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    Luscious got a reaction from Jean-Nicholas in NVIDIA pretends to care about gamers.   
    This is going to be a long rant. I'm gonna take a different approach on this as someone who does F@H as well as gaming. I got involved with the project maybe 5-6 years ago after following it for over a decade earlier and have a rig running 24/7 with four GPU's.
     
    The cards I have are water-cooled 980Ti's. These were priced at $800/each back when I bought them with the air-cooled variants $200-300 less. So when most users dropped $500-600 on a top-of-the-line GPU for their gaming rig I was spending $3200 - that's quite a sizeable investment.
     
    Of course the other reason I justified my purchase was 4-way SLI (still a thing at the time) and 4K performance. Driver choice was critical here, but the version I stuck with showed almost linear performance scaling across 1-2-3-4 cards in more than one game. So the argument for having multiple GPU's in a box had more than one use case.
     
    I should mention that I don't do and have never done mining. All my non-gaming GPU activity goes towards F@H. I should also mention as well that electricity/heating for me is paid for and does not factor into anything.
     
    Here's were things began to get "sour" for me. I can remember almost to the day when the same water-cooled 1080TI variant of the card I had was selling for the same $800... only to spike in price to $1600 just a few months later. That's what the 2018 crypto boom/bust achieved.
     
    Come the 2000 series and the prices for the 2080TI stayed at the $1600 price point. Sure, I could have bought four but my outlay would have been over $6000 - a crazy amount to spend on GPU's. Worse, the Titan V that came out after had a sticker price of $2500... each!!!
     
    The Titan V wasn't a mining or folding card - yet it could do both alongside gaming. The irony is that for a gaming card it was absurdly overpriced, meaning if you bought one, you absolutely raped the thing for whatever it could do.
     
    Now look at the price of a water-cooled 3090 - $1730 for EVGA's XC3 Ultra Hydro copper card. Four of them would set me back almost $7000... and yet I cannot even purchase ONE!!! It has been out of stock since it's announcement and since it's launch and is still out of stock to this day. It is, by the definition of the word, a paper product.
     
    How could a "mining card" possibly help me??? Well I could have just a single 3090 installed for gaming/4K and have three dedicated mining cards doing F@H. That would leave three 3090's on the table for others to enjoy. Similarly if I had a dedicated 4U box set up for F@H I could slap mining cards in those, since that's all they would do, rather than hog a bunch of "gaming" cards.
     
    If nVidia is trying to help the situation, they are THREE YEARS TOO LATE. If something like this would have been done in 2018 we could have seen three important things happen: (1) GPU prices remain at more acceptable prices, (2) a viable new alternative for those passionate about F@H/mining, and (3) more stock left available for gamers. What you see today is what happens when big corporations sit on their asses and let problems like this snowball until they become next to impossible to remedy.
     
    Now I really am concerned how I will upgrade my system if one (or more) of my cards bites the dust, since they are getting close to the end of their lifetime. I cannot get a new card, there;s no way I'll find four identical used ones, and who's to say the 3000 series successor won't suffer a similar fate. AMD and nVidia are in a world of hurt if today's shortages continue.
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    Luscious got a reaction from CalintzJerevinan in Unboxing Counterfeit LTT Merch   
    When your underwear is missing the "cookie slot" LOL
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    Luscious got a reaction from FakeKGB in Unboxing Counterfeit LTT Merch   
    When your underwear is missing the "cookie slot" LOL
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    Luscious reacted to Radium_Angel in Unboxing Counterfeit LTT Merch   
    You know you are successful when the knockoffs appear.
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    Luscious got a reaction from TheBahrbarian in NVIDIA pretends to care about gamers.   
    This is going to be a long rant. I'm gonna take a different approach on this as someone who does F@H as well as gaming. I got involved with the project maybe 5-6 years ago after following it for over a decade earlier and have a rig running 24/7 with four GPU's.
     
    The cards I have are water-cooled 980Ti's. These were priced at $800/each back when I bought them with the air-cooled variants $200-300 less. So when most users dropped $500-600 on a top-of-the-line GPU for their gaming rig I was spending $3200 - that's quite a sizeable investment.
     
