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    bowrilla got a reaction from MarvintheParrot in Vertical CPU waterblock   
    Maybe. Depends on block and CPU. Probably not that much. I did the same with my Supremacy Evo block on my Zen+ chip and it's like single digit range, might be a bit more with Zen2 or Zen3. People will probably have already reported enough experiences on the web.
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    bowrilla reacted to Sakuriru in Is JavaScript Worth it?   
    The reason Javascript's early adoption was so poor was because it was new language without a whole lot of new features, and also because of the lack of industry-accepted standardization meant that everyone was trying to their own things and push the envelope of what you can do in a web browser. When JS couldn't do it, they'd find something that could, build their own, roll their own, or use some other technology (see JScript, for instance).
     
    This is what leads to browser incompatibilities and scripts crashing. Browsers weren't mature either and back then it used to be an all in one integrated stack. Really though imo the web in general was a complete mess for a good while since it originally took off in the 90's. But that's just because stable technology couldn't keep up with innovation.
     
    The Javascript you knew is nothing like the Javascript of today, and while it may have the same syntax rules and quirks, actual web programming with it is far more complicated than you could have dreamed up in the 90's, but also much, much better with the rise of the MVC design pattern.  Most websites these days are being written using front-end frameworks like React or Vue. Modern web development requires a massive development stack and if you were interested in getting into it the learning curve is high. Not just because how so fundamentally different Javascript is than other programming languages, but because trying to solve the web problem is just that hard. People expect more and more out of web pages and developers will continue to keep delivering the content people crave. A web page that's just text and hyperlinks won't cut it anymore.
     
    The question isn't really whether or not Javascript is worth it, you don't have a choice if you're developing web technology.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Mj_ in how bad is it for laptop to play games on it at 90+ temp both CPU GPU   
    Well, it's not ideal but it's okay. It might degrade over time but given that it's 5 years old now, it will probably be obsolete before it's actually giving up. Laptop components are designed for their higher operating temps and they do have protection measures built in before they will suffer damage.
     
    A repaste is a very good idea. Even new laptops will often benefit from this. Higher temps and some throttling is to be expected though with an XPS - it is not intended for gaming use, it's aiming for professionals that do need some power at times but also want a small-ish and light-ish ultrabook form factor.
     
    I repasted my XPS 2019 model after 4-ish months shaving off ~10K alone and I undervolt it with throttlestop (quite a hassle with the BIOS versions). I don't have a problem with it running well in the 80s for prolonged usage.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Imannudein in Bykski CPU Block problem   
    So not mounting it correctly.
    viscosity is way too low for this.
     
    Which was already figured out: block made contact with VRM heatsink.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Mister Woof in I7-8700K gets pinned at 100c on a NZXT Kraken X73 AIO At STOCK!!!!   
    Instant heat spike to 100°C is pretty much definitely a not correctly mounted cooler. If it was a pump issue, the water volume would delay this effect. 
     
    Does the block collide with other components? Correct backplate? Screws evenly tightened? Any plastic removed? Thermal paste applied?
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Bombastinator in I7-8700K gets pinned at 100c on a NZXT Kraken X73 AIO At STOCK!!!!   
    Instant heat spike to 100°C is pretty much definitely a not correctly mounted cooler. If it was a pump issue, the water volume would delay this effect. 
     
    Does the block collide with other components? Correct backplate? Screws evenly tightened? Any plastic removed? Thermal paste applied?
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Imannudein in Bykski CPU Block problem   
    Well, you could remove the heatsink and modify it with an angle grinder/dremel ... if your dare. But this blocks seems to be poorly designed ignoring compatibility aspects. Usually those blocks are a lot smaller. I guess they tried to fill the whole area as much as possible and ignored keeping some clearance buffer.
    It'll be fine.
    👍
    Well, CPU temps will probably drop noticeably but I wouldn't expect like massive gains here. The biggest effect would probably less noise as long as your fans are good. I would definitely add it just to have less clutter and a more tidy setup. A 280mm radiator in a custom loop is good (>90% the surface of a 360mm radiator), sure, 2x280mm would be great but not necessary.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Imannudein in Bykski CPU Block problem   
    Inlet and Outlet were correct on the CPU block? Inlet is through the jet plate (bottom port). GPU blocks are less sensitive in this regard, CPU blocks however are very sensitive and performance can tank.
     
