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    1van reacted to Notsag in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Hola, tengo una z270 msi gaming m3, me gustaría actualizar a procesadores de 8 nucleos, es posible?
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    1van got a reaction from Levi990e in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    @EYFHRFortunately there is a ported BIOS for this board (a port from MSI Z370A). The original one is tested, but it is dated 2019 so it does not include the recent CPU microcodes. I have updated the microcodes, please check the attached (this one has not been tested).
     
    Pinmod is still required!
     
    Even though MSI boards can be flashed via FPT (see the guide), it is better to have a programmer available if something goes wrong.
     
    Z170APRO_CFL_2019.zip Z170APRO_CFL_UPD.zip
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    1van got a reaction from Orof in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    @SirGunther there might be still a problem with ACPI or other patches, because of your antivirus interference, path naming etc. Try to use the most modern CoffeeTime version and add it to antivirus whitelist. Everything should be green, without any errors. Sometimes Flashback does not work, especially if you tried flashing several modded bioses already. It might have left some "wrong" parts from previous bioses. Try getting an SPI programmer (CH341A).
    @Orof thanks for the report! Please put images in spoiler tag (eye icon in the editor).
     
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    1van reacted to Orof in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Hello dear forum members!
    It has been a long time (6.5 years) since I installed Xeon processors on the LGA771 boards that work to this day.
    Today I upgraded the 6700K I had so far to the 9900K on the Z170 board (which is not officially supported). 
     
    Note that there are some updates (due to the update of CoffeTime software to version 0.92) and additional distinctions that I discovered during the attempts to install the processor. Each motherboard requires a different installation, but for the sake of clarification to the guide here I will mention the highlights for Gigabyte boards
    1. First download the BIOS files and the Coffetime 0.92 software as shown in the manual, along with the FlashProgrammingTool (FPT) software. Place them in folders on drive C.
    2. Prepare the BIOS using the software with administrator privileges, as shown in the following image:
    Note that both the ME and the VBIOS + GOP must be updated so that they can work with the processors (as well as the appropriate microcodes, and make sure it is saved!). In the EXTRA label I added a memory expansion to 128 GB. Also important - in MAC1 add the MAC address of your Intel network card and keep the number for yourself (can be found in the network card properties)
    3. If your operating system is installed on NVMe, and the NVME is in MBR format and not GPT - you will need to convert it to GPT before executing the mode, using RECOVERY mode with MBR2GPT command:
    3. Excellent, you have the BIOS, the SSD drive in the appropriate format and you are ready to flash the bios. Before that please make sure you have a backup BIOS (before flashing) on an flash disk if you need to back up to the previous BIOS (as I did). Now comes the step of using FPT to flash the BIOS (in other boards the way may be different, like using Programmer). It is important not to disconnect the computer from the power supply at this stage otherwise the BIOS will be Corrupted. Once the flash is complete, you are ready to install the CPU.
    Shut down the computer via FPT only using the fptw64 -greset command, and before the computer turns on after the restart turn it off and do not let it turn on. Disconnect it from the power supply and remove the battery.
    5. Before installing the CPU, you will need to cover some of its pins according to the board (Gigabyte covers the most), and connect some of them (depending on the board):
    Here is the mod I made using stickers from  kind seller of Aliexpress who also brought tweezers:
    6. Install the processor on the board. Put the cooler on for a moment and make sure the board goes up (if you can, I used the board's number bulbs to make sure it goes up) before you put everything together (if it does not go up you may not have flashed/customizes the BIOS properly, or you may not have put the microcodes properly). If it comes up, turn it off and reassemble the computer.
    7. Make sure the cooler is seated properly and turn on the computer, enter the BIOS
    8. Great, you're almost done! In my case the CPU was at too high a voltage (1.4VCORE) which put a load on the VRM and they also crash. This is of course not normal and the VCORE should be lower. In the BIOS use Adaptive Vcore and download at least 0.07-0.1V (in my case, play with it to see that the CPU does not get too much voltage) and check the stability. Monitor the temperature of the VRM and CPU using HWinfo. my board VRM temps do not exceed 70c under full load, the the CPU is cool as well.
    9. Congratulations!
    PS - My old Mugen 2 (which still cooled the Q9300) cools this processor well (better than 6700K! Thanks to the fact that the processor is soldered to IHS as opposed to 6700K) and is silent. I get higher and more stable frames with the computer, my brother can encode movies at 2x higher speed, and I can be with a quiet mind for a few more years until I have to upgrade. The computer is stable after I have fixed the voltages. Was very enjoyable and worth it! Just make sure you have a board with VRM good enough for that and be prepared for the complexity of the process.
    Too bad Intel did not let us just install the CPU in a normal way (because as you can see, it works great), but for that there is Modding
    I would be happy to assist with any question / request!
    Regards,
    Or Cohen
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    1van reacted to Remiix_Dripgxd in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Thanks for everything, that video really made everything super easy, it turned out That just renaming the cap file made the flash unbelievably easy. from there, 2 pieces of Kapton tape and a piece of copper tape to insulate and short the processor pads and everything ran as if intel actually intended it. my 9700k is running cool and smoothly at a 5.2ghz overclock under water. This all proves to me that intel is a pack of money hungry bastards, there's no reason this couldn't have been made to work from the factory.
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    1van got a reaction from ZachNap in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    @ZachNapI'd place it properly, just to be sure, even if it may not be as dangerous as misplacing the piece on the right side. Thanks for the feedback.
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    1van reacted to ZachNap in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Thank you for creating this guide, I successfully got an i5 9600k running in my gigabyte z170n gaming 5 mini itx motherboard. I've never done anything like this before and I'm super glad that everything worked on my first attempt.
    I also created a to-scale template for the pin mod that I used to cut out all my pieces of kapton tape. I have a PDF of the template attached below along with a picture of my cpu with the pin mod.
    While typing this I notice that I actually misplaced the piece of kapton tape on the left side. My computer seems to be running fine, I'm not sure if it's okay to leave it like that or if I should take the cpu out and fix that.
     