    Of course the other reason I justified my purchase was 4-way SLI (still a thing at the time) and 4K performance. Driver choice was critical here, but the version I stuck with showed almost linear performance scaling across 1-2-3-4 cards in more than one game. So the argument for having multiple GPU's in a box had more than one use case.
     
    I should mention that I don't do and have never done mining. All my non-gaming GPU activity goes towards F@H. I should also mention as well that electricity/heating for me is paid for and does not factor into anything.
     
    Here's were things began to get "sour" for me. I can remember almost to the day when the same water-cooled 1080TI variant of the card I had was selling for the same $800... only to spike in price to $1600 just a few months later. That's what the 2018 crypto boom/bust achieved.
     
    Come the 2000 series and the prices for the 2080TI stayed at the $1600 price point. Sure, I could have bought four but my outlay would have been over $6000 - a crazy amount to spend on GPU's. Worse, the Titan V that came out after had a sticker price of $2500... each!!!
     
    The Titan V wasn't a mining or folding card - yet it could do both alongside gaming. The irony is that for a gaming card it was absurdly overpriced, meaning if you bought one, you absolutely raped the thing for whatever it could do.
     
    Now look at the price of a water-cooled 3090 - $1730 for EVGA's XC3 Ultra Hydro copper card. Four of them would set me back almost $7000... and yet I cannot even purchase ONE!!! It has been out of stock since it's announcement and since it's launch and is still out of stock to this day. It is, by the definition of the word, a paper product.
     
    How could a "mining card" possibly help me??? Well I could have just a single 3090 installed for gaming/4K and have three dedicated mining cards doing F@H. That would leave three 3090's on the table for others to enjoy. Similarly if I had a dedicated 4U box set up for F@H I could slap mining cards in those, since that's all they would do, rather than hog a bunch of "gaming" cards.
     
    If nVidia is trying to help the situation, they are THREE YEARS TOO LATE. If something like this would have been done in 2018 we could have seen three important things happen: (1) GPU prices remain at more acceptable prices, (2) a viable new alternative for those passionate about F@H/mining, and (3) more stock left available for gamers. What you see today is what happens when big corporations sit on their asses and let problems like this snowball until they become next to impossible to remedy.
     
    Now I really am concerned how I will upgrade my system if one (or more) of my cards bites the dust, since they are getting close to the end of their lifetime. I cannot get a new card, there;s no way I'll find four identical used ones, and who's to say the 3000 series successor won't suffer a similar fate. AMD and nVidia are in a world of hurt if today's shortages continue.
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    Luscious reacted to atxcyclist in NVIDIA pretends to care about gamers.   
    As a gamer I just want one single new card every 5-6 years, that's it. I'm not greedy and many others that game have an upgrade cycle similar to my own. If nothing is done, miners being able to justify paying more for cards than gamers will because they're profiting, is eventually going to kill PC gaming. Why would game studios bother making newer and better games when the general gamer cannot get or afford a graphics card?
     
    The only real solution is regulation, and my hope is that large governments make the crypto exchanges illegal and crash the whole system. It's essentially a huge tax evasion and money-laundering scheme anyway, they have justification.
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    Luscious got a reaction from Lurick in Reacting to xQc's FAIL PC Build   
    Nothing against him personally, but if people are THIS DUMB then I should have a quadruple PhD and a 80 foot tall 24K gold statue erected in my name for how to put together a PC. That's not saying I've built more PC's than Linus or can churn them out quicker - how fast and how many is not the metric to go by. But there is a fundamental thing you need to get a grasp of that's called following instructions and LEARNING.
     
    I remember my first build, back before many reading this were even born. What did I do when I got stuck? I called the store where I bought it from for troubleshooting and got help over the phone. That PC (a Windows 95 box) ran solid for 6 years with just the occasional upgrade to RAM and storage to keep it relevant.
     
