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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    Toight is definitely the word ūüė¨¬†
     
    A few bits came in today. Firstly, my Chinesium quality block. I'm a bit disappointed at this one, the measurements on the Amazon listing were all wrong, and it's actually nearly 5mm taller than advertised. Which I'm my world is a huge amount! 
     

     

     
    So as a result.... It's a tad too tall to fit. Thankfully...it doesn't need to be as thick as it is, and I only need a couple of mm.... I'll have to find a way to accurately skim the top down a little bit, I don't trust myself doing it by hand for once! 
     
    Thankfully some more quality items also came in today; my Alphacool pump and pump block. I'm absolutely amazed by these DC-LT pumps, the fact these can push a small custom loop is amazing. It's literally the size of a large coin.
     

     

     
    The original plan was to mount it directly to the radiator at the top, with the pump mounted on the underside of the block to stop it drying up. But this would mean I can't fit a fan in the top slot. If I spaced it out with an extra fitting, I'd run into space issues on the opposite side of the block where the exit is. So that plan went out the window.
     

     
    After a minute or two of deep thought, I reckon I've come up with a better placement anyway. If I position the pump lower down, as close to the Pico as I can, I'll be able to put it between the two components, hopefully simplifying my piping. I've sketched an idea out of how it would sit.
     
    Because it's so tricky, I'm going to finalise the pump placement last, probably when I do the piping. At least I have a little space around that area so I can mess with it a little.
     
     
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    Ross Siggers reacted to RollinLower in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    oof, that watercooling setup is gonna be toight!  Definitely following along for this one!
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    Ross Siggers reacted to fordy_rounds in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    Please, don't let one hater get you down. I loved the Dreamcast build, and I'm intently watching this one too, dreaming that someday I might do something so ambitious....
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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DutchGuyTom in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I did a little more trimming, and with the ram removed, and the fan from the GPU....I can test fit.
     
    Thoughts; the ethernet/usb section on the motherboard makes things an extremely tight fit, width wise. Also, I'll be using low profile ram, which was going to be a 'nice to have', but it's now a necessity. The pump-block combo idea is out the window, as I don't have enough verticle height. So a universal fit, low profile block will be going on.
     
    If you line the GPU up against the motherboard, there's a fair bit of space beneath it. Which is great for fitting my riser cable, and also this is where the power lead will run. I need to look into it that'll cause any interference, I should be fine if I'm careful.
     
    On the subject of GPU, the Barrow waterblock didn't fit, and would be incredibly difficult to modify so I'm going down the same route as the Dreamcast build; matching coolers on both the CPU and GPU.
     
    In the back(narrow) half of the case, were looking good too. There's enough space behind the radiator to mount my Pico, and in the space above, enough room for my pump. I'm going with the silent, 2600rpm version of the Alphacool DC-LT, and accompanying block because the top radiator fitting is the highest point in the loop, I may have to fit it lower down. 
     
    Or...put the pump in the bottom, and the Pico in the top. Means slightly more cabling and piping, but any thoughts?
     
    PICTURE TIME!!!
     

     

     

     

  5. Agree
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DutchGuyTom in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    The goal is to custom loop, both the CPU and the GPU. The first post would have told you that.
     
    A similar idea was floated in my Dreamcast thread, that I print a scaled up version of the case...Doesn't it go against the whole point of picking a certain case to build into? The idea of SFF is if you have a size goal, you change your internal plans to work with it...you don't just 'make the case bigger'. Not to mention the people that'd be intrigued by the finished product will definitely know the proportions of a PS2, and know straight away if anything is off.
     
     
    I implore you... do a few seconds of research before telling ME that I need to do some thinking...don't be that person.
     
    Two Google searches would have shown you the width of a PS2...and the width of a mini ITX board. Spoiler alert, it wouldn't work. And with ITX, the 24-pin connector, full size RAM, and PCIe slot are actually all detrimental features; An STX board gives me tons of flexibility when it comes to my packaging.