     
    PinModTemplate.pdf
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    1van got a reaction from Kronos77 in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Hello guys.
    I used a search engine and found that the possibility to run CoffeeLake processors on Sky\KabyLake motherboards was brought up here before, but did not receive a wide coverage, even though there are many people who have good Z170/270 motherboards and want to upgrade their obsolete 4C/8T i3s i7s.
    Many such cases.
     
    The modification itself is more than a year old, but it's better late, than never?
    To those who are interested, I present the translation of this guide below. Thanks to all the people who made this modification possible and to the all people who contributed to this guide. I am not a native speaker, so corrections are welcome.
     
     
    0. Before You Begin. Disclaimer
    You are responsible for your actions and consequences thereof. There is no guarantee that everything will work as it should or work at all.
    1. Highlights
    2. BIOS Dump and Personal Data Extraction
    3. CPU Preparation
     
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    1van reacted to BlastingKap in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Just wanted to leave a thanks here for the guide. Picked up an i7 8700 and it's been fun getting it to work in a z170 maximus hero.
     
    One thing i wish i'd realized sooner is that the stock voltages for the non-k parts are waaaay too low. I've essentially had to 'OC' the 8700 up to stock speeds by adjusting voltages and power manually. SVID and Auto anything was a complete mess and it couldn't even reach the Windows login screen.
     
    Methods/Tools used:
    - kapton tape for the two isolated pins
    - a very small strip of conductive tape for the SKTOCC pins
    - a CH341A to flash the bios
    - a cheap chip puller (almost destroyed the legs on the poor DIP chip without it)
    - stock BIOS v2202 (as it came highly recommended)
    - the russian coffeetime tool (v0.85) - picked the experimental 'inject all' option for Asus.
     
    Lessons learned:
    - The CoffeeTime tool ships with the 64-bit version of cecho. I ran the tool in an old Win7-32bit VM and had to replace it with the 32-bit version.
    - The AIO Tool from Win-raid has no config menu. It also needs to be executed close to root folder - I ran into a bunch of MMTool crashes due to path length exceeding the maximum. Even when it worked I was stuck on POST code 31 with a skylake CPU installed. It's possible the AIO tool doesn't keep skylake support?
    - CH341A windows software sucks. If you can run it on linux do that. I had problems flashing (read/verify would fail) until I tried  v1.31 'Free' version. 
    - All of these tools trigger virus scanners and unpacking them will get a bunch of their files quarantined/nuked instantly. Likely false positives but if you like to be cautious just use a VM or a PC that's isolated from the net.
    - If you care about your boar'd SN and MAC address, make a backup of your OG BIOS with the programmer before you start!
    - Even after dialing up the vcore to 1.4v, couldn't obtain an all-core sync higher than 3.5GHz. Turns out the Auto CPU Core Cache Ratio is also garbage and I had to dial in 34 min and max. I could then drop the vcore down to 1.3v and achieve a stable system (Prime95 - Blend - 30mins). Cache Ratio of 36 or higher wasn't stable without putting in more vcore than i was comfy with running 24/7.