    Fast forward roughly 20 years to 2016 when I built my SECOND system ever. Forget basic. Forget cheap. Forget simple. Now I'm doing custom fabrication, ordering parts from 3 mod shops from around the globe, doing my own wiring all in a case that cannot even be purchased anymore that's powder coated to order requiring full hand assembly and custom water cooled with 5 rads and 30 fans.
     
    Sure, I could have done a build log (I have all the photos) - it would have taken 12 months and 30 pages to complete. You wouldn't have stuck around for that, but the resulting $12,000 masterpiece would surely impress.
     
    So how did I get from noob to wizard??? It's called experience. Not the kind of experience you get from doing something repetitively, but from watching how other people do it and learning along the way. You research the product, check the spec sheet, read the manual and look at reviews. You concentrate on the finer details, the things that matter and watch out for bogus claims. A lot of my knowledge isn't even from PC building, just stuff that I happened to come across along the way while researching IT. It involves investing time - something I can understand if there are people who may not have it. I have a drive and a passion to learn, be it how to attach a certain device or how to use a particular hand tool. Again, you can watch and learn by following others who are doing the same.
     
    I'm not advocating others follow in my footsteps, but there's a lot to be gained by "helping yourself". Something so simple as reading, following instructions and using a bit of common sense and patience can go a LONG way. When you can invest your time in yourself, doing stuff like building a PC becomes SO EASY.
     
    Best of luck to all of you out there building a PC for the first time. It really isn't that difficult. And if you need help, don't be afraid to ask for it.
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    Luscious reacted to just_dave in Fixing Apple's GOOD Engineering   
    I am searching for a good laptop since October and basically all Windows laptops reach more than 50°C on the bottom side under load. I ended up buying the M1 MBA, but for example this other laptop I considered from Acer also heats to dangerous temps:

    I actually bought this laptop and returned it after 4 RMAs:

    As you can see, it also reaches over 50°C
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    Luscious reacted to Tumleren in Fixing My $10,000 Mistake - Whonnock 3 Deployment   
    This video explains it pretty detailed:
    Basically the drives were fast enough h that the CPU couldn't keep up and the drives would time out while waiting for the CPU, causing intermittently slow speeds and crashes in premiere pro 
     
     
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    Luscious reacted to AlexTheGreatish in Triple Graphics Card Laptop? Yes. - Asus CES 2021 Laptops   
    We crack it open in our review......
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    Luscious reacted to colonel_mortis in Images not displaying when using FF browser   
    FIrefox 56 is more than 3 years old (September 2017), and has a number of security vulnerabilities. The standard for most websites these days is to support the latest and previous versions of major browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge and Safari), and not to actively support any older; I am slightly more forgiving, but 3 years old is unreasonable. You say it's not broken, but web standards have progressed a lot since then - there have been 3 new javascript standards, and a new CSS standard, as well as a bunch of living standard changes, so sites that are built for today's web will not function correctly for you - LTT may be the first you have encountered, but it will not be the last.
     
    The forum moves forwards, adding new functionality (such as the image lazy loading that seems to be causing the issue here), updating libraries to get new features or security updates, and removing legacy code that is hard to maintain or that adds unnecessary complexity. It is not fair for us to hold back on all of those simply to support an arbitrarily long tail of people who refuse to update their browser - if we don't draw the line at 3 years old, I don't know where we could. You are in a group of <0.5% of the visitors to the forum on really old FF versions, and I suspect that a sizeable chunk of the others in that group are bots that are pretending to be people. Honestly, I'm surprised that it works as well as it does.
     
    Even if I wanted to support this, that change would have to be made by the forum software devs because it is part of the core forum software and not a custom LTT addition, and there is no way that I would be able to convince them that it is worth their effort to support a 3 year old browser.
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    Luscious got a reaction from SpiderMan in RTX 3090 SLI - We Tried so Hard to Love It   
    I had a similar power problem with a CM V1200. My 4-way 980Ti system pulls exactly 1140W from the wall under load or just a little over 1000W actual PSU load. For a 1200W PSU to crap it's pants at 1000W is a massive fail - shame on you Cooler Master.
     