    I had a lot more positive support about my last ultra-SFF build, and that was just as ambitious in a lot of ways. I wonder what changed.

     
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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    @GDRRiley Cheers fella!
     
    I've got my pump and distribution block on order...once that arrives I can really start locking down my layout and where the piping will run.
     
    I still want to replace the plastic spine with a metal one, so that will be the next step after layout. Hopefully it'll make things easier to mount; I remember having issues tapping into the plastic on the Dreamcast, and here they'll literally be hanging off the standoffs ūüė¨¬†¬†
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    Ross Siggers reacted to GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    I can't wait to see this get closer to being done.
    let the madness continue
  8. Agree
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    The goal is to custom loop, both the CPU and the GPU. The first post would have told you that.
     
    A similar idea was floated in my Dreamcast thread, that I print a scaled up version of the case...Doesn't it go against the whole point of picking a certain case to build into? The idea of SFF is if you have a size goal, you change your internal plans to work with it...you don't just 'make the case bigger'. Not to mention the people that'd be intrigued by the finished product will definitely know the proportions of a PS2, and know straight away if anything is off.
     
     
    I implore you... do a few seconds of research before telling ME that I need to do some thinking...don't be that person.
     
    Two Google searches would have shown you the width of a PS2...and the width of a mini ITX board. Spoiler alert, it wouldn't work. And with ITX, the 24-pin connector, full size RAM, and PCIe slot are actually all detrimental features; An STX board gives me tons of flexibility when it comes to my packaging.

    I had a lot more positive support about my last ultra-SFF build, and that was just as ambitious in a lot of ways. I wonder what changed.

     
  9. Agree
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    The goal is to custom loop, both the CPU and the GPU. The first post would have told you that.
     
    A similar idea was floated in my Dreamcast thread, that I print a scaled up version of the case...Doesn't it go against the whole point of picking a certain case to build into? The idea of SFF is if you have a size goal, you change your internal plans to work with it...you don't just 'make the case bigger'. Not to mention the people that'd be intrigued by the finished product will definitely know the proportions of a PS2, and know straight away if anything is off.
     
     
    I implore you... do a few seconds of research before telling ME that I need to do some thinking...don't be that person.
     
    Two Google searches would have shown you the width of a PS2...and the width of a mini ITX board. Spoiler alert, it wouldn't work. And with ITX, the 24-pin connector, full size RAM, and PCIe slot are actually all detrimental features; An STX board gives me tons of flexibility when it comes to my packaging.

    I had a lot more positive support about my last ultra-SFF build, and that was just as ambitious in a lot of ways. I wonder what changed.

     
  10. Like
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I did a little more trimming, and with the ram removed, and the fan from the GPU....I can test fit.
     
    Thoughts; the ethernet/usb section on the motherboard makes things an extremely tight fit, width wise. Also, I'll be using low profile ram, which was going to be a 'nice to have', but it's now a necessity. The pump-block combo idea is out the window, as I don't have enough verticle height. So a universal fit, low profile block will be going on.
     
    If you line the GPU up against the motherboard, there's a fair bit of space beneath it. Which is great for fitting my riser cable, and also this is where the power lead will run. I need to look into it that'll cause any interference, I should be fine if I'm careful.
     
    On the subject of GPU, the Barrow waterblock didn't fit, and would be incredibly difficult to modify so I'm going down the same route as the Dreamcast build; matching coolers on both the CPU and GPU.
     
    In the back(narrow) half of the case, were looking good too. There's enough space behind the radiator to mount my Pico, and in the space above, enough room for my pump. I'm going with the silent, 2600rpm version of the Alphacool DC-LT, and accompanying block because the top radiator fitting is the highest point in the loop, I may have to fit it lower down. 
     
    Or...put the pump in the bottom, and the Pico in the top. Means slightly more cabling and piping, but any thoughts?
     
    PICTURE TIME!!!
     