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    1van got a reaction from BlastingKap in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    4. BIOS Modification
    5. Flashing the Modified BIOS
    6. First Start
    7. Troubleshooting, Bugs, and Features
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    1van got a reaction from BlastingKap in Guide: Running CoffeeLake/Refresh CPUs on Sky\KabyLake motherboards.   
    Hello guys.
    I used a search engine and found that the possibility to run CoffeeLake processors on Sky\KabyLake motherboards was brought up here before, but did not receive a wide coverage, even though there are many people who have good Z170/270 motherboards and want to upgrade their obsolete 4C/8T i3s i7s.
    Many such cases.
     
    The modification itself is more than a year old, but it's better late, than never?
    To those who are interested, I present the translation of this guide below. Thanks to all the people who made this modification possible and to the all people who contributed to this guide. I am not a native speaker, so corrections are welcome.
     
     
    0. Before You Begin. Disclaimer
    You are responsible for your actions and consequences thereof. There is no guarantee that everything will work as it should or work at all.
    1. Highlights
    2. BIOS Dump and Personal Data Extraction
    3. CPU Preparation
     
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    1van reacted to yaboistar in Is it possible to use liquid metal in a water cooling loop?   
    Here is an extract from a table showing the specific heat capacity of some common elements and compounds - it's measured in Joules per Gram per degree Kelvin. the higher the number, the more energy the compound or element must absorb for it's temperature to raise.
     
    You can see that water has a clear lead on everything else, whereas mercury is, well, awful frankly
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    1van got a reaction from Gix7Fifty in New cooler for i9   
    i9-9900K has a thermal interface limitation of about 200W. I.e. no matter what cooler you install, the CPU die will only be able to pass about 200W to it, due to the thermal interface between the die and the heatspreader.
    Check Der8auer's videos on youtube for confirmation.
    If you don't plan to delid the CPU, both your existing AIO or a NH-D15 are fine, no need to change.
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    1van got a reaction from AntiHero in New cooler for i9   
    i9-9900K has a thermal interface limitation of about 200W. I.e. no matter what cooler you install, the CPU die will only be able to pass about 200W to it, due to the thermal interface between the die and the heatspreader.
    Check Der8auer's videos on youtube for confirmation.
    If you don't plan to delid the CPU, both your existing AIO or a NH-D15 are fine, no need to change.
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    1van got a reaction from linttRa in Liquid or Air cooling for my PC?   
    @linttRaIt is done in UEFI, as described in your motherboard's manual. Or a tool like SpeedFan can be used.
    It is easy to do, but hard to explain?
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    1van reacted to empleat in which genius came up with IO shield ???   
    I can't install motherboard, because these iron things sticking out, i need to push it through io shield, but it pushes back and i still need 1-2 mm to the side, to screw screws. Why are these things there ??? I just broken them all when i got my previous pc. And same thing other people do, otherwise won't be able to install their motherboard. Geeeeeeeeeez... 
     
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    1van got a reaction from linttRa in Liquid or Air cooling for my PC?   
    You have to adjust a fan curve for these Zen2 CPUs, they have temperature spikes due to small-sized chiplets.
    The heat output of the CPU is not high, but the density is high. I'd recommend a good air cooler, it is more than enough, unless you want water cooling for aesthetic reasons. NH-U12S will be enough. However, some of these CPUs and coolers have non-flat contact surfaces, which leads to heat transfer problems with Zen2.
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    1van reacted to CringeFire in My Crosshair Vi hero refuses to shutdown   
    It is a amd motherboard so there isn't xmp
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    1van reacted to Princess Luna in Looking to upgrade my i5 7400 on my H110 board   
    It's not worth it, everywhere a second hand locked i7 7700 is almost the price of a R5 3600 + B450 which is waay faster.
     