    After figuring out the cause of my system problem I unceremoniously dumped that POS and installed an EVGA 1600W T2. Runs like a champ without a hiccup and have not had a single power problem ever since. Two thumbs up for EVGA.
     
    Regarding SLI - having multiple graphics cards in a system has more benefits than just gaming. Being able to pool the VRAM together can have benefits when running simulations. If your software allows for configuring additional graphics cards that can also take advantage. Maybe you are in a situation where you need to transcode a massive library of video footage but don't want to tie up your main GPU for multitasking, or maybe you want to do work and game at the same time.
     
    In my case F@H is the main reason I have 4 cards, since even when I am folding on three I can still game. Then when I am not gaming I can push all four and have it run overnight as well. It's all water cooled with massive radiators with lots of fans so temperatures aren't an issue. The case I am using (CaseLabs Mercury S8 + pedestal) is also perfectly suited for exactly such a multi-card setup.
     
    I would be hesitant about dropping in four water cooled 3090's if I was building today though, just because you will definitely need a second PSU to even get it to work, and finding a case that can house a 2nd full size PSU and accommodate radiators is tough (RIP CaseLabs). Four 3080's though would be doable with a single 1600W unit if the cards have just 2x8pin.
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    Luscious got a reaction from Jason 57 in The Herd Mentality PC   
    That HAF XB is actually a pretty decent case if you're only doing air cooling, although you can mount a 240/280 AIO in the front of the thing. The fact that it puts all the extra gear UNDERNEATH the mobo tray makes cable organization great and lets you hide stuff nicely. It's also a great presentation case since it lets you show off your mobo up top from all sides. Take the panels off and you now have a stackable test bench. Stack multiple cases on top of each other and you can even have a small mining/folding rig or separate media/work server set up in a corner of your room.
     
    It's a very unique and versatile case - probably reason why it gets all the thumbs up. Good job CM for keeping it on sale!
     
    Let's not also forget that it's a HORIZONTAL motherboard layout - important if you have two really heavy GPU's in there, your board doesn't have reinforced PCIE slots or you just happen to transport the thing around a lot. Keeping your motherboard horizontal has it's advantages
     
    The biggest drawback with the HAF XB is if you want to do serious water cooling, and this is where cases like the CaseLabs S8S had it beat, since that one gave you fan/rad mounts in the roof and also downstairs with an add-on pedestal. I have the larger S8 with pedestal and after 6 years of use I can say it's one of the best cases for custom water cooling ever made, and maybe one of only three with a horizontal motherboard layout (Mountain Mods and the very limited run TX10-H being the other).
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    Luscious got a reaction from panzersharkcat in Apple Silicon Mac Announcement - Slow Motion Dumpster Fire   
    Now imagine the shock/horror when Apple places TWO M1 chips in the bigger 16 inch laptop and FOUR go into their cheese grater LOL
     
    Because... you know... Apple. I'm not holding my breath.
     
    Intel may be beat by AMD on the desktop ATM but they still make decent mobile SKU's. And Apple sure as hell won't have anything to compete with a 64-core Threadripper or overclocked W3175X as far as performance is concerned.
     
    No, this new silicon paired with the NEW OS needed to run on it just screams MORE CONTROL by Apple and LESS OPTIONS for the end user. Never mind giving x86 software the finger. Their "ecosystem" is basically a walled garden, except if you look past the greenery, is showing more of the traits of a maximum security prison. Hardly the pleasant experience one would expect.
     
    No thanks!
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    Luscious got a reaction from Uttamattamakin in Apple Silicon Mac Announcement - Slow Motion Dumpster Fire   
    Now imagine the shock/horror when Apple places TWO M1 chips in the bigger 16 inch laptop and FOUR go into their cheese grater LOL
     
    Because... you know... Apple. I'm not holding my breath.
     
    Intel may be beat by AMD on the desktop ATM but they still make decent mobile SKU's. And Apple sure as hell won't have anything to compete with a 64-core Threadripper or overclocked W3175X as far as performance is concerned.
     