     

     

     

  11. Like
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I did a little more trimming, and with the ram removed, and the fan from the GPU....I can test fit.
     
    Thoughts; the ethernet/usb section on the motherboard makes things an extremely tight fit, width wise. Also, I'll be using low profile ram, which was going to be a 'nice to have', but it's now a necessity. The pump-block combo idea is out the window, as I don't have enough verticle height. So a universal fit, low profile block will be going on.
     
    If you line the GPU up against the motherboard, there's a fair bit of space beneath it. Which is great for fitting my riser cable, and also this is where the power lead will run. I need to look into it that'll cause any interference, I should be fine if I'm careful.
     
    On the subject of GPU, the Barrow waterblock didn't fit, and would be incredibly difficult to modify so I'm going down the same route as the Dreamcast build; matching coolers on both the CPU and GPU.
     
    In the back(narrow) half of the case, were looking good too. There's enough space behind the radiator to mount my Pico, and in the space above, enough room for my pump. I'm going with the silent, 2600rpm version of the Alphacool DC-LT, and accompanying block because the top radiator fitting is the highest point in the loop, I may have to fit it lower down. 
     
    Or...put the pump in the bottom, and the Pico in the top. Means slightly more cabling and piping, but any thoughts?
     
    PICTURE TIME!!!
     

     

     

     

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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So my 200W Pico arrived....it's thiccc front to back...but strangely, narrower than the 160W item in my Dreamcast. I also bought the add2psu for it, not pictured. Which means even though it's designed to directly plug into a 24-pin motherboard, I'll be able to run it standalone.
     

     

     
     
    Also, the heart of the build also arrived; my NexXxos radiator. It's adorable!! And seems like a quality piece. Now to start refining my cuts, and planning out exactly how it's going to sit.
     
     

     

     

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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from BiG StroOnZ in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    £££**KACHING**£££

    GRAPHICS CARD PURCHASED. I think this one part cost the same as all the components of my last build put together... Although I knew this build wasn't going to be as cheap, so that's okay I suppose. It was on eBay which is why I didn't share the details, but now I can happily do that

    It's a Palit 2060 'StormX'. Standard 6gb of memory, but like I mentioned before, it's the only 'slot length' RTX card I've found. All the others I was looking at were ITX classified, but halfway between that and full size. Even better, all the I/O is single slot in height, which wasn't essential for this build, but it's a tidy nice-to-have feature. According to the advert, this one came from a prebuilt systems, and despite there being quite a few websites listing it for sale, none have it stocked because it's discontinued.
     
    As for cooler, I found a second hand Barrow ITX waterblock, lsited as 2060/2070. I've asked for specifics and more photos, so hopefully that'll do the job for the cooling side of things, and save me a few pennies off a new one. Looks in good shape, so I hope that works out.


     

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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    £££**KACHING**£££

    GRAPHICS CARD PURCHASED. I think this one part cost the same as all the components of my last build put together... Although I knew this build wasn't going to be as cheap, so that's okay I suppose. It was on eBay which is why I didn't share the details, but now I can happily do that

    It's a Palit 2060 'StormX'. Standard 6gb of memory, but like I mentioned before, it's the only 'slot length' RTX card I've found. All the others I was looking at were ITX classified, but halfway between that and full size. Even better, all the I/O is single slot in height, which wasn't essential for this build, but it's a tidy nice-to-have feature. According to the advert, this one came from a prebuilt systems, and despite there being quite a few websites listing it for sale, none have it stocked because it's discontinued.
     
    As for cooler, I found a second hand Barrow ITX waterblock, lsited as 2060/2070. I've asked for specifics and more photos, so hopefully that'll do the job for the cooling side of things, and save me a few pennies off a new one. Looks in good shape, so I hope that works out.