    Thermal paste spread looks pretty messy especially on the GPU (How much did you use?!). The CPU looks very thick. That could be a sign of bad to no contact. Are you sure the CPU block does not collide with any component? It's very big and there are enough components around to collide with preventing the block from making proper contact (even the most left memory slot is apparently partly covered by the block).
     
    The black "blocks" are the chokes aka coils. They can get warm but usually not to a point at which they'd need massive cooling. You could try and repurpose the thermal pads from the stock cooler but if it's too thick you might warp the PCB  slightly preventing the mosfets behind the chokes from making proper contact - those need cooling.
     
    P.S.: The batter water is definitely distilled water and not something else? A while ago someone accidently had an accidic solution as battery water.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from FirzaVista in Cpu temp reached 38 - 50 at 1300 RPM. Is it normal?   
    No need for being sorry. Most people were a bit startled about that at some point. Just make sure it stays cool enough under load. Sub 80 under load is good and there's not that much to be gained from having it sub 70 or even sub 60. 
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    bowrilla got a reaction from FirzaVista in Cpu temp reached 38 - 50 at 1300 RPM. Is it normal?   
    Ryzen is known for rather big idle temp jumps. Some background process kicks in and makes the temps go up. Nothing to worry. 
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Rybo in Cpu temp reached 38 - 50 at 1300 RPM. Is it normal?   
    Ryzen is known for rather big idle temp jumps. Some background process kicks in and makes the temps go up. Nothing to worry. 
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    bowrilla got a reaction from NLamki in Cleaning Radiator   
    Radiators aren't picky with what you use to clean. There's no risk of sucking in small components (unlike with other parts). Just be careful not to handle it too roughly or you might damage it (ranging from optical damages like bent fins to potential leaks)
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    bowrilla got a reaction from ChaoticChaosx in 3900x worth upgrading to 5000 Series?   
    1080p, mate, 1080p. You'll be CPU limited with a 2080 as well. This is why CPU benchmarks are done at 1080p. And giving an overal figure is very inaccurate since CPU impact on gaming performance varies dramatically between titles.
     
    And who buys a 3080 to game at 1080p? That does not make any sense. 1440p or 4k, that's what those cards are intented to run. 
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    bowrilla reacted to JohanKjeldahl7 in 3900x worth upgrading to 5000 Series?   
    I completely agree with you, those cards are intented to run very high resolutions on very high settings. Using a number for 1080p from a bottleneck calculator sure was not the best idea and I have learned from this mistake. In the future, I will first ask what games the person is playing on which resolution and try to find user experience for this games instead of using a bottleneck calculator. Thank you for pointing these things out.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from frozensun in do I need to change thermal paste on 3900X?   
    Question is: was it mounted already for a prolonged time or was it basically at the time you've tried mounting it? If the paste is fresh and it wasn't fully mounted, it's okay (personally did that many times, I like to wiggle it on top a bit when doing that), if you've already had it mounted for weeks or longer, then you should have changed. In the latter case paste was probably already spread out thin and dried out a bit. The result could be some air pockets which is exactly what you'd want to avoid by using thermal paste.
     
    That being said, your temps are pretty okay and I would not expect anything beyond maybe (!) very low single digit gains. Zen2 runs hot and after all it's a 12 core CPU. I would personally stress test with Prime95 to determine the thermal limit of the setup. Anything below mid 80s is good, if it runs hotter, you might want/need to tweak some things. Since Prime95 is absolute torture you will not reach those thermals during regular use.
     
    Q-tips?! Don't! That cotton might just leave you with some fluff in the paste. You can a) just make a dot or a pattern on the IHS and let the cooler spread it out or b) use some plastic or cardboard to spread it out thin.
     
    Foam pads are being used to apply liquid metal.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from LordHiler in Custom Water Cooling Advice?   
    You don't throw it away, you just replace it and put the old one in a box in case you sell it at some point.
    Enough? Yes. But more is better (to some extent at least). 
     
    Well, you can but they are pretty noisy and overall not that great. They have good static pressure at max RPM but their max RPM is 2200min^-1.
     
    Well, certainly you will reduce temperatures which can give you a bit more OC headroom but how much and whether it is significant or not cannot be answered upfront. GPUs usually scale well temperature-wise in terms of their boost but that's lmostly low single digit percentages to be gained. AMD's PBO is also good in scaling with temperatures but again there are not huge gains to be acchieved. Manual OC headroom, well that depends on the silicon you have.
    Probably not more crazy than the rest of us.
     
