT) Transcend - ESD350C* (SMI SM2263XT) Western Digital - My Passport SSD (New) (Marvell 88SS1074)  
    Tier D (Budget / Storage)
    ADATA - SC680* (SMI SM2259XT), SD600Q* (Maxio MAS0902A), SD700 (SMI SM2258) Buffalo - SSD-PSMU3 (Phison S10) HP - P600* (SMI SM2258XT) LaCie - Portable SSD (Phison S10) Lexar - SL200* (Marvell 88NV1120) Mushkin - Source Q* (SMI SM2259XT) PNY - Elite* (Phison S11) Seagate - One Touch SSD (Phison S10) Silicon Power - Bolt B75 Pro* (Phison S11), PC60* (SM2259XT) Team Group - PD400 (SMI SM2258)  
    PM me for any changes.
    Updated - 25/01/2021
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    TechnicGeek reacted to NeilT in Chinese SSD   
    Rather than start a new topic on this, I thought I'd share some info I have on the topic as people will hit the thread.
     
    I've had two KingDian M.2 SSD's.  Not for $20 off but at around half price.
     
    The first one my Chuwi lapbook Air refused because it claimed the controller was not supported.  The eBay seller refused to refund but did give me about 85% of my money back.  The SSD works in a USB 3.0 M.2 caddy so that's fine.  It does not get a lot of use and only carries transient data.
     
    The second one worked.  I got it from Amazon and I checked out the supplier.  Amazon returns are a lot better than eBay, however, so I paid the extra £5.  The drive, identical to the first one, was accepted by the Chuwi and it worked perfectly.  However it ran hot.  Very hot.  I was not too bothered because my Chuwi is simply a portable device which I don't create content on, it accesses other content which is cloud or NAS/sever based.
     
    Yesterday the SSD failed.  About a year after I bought it.  Today I put it under a very strong magnifying glass and had a good look at it with the label off.  It has a genuine SanDisk chip on it, clearly new and not re-used.  A much more detailed inspection shows that this is a part which failed QC and has been "touched up" by hand.  Soldering quality is generally poor for the entire board, clearly it was a failed batch through the solder bath.
     
    Further inspection shows what failed.  There is a chip on the back (don't ask me it has no markings and I'm not an electroics engineer), but the chip has crumbled and shows signs of overheating from the inside.
     
    As has been said above.  You get what you pay for.  I will replace it with a mainstream drive now that they have reached reasonable price levels and I have some experience with the Chuwi itself and whether I actually want to keep it.
     
    The drive did the job I asked of it.  Namely to give me time to experience the machine and see if it would do what I required or whether I'd need to get something more powerful than the Atom chip, without driving my expense to the levels where I felt I would have to keep it to get my money's worth.
     
    However, as expected, the lifetime of the SSD was short.
     
    I wouldn't sell anyone a machine with these SSD's in them.  I value my reputation and this won't enhance it.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Radium_Angel in Chinese SSD   
    When you buy something online, do you wait 6 months to do a review? Most people don't. They buy the SSD, see the huge performance difference between their ancient 5400RPM spinner, and go "wow! Amazing!" and post an awesome review.
     
    6 months later the drive dies and it's too late to post a bad review, as they're not thinking about that, they're thinking all the data they lost....
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    TechnicGeek reacted to minibois in How to Mount SSD on this Case?   
    You have to remove the motherboard to mount an SSD on that back panel.
    Alternatively, you can check if you can also mount a 2.5" drive in one of the HDD mounting trays.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Abdullah Bhutta in How to Mount SSD on this Case?   
    If you can disassemble and reassemble its the best but if you cant then there are drive cages might be able to put SSD in that one.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Jason 57 in How to Mount SSD on this Case?   
    Sadly as stated above, if you want your SSD mounted on the back of the MB tray, then yes you need to remove the MB and mount them there. 
    Your other options are on the PSU shroud or in the HDD/SSD drive cage. 
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Chris Pratt in Motherboard says low power promontory   
    Promontory is the chipset architecture. Low-power is an indication that it's energy optimized. Doesn't mean anything really. It's the same for virtually any Zen 2 capable board.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to svmlegacy in How to Test In Real-Time Different CPU Fan Speeds?   
    Either this or an Arduino providing a PWM signal.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to emosun in How to Test In Real-Time Different CPU Fan Speeds?   
    a lab power supply would be best if you need to test the fan at any voltage or speed
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    TechnicGeek reacted to huilun02 in Which of Those 2 Tablets Would You Suggest?   
    If you don't need stylus, get an S5E instead. Wonderful 1440p OLED screen and quad speakers. The aspect ratio of iPads really suck for watching videos.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to BlueChinchillaEatingDorito in Which of Those 2 Tablets Would You Suggest?   
    I have the S5e which is pretty comparable to the S6 Lite. Honestly those aren't terrible devices (well maybe the SM-T590 since it's been out since 2018 so Samsung might drop support for it very soon), but I would seriously consider the iPad 8th gen over either of these. The iPad just feels much more refined and responsive than these Galaxy Tablets. The only real thing the S5e has going for it is the quad speakers which neither the S6 Lite, the SM-T590, or the iPad have. 
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    TechnicGeek reacted to nick name in How To Properly Set Up Voltages For Ryzen 3900X?   
    Ahem @AAura
     