     

  15. Like
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    £££**KACHING**£££

    GRAPHICS CARD PURCHASED. I think this one part cost the same as all the components of my last build put together... Although I knew this build wasn't going to be as cheap, so that's okay I suppose. It was on eBay which is why I didn't share the details, but now I can happily do that

    It's a Palit 2060 'StormX'. Standard 6gb of memory, but like I mentioned before, it's the only 'slot length' RTX card I've found. All the others I was looking at were ITX classified, but halfway between that and full size. Even better, all the I/O is single slot in height, which wasn't essential for this build, but it's a tidy nice-to-have feature. According to the advert, this one came from a prebuilt systems, and despite there being quite a few websites listing it for sale, none have it stocked because it's discontinued.
     
    As for cooler, I found a second hand Barrow ITX waterblock, lsited as 2060/2070. I've asked for specifics and more photos, so hopefully that'll do the job for the cooling side of things, and save me a few pennies off a new one. Looks in good shape, so I hope that works out.


     

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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I bit the bullet and bought the radiator I wanted, the Alphacool NexXxos UT60 penta(5) fan version.
     
    I've also started hacking away at the internal structure of the PS2; Dremel, pliers etc, at the moment it's not a very exact art. And if I'm honest, I see myself taking as much of the middle layer out as possible, and putting in a metal sheet to replace it, for more rigidity.
     
    Amazingly, I've managed to find a 2060 that's  REALLY SMALL...only as long as the pci-e slot(145mm). I didn't think there were any RTX cards that size on the market, but apparently I was wrong. And despite this card not having any official water cooling accessories, it looks like Bykski make a block, that should fit it at least some of the mounting holes. That's going to be interesting to work out eh! 
     
    The abhorrent, money spending stage has begun in earnest ūüėāūüėāūüėā
     
     
  17. Funny
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DutchGuyTom in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I bit the bullet and bought the radiator I wanted, the Alphacool NexXxos UT60 penta(5) fan version.
     
    I've also started hacking away at the internal structure of the PS2; Dremel, pliers etc, at the moment it's not a very exact art. And if I'm honest, I see myself taking as much of the middle layer out as possible, and putting in a metal sheet to replace it, for more rigidity.
     
    Amazingly, I've managed to find a 2060 that's  REALLY SMALL...only as long as the pci-e slot(145mm). I didn't think there were any RTX cards that size on the market, but apparently I was wrong. And despite this card not having any official water cooling accessories, it looks like Bykski make a block, that should fit it at least some of the mounting holes. That's going to be interesting to work out eh! 
     
    The abhorrent, money spending stage has begun in earnest ūüėāūüėāūüėā
     
     
  18. Like
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from GDRRiley in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I bit the bullet and bought the radiator I wanted, the Alphacool NexXxos UT60 penta(5) fan version.
     
    I've also started hacking away at the internal structure of the PS2; Dremel, pliers etc, at the moment it's not a very exact art. And if I'm honest, I see myself taking as much of the middle layer out as possible, and putting in a metal sheet to replace it, for more rigidity.
     
    Amazingly, I've managed to find a 2060 that's  REALLY SMALL...only as long as the pci-e slot(145mm). I didn't think there were any RTX cards that size on the market, but apparently I was wrong. And despite this card not having any official water cooling accessories, it looks like Bykski make a block, that should fit it at least some of the mounting holes. That's going to be interesting to work out eh! 
     
    The abhorrent, money spending stage has begun in earnest ūüėāūüėāūüėā
     
     
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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I did browse parts for a while back, but put this project on the backburner due to parts cost...£100+ a piece, for the GPU waterblock, CPU block, and radiator? Shit, I'm tentative on dropping so much cash at the mock-up stage.
     