    Well, Jay's builds are a decent starting point. The EK Configurator can help you find compatible products.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from TheNaitsyrk in I need a Case.   
    My point exactly. 
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Abdullah Bhutta in I need a Case.   
    My point exactly. 
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    bowrilla got a reaction from SpiderMan in PCI4 lane count with PCI3 devices   
    No, not working like that (at least not automatically). Ryzen has 24 CPU lanes: 16x for the GPU, 4x for the first/primary NVMe M.2 slot and 4x for the the chipset uplink, which handles everything like additional USB ports, SATA ports, ethernet ports and additional PCIe slots (potentially up to 16 additional lanes here). The catch is, that those PCIe lanes WILL need to go through the uplink/connection of CPU and chipset (just like EVERYTHIGN else that's connected through the chipset). So all data that needs to go to the CPU will share those 4x lanes between chipset and CPU. No way around it.
     
    Some mainboards offer PCIe bifurcation or some sort of onboard switching. With that you can split the 16x GPU lanes into 8x + 8x for exmaple or 8x + 4x + 4x (or 4 time 4x). Obviously this will potentially impact your GPU performance.
     
    Nope, unfortunately not. Electrically PCIe gen3 and gen4 are identical. It's just that PCIe gen4 can use more bandwith. Obviously with bifurcation of PCIe gen4 16x into 8x + 8x  you will not suffer such a big if any impact in GPU performance compared to PCIe gen3. BUT your GPU will need to be PCIe gen4 compatible. After all you will end up with only 8 lanes.
     
    It's sort of the same with ehternet speeds or internet speeds: it goes through the same cable but different standards offer different speeds (for various reasons).
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    bowrilla reacted to For Science! in Advice on loop planning   
    More radiators is better, especially for multi component loops. The Define C is a tight fit for most things, but I think you should be able to get front and rear radiators in, you can see various builds in the C-series case in my signature.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from OCNewbee in 3 120mm fans or 3 140mm fans   
    That's so definitely off topic and niche that I can't come up with any reason why someone would just throw in this irrelevant information. While the basic information is right (it depends on the fan), coming up with some niche server fan is just entirely beyond the scope of this thread and beyond regular desktop pcs that this remark is just pointless.
     
    Of course, a good 120mm fan outperforms a bad 140mm fan. But 2 fans of comparable quality intended for similar use cases, the 140mm is the better choice.
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    bowrilla got a reaction from small guy64 in Best way to hanlde differnt size fittings.   
    You're not making sense. What size are you talking about, the thread size the fittings screw into or the tube size? And what kind of block for a custom loop does not have standard G1/4" threads for basically every fitting you can think of?
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    bowrilla got a reaction from TVwazhere in Looking for case with quad 140mm fans support   
    Meshify 2 XL. A case that fits a single 560mm radiator is ... rare and absolutely niche. I have no idea why you'd want/need 2x420mm. 2x480mm would only be ~2.1% smaller, but it would give you a lot more options.
     
    Other options:
    Raijintek Eris Evo
     
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    bowrilla got a reaction from GhostRoadieBL in AIO vs Custom loop temp theory   
    It has little influence. As long as it flows and is enough to overcome some restrictions like jet plates (if your block has these) then it's basically fine. 5-7K more or less is not a big thing unless you want to push to the absolute limit.
     
    I did my own testing (because der8auer's data raises some questions; his flow rate is unexplainably low at all times for the kind of pump he has, the reading must be either wrong or has some unit mishap, it's not GPM though and GPH is unlikely either) and the results (for my loop) are pretty obvious: flowrate has minimal influence. Between 100% pump speed and 25% pump speed (range of ~4x the flow rate between 168.9l and 41.5l) the maximum corrected difference was ~6K at 100% fan speed. Dropping the fan speed by half to 50% reduced difference to 3K. 
     
    Some random Windows process popping up in the background and hogging some resources sometimes has a bigger difference. Keep in mind, my data was the result of 30mins Prime95 runs. A very very unrealistic load. Under every day loads the difference will most likely be smaller.
     
    See data and discussion in this thread:
     
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    bowrilla got a reaction from Opossum in Help with CSS Responsive layout   
    "Ctrl + Shift + I" and then "Ctrl + Shift + M" ... welcome to Chrome's (and Firefox's) dev tools to simulate other resolutions, devices and aspect ratios.
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