    What cooler are you using and what is the ambient room temperature?  
     
    And you can use a negative CPU Core Voltage, but you'll want to test and see how large of a negative offset you can use before you see clock stretching which reduces performances.  
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    TechnicGeek got a reaction from Mark Kaine in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    Okay, I will describe anomaly that nobody solved until now.
     
    Recently I have left my computer unused for a few days, maybe 1 week. When I tried to power it on it didn't. I took motherboard, CPU, RAM and power supply out of chassis to try to understand what is wrong.
     
    I started with power supply. Used paperclip to connect green and black and saw that fan was spinning. Then I took cheap multimeter I purchased from Chinese website and check 24-pin cable voltages. All powered pins were within proper range.
     
    After using screwdriver, paperclip, pocket knife, kitchen knife, spoon on 2-pins responsible for powering on motherboard I decided the problem was in motherboard. When I flipped I/0 switch on power supply the Aorus logo led turned on for 1 second only but CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN were not spinning. It was all quiet. No speaker in my system by the way but I doubt it would beep with motherboard not powering up.
     
    I shipped my motherboard to PC repair shop since it's still under warranty and after testing it they called me and told it works. Receiving it back nothing changed on my side. I still couldn't power it on. Took PSU to 2 electronics repair shops where they used Chinese power supply voltage tester. They told me my PSU works. I wanted them to plug it into their computers but they told me they don't want to take the risk of damaging PCs of their clientele.
     
    I took my motherboard, CPU, RAM and PSU to PC repair shop and paid money to check if my motherboard works using my components only. And what do you know? It worked right away and I couldn't believe my eyes. Technician said all works, there is nothing more to check.
     
    I tried powering my motherboard using exact same components. It didn't work. Tried plugging off UPS from wall outlet to use battery's power and it didn't work. I took these components to my neighbor on 3rd floor in my apartment thinking electricity in my flat might be not "clean" but it didn't work again.
     
    That's the anomaly my friends. Either evil spirit possessed my motherboard or PSU or they just hate me. Maybe I need to call techsorcist. I don't know what to think but I am not going to lose my sanity because of that. 
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Spotty in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    Your power supply is semi modular. The CPU power connector is fixed to the power supply. If you unplug all of the modular cables you will be left with the motherboard 24pin and the 8pin CPU cable.
     
     
    No! PCIe cables are for graphics cards and do not work with CPU!
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    TechnicGeek reacted to jonnyGURU in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    Well.. let's see.
     
    One of them is just going to blow up and kill all of your PC hardware.
     
    The other one will shoot flames and burn down your house.
     
     
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    TechnicGeek reacted to sub68 in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    no just junk it
    its rusting!!!!!!!!!!!!
    that probaly means it got wet not trust worthy
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Tan3l6 in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    Looks like Antikythera mechanism the backplate/grill.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to Moonzy in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    "What is the risk?"
     
    Yes
     
     
    edit: honestly, scale up PSU quality with your system tier
    yours is a mid tier PC and it deserves a tier B PSU
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    TechnicGeek reacted to SavageNeo in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    what the fudge. do not use any of those!!!! even on office system.
     
    it is very likely that your motheboard explodes or something.
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    TechnicGeek reacted to AndrewZScorpion in What is the Risk with These 2 Used Power Supplies?   
    Those things look like they were found on the side of the road, and given the age of the second one, they very well could have been. I would not hook those up to anything of value.
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