    But I did find a solution to my worries regarding the cpu block; I was originally planning on using an Eisbaer LT, a pump/block combo with the ports on the side, not the top. Turns out that even though it's a low profile option, it's still too tall. I wanted the block to be the same height or near as possible to the ram sticks. Without using a separate pump and reservoir, that's very hard.
     
    but I had a revelation....AIO's. They often have compact blocks, whilst maintaining a pump. They also often have side mounted, swivel fittings depending on model, so that's a bonus as well. I ended up picking up a used Gen.1 H100i for mock-up and... potential dismantling ūüėĀ I figured anything capable of pushing a 240rad should in theory be capable of handling my loop. And on the used market it only cost me ¬£30, a fraction of what the Eisbaer would have.
     
    hopefully I'm onto something, as going off product specifications it's already 7mm shallower than the Eisbaer. It sits just above the ram, which does mean I'll need to clearance a hole in the internals of the PS2. But this is much more preferable than the previous plan ūüĎĆūüŹĽ
     
     

     

     

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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from Belac F in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    @Belac F Hmmm interesting. I'll have to look into that, and water blocks of course. I think I'll want to have a little shaped bump in the mesh at the rear of the case, juuuust to give myself a little leeway length wise.
     
    I need to get myself sorted and buy the radiator, I can't really mock up much without it, and unfortunately it's not cheap! Like £80....you can get 360 rads cheaper than that! 
  21. Informative
    Ross Siggers reacted to Belac F in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    I found an rtx 2070 mini from gigabyte, same size as the 2060.
     
    https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Graphics-Card/GV-N2070IX-8GC#kf
     
    I currently use the 2060 version in my xbox build. Its a little loud but it gets the job done.
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    Ross Siggers got a reaction from DJ46 in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I always liked the PS2 design, where it looked like slats around the edge... But it wasn't actually. Well, I'm not going to get trapped in the same thermal corner as I was with the Dreamcast, so I decided to hollow out slots in the top of the console. This part is only a vanity cover so not too structural, and I'll be honest it's still surprisingly rigid after trimming. Cuts will be tidied up at a later date. 
     

     

     
    A couple of my Noctua fans also came in. This gives me an idea of how far through the central spine the radiator will protrude, and therefore, if I have to mount the motherboard against the central partition, or inverse. Looks like it'll have to be inverse! 
     

     

     
    Obviously more detailed measurements and layout choices will be made soon, I'm also having to reconsider my graphics card, not for power but for size. The cards I was looking at come in mini configurations, but for some manufacturers they're still not that mini. To fit in the PS2 they have to be 170mm absolute max... Which limits me to the Zotac 1080 and the Gigabyte 2060. 
     
  23. Like
    Ross Siggers got a reaction from Belac F in SFF2: Electric Bugaloo... The PlayStation 2 build!   
    So I always liked the PS2 design, where it looked like slats around the edge... But it wasn't actually. Well, I'm not going to get trapped in the same thermal corner as I was with the Dreamcast, so I decided to hollow out slots in the top of the console. This part is only a vanity cover so not too structural, and I'll be honest it's still surprisingly rigid after trimming. Cuts will be tidied up at a later date. 
     

     

     
    A couple of my Noctua fans also came in. This gives me an idea of how far through the central spine the radiator will protrude, and therefore, if I have to mount the motherboard against the central partition, or inverse. Looks like it'll have to be inverse! 
     

     

     
    Obviously more detailed measurements and layout choices will be made soon, I'm also having to reconsider my graphics card, not for power but for size. The cards I was looking at come in mini configurations, but for some manufacturers they're still not that mini. To fit in the PS2 they have to be 170mm absolute max... Which limits me to the Zotac 1080 and the Gigabyte 2060. 
     
  24. Funny
    Ross Siggers reacted to Fasauceome in Help a broken man   
    I think he's just fucking with you
  25. Agree
    Ross Siggers reacted to Hackentosher in Help a broken man   
    Ya know, I'm not proud of it, but my first build contained an i3 3225 and a Corsair h80i... It didn't need it lol. However, 8 years later, that cooler is still cooking. The 4670k It was cooling will probably never run again, but I'll keep the cooler for a NAS or maybe some kind of electronics project later. My point is you can invest in some parts now and carry them with you into upgrades later. Perhaps not the wisest use of budget, but it's not necessarily a waste in the long run.
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