    Not to mention H110 chipset board are garbage and could hold back the i7.
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    1van reacted to 19power97 in 3950x 25th November 2019   
    The only contention I have is that I also received an email notification from Newegg. However, the email stating "Its Here: 3950x" is a daily promotional email and not an official In stock notification that one could normally sign up for such as on the product page. The 3950x product page appeared online 3 mins after that email was released and still does not allow for in-stock notifications. During the 3900x's launch this was the case.
     
    That's why I hesitate to say it was indeed available. That would make Newegg the only retailer with an active product page with inventory over other large competitors like Amazon and Best Buy.
     
    As an employee of Best Buy, I can also a test that the product does not have active SKU for sale that's public facing. However, Best Buy is carrying the processor.
     
    I am more inclined to believe that Newegg's page is a placeholder until later this evening when other retailers will release their inventory as well.  
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    1van reacted to Randy R in 3950x 25th November 2019   
    Its out there.. just sold out within 3 minutes.
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    1van got a reaction from ZWELINHTET in Ryzen 7 3800X with RAM ???? MHz   
    @ZWELINHTET
    3 objections at least:
    The card you've picked is a reference design (bad and noisy cooling). If you want to install a full-cover waterblock on it - then the reference is the best choice. Otherwise, pick Sapphire Nitro, PowerColor Red Devil, Gigabyte 3-fan model, or MSI Gaming X; Water cooling for Zen 2 is not necessary, the heat dissipation of the CPU is considerably lower than 200W, meaning any good air cooler can cool it. The high temps of Zen 2 are due to the small-area 7nm chiplet which can't pass it's heat to the heatspreader fast enough; GPU again, since you're going to use it for production, confirm if your software is better accelerated by OpenCL, CUDA, or even tensor cores of RTX cards? I've read some companies have added the support already.
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    1van got a reaction from GordosTacoShop in CPU for emulation rig question   
    CoffeeMod your LGA1151 board (link in my signature) and install something like i3-8350K there, then OC it.
    I read emulation requires a few, but fast cores.
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    1van reacted to antiguy1994 in Memory Frequency Issues   
    So less than a week ago i decided to buy gaming desktop pre-built on newegg.com and i went with the asus rog strix GL10DH since it was good deal. It supposed to have DDR4 2666 Mhz but on cpuz it shows that its running at 1330 Mhz the ram speed is missing on task manager can't tell if really 1330 mhz. I looked up that you most of the time have to manually change this in the bios to make it use your max frequency or by using xmp or docp but my bios doesn't have ai tweeker or seem to have a option to adjust this.
     
    i contacted asus support the rep. i talked with said my motherboard doesn't have this feature and told me it should adjust the frequency based on the process and that it is impossible for ram to reach its max frequency which is 2666 in my case but that sounds like a load of bull. So any advice on this would be appreciated i would like to get the speeds i paid for and take advantage of the ryzen performance with higher clock speeds. 
     
    The bios and cpuz say the motherboard is the same model the desktop is which is the GL10DH but i found a article made by asus stating that its actually a special version of the asus prime b450m-k motherboard which is located in the paragraph under double trouble. So if you look up this motherboard on there website it shows a picture of there bios and it has ai tweaker in it so why does my bios not have it? Why would they take out the bios put a 2666 mhz ram with a ryzen 7 3700x and not have a option to overclock it? I read somewhere you can sometimes get past bios ocing locks with special chip is that even possible? I linked some pictures and websites in reference to my issues let me know if you need anymore information
     
    Link to where I bought it and the Specs:
    https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-gl10dh-nh764/p/N82E16883221574?item=N82E16883221574&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-gaming+desktop-_-N82E16883221574&gclid=CjwKCAiAzuPuBRAIEiwAkkmOSAgUSY2p_DSwF0SYcrAF2lSmRC8O7mbk-Csl9E0cxrQMioYG9krWSRoCX_4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
     
    Link to Asus Stateing what Motherboard it really is:
    https://rog.asus.com/articles/coming-soon/the-rog-strix-gl10dh-packs-3rd-gen-ryzen-into-an-affordable-gaming-desktop/
     
    Link to the motherboard page
    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B450M-K/




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