    No, this new silicon paired with the NEW OS needed to run on it just screams MORE CONTROL by Apple and LESS OPTIONS for the end user. Never mind giving x86 software the finger. Their "ecosystem" is basically a walled garden, except if you look past the greenery, is showing more of the traits of a maximum security prison. Hardly the pleasant experience one would expect.
     
    No thanks!
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    Luscious got a reaction from Drama Lama in Apple Silicon Mac Announcement - Slow Motion Dumpster Fire   
    Now imagine the shock/horror when Apple places TWO M1 chips in the bigger 16 inch laptop and FOUR go into their cheese grater LOL
     
    Because... you know... Apple. I'm not holding my breath.
     
    Intel may be beat by AMD on the desktop ATM but they still make decent mobile SKU's. And Apple sure as hell won't have anything to compete with a 64-core Threadripper or overclocked W3175X as far as performance is concerned.
     
    No, this new silicon paired with the NEW OS needed to run on it just screams MORE CONTROL by Apple and LESS OPTIONS for the end user. Never mind giving x86 software the finger. Their "ecosystem" is basically a walled garden, except if you look past the greenery, is showing more of the traits of a maximum security prison. Hardly the pleasant experience one would expect.
     
    No thanks!
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    Luscious got a reaction from kirashi in What is Apple's GAME here? - iPad Air 2020 Review   
    So you're at $1700 for a "laptop replacement" when you can buy a XPS 13 for LESS THAN HALF. And that's not even the cheapest laptop. Even a 2-in-1 can be had for around $1000 when it's on sale with a discount.
     
    Might want to hold my beer while I rewind that clock a decade and check - yes, those $500 premium netbooks were the "iPad killers". And that assessment hasn't changed. I can still do more with a laptop, even a 10 year old one, than what is possible with a tablet. Bang for the buck vs. expensive tech bling.
     
    If any tablet is a laptop replacement that distinction would go to Microsoft's Surface Go purely because it runs desktop Windows and has native 4-way keyboard/mouse/pen/touch functionality. Even the older Surface Pro 2 from 2014 was capable of not only replacing your notebook but giving the average desktop a serious run for it's money too.
     
    Stop trying to make the iPad into a laptop because IT ISN'T. It's a content consumption device not a content creation device. All those douche bag hipsters complaining that Adobe etc.. doesn't work - learn to use the right tool for the job!
     
    Unless YOU are the tool with Tim Cook's hand so far up your rectum he's moving your lips.
     
    Disclaimer: I am not an Apple hater. I have owned more than one iPhone.
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    Luscious got a reaction from Conor Keating in The Herd Mentality PC   
    That HAF XB is actually a pretty decent case if you're only doing air cooling, although you can mount a 240/280 AIO in the front of the thing. The fact that it puts all the extra gear UNDERNEATH the mobo tray makes cable organization great and lets you hide stuff nicely. It's also a great presentation case since it lets you show off your mobo up top from all sides. Take the panels off and you now have a stackable test bench. Stack multiple cases on top of each other and you can even have a small mining/folding rig or separate media/work server set up in a corner of your room.
     
    It's a very unique and versatile case - probably reason why it gets all the thumbs up. Good job CM for keeping it on sale!
     
    Let's not also forget that it's a HORIZONTAL motherboard layout - important if you have two really heavy GPU's in there, your board doesn't have reinforced PCIE slots or you just happen to transport the thing around a lot. Keeping your motherboard horizontal has it's advantages
     
    The biggest drawback with the HAF XB is if you want to do serious water cooling, and this is where cases like the CaseLabs S8S had it beat, since that one gave you fan/rad mounts in the roof and also downstairs with an add-on pedestal. I have the larger S8 with pedestal and after 6 years of use I can say it's one of the best cases for custom water cooling ever made, and maybe one of only three with a horizontal motherboard layout (Mountain Mods and the very limited run TX10-H being the other).
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    Luscious got a reaction from Deli in The Fastest Gaming PC in the World! ...For now   
    Peltier built into the CPU block. But rather than take the hardware temps sub-ambient, it uses a "controller" to keep it above ambient and avoid both the traditional condensation issues you would get in the past AND forgo having to use that fugly neoprene insulation.
     
    How that controller works is the trick, depending on if it ramps up based on CPU temps, voltage or CPU load. I guess we will find out. I am assuming it has a profile to regulate current via thermal probe, either measuring the CPU package temp or the fluid temp inside the block.
     
    Remember also that ambient < fluid < package < actual die temps. I'm guessing a thermal probe inside the controller is used to get that ambient number.
     
    If it's fluid temp based then it would be stupid simple to adapt it to any existing custom water loop and even use it for GPU cooling, chipset/VRM and motherboards that have full monoblock cooling.
     
    Good job EK!!! Now please make one for the W3175-X so that I can slap in on to my SR-3 Dark (I'm done with Asus)
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    Luscious reacted to Deli in The Fastest Gaming PC in the World! ...For now   
    EK puts a peltier in a CPU water block?
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    Luscious got a reaction from whismerhill in Can This Cool an RTX 3090?   
    Radiators come in many more thicknesses than those. Alphacool (the ones I use in my build) make 25mm, 40mm, 60mm and the chunky "Monsta" 80mm thick variety in 120mm and 140mm fan sizes from singles to quads - that's 32 different SKU's for those counting, not including the more obscure 40mm, 60mm, 80mm, 92mm and 180mm fan size models they also have.
     
    Yes, Alphacool will sell you a triple 180mm 80mm thick rad - good luck finding a case to fit THAT thicc boi
     
    You could make the argument that a single 120mm 80mm thick rad with two reasonable static pressure fans in push/pull can keep any single block in check. Remember that adding thicker radiators increases the coolant volume in the loop - more coolant volume for the same given heat load means lower coolant temperatures... and lower hardware temps. A longer res tube does the same trick too.
     
    But if all you're doing is matching 120-times-whatever rads with how many blocks you have to keep "in check" you aren't really getting any better results than air cooling. Unfortunately that's the big difficulty with modern cases - finding a box that can accommodate radiators and fans properly. Plenty will fit a 2x120mm AIO with a single set of fans and that's where their "compatibility" ends. Go thicker than 25mm, push/pull or you want triples/quads and it's a serious struggle finding a case that can truly claim to be water cooling friendly (again RIP CaseLabs). Even trying to fit two AIO (one for the CPU and one for your GPU) gets complicated.
     
    In my case (pun intended) I have five blocks cooling the four GPU's (980Ti) and a full mobo block (CPU/VRM/PCH). Coolant flow goes into the mobo block and then splits across the four GPU's. From there it gets cooled by two dual 140mm rads, a single 120mm rad and two triple 120mm rads. All of them are the "Monsta" 80mm thick type. The pump is just a single non-pwm D5 mated to a medium height res I've got set at #4. All the rads are in push/pull using Akasa pwm fans (22 fans total) that I've wired into just three mobo headers using three 8-way pwm splitters. I have a custom fan curve set in software for both normal 60/70F and summer 80/90F temps.
     
    None of the above would have been possible without the CaseLabs case that I am using, however. Trying to do this same build today I would seriously struggle finding a case that could make this all work. Case choice is critical for a well done water cooled build.
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    Luscious got a reaction from SpiderMan in Why is EVERYONE buying this CPU??   
    So 6-core is the popular choice in 2020. I plunked down on a 5960X back in 2014 - yeah it was expensive but I've been enjoying 8 core performance now for 6 full years. More importantly it still feels up to the task today so my investment is still paying dividends. Some say I should throw away my 5960X just because modern chips are faster clock-for-clock - not when it can still get what I need done. It's stupid easy to OC, the board it's on is solid and the RAM is cheap to replace if it fails.
     
    If I was building today I would most likely either go Threadripper or last year's W3175X. I won't say the new 5950 is a bad thing but look at the boards for it - consumer level stuff just doesn't have the same feel and feature set as enthusiast level gear. I've found that low end stuff does become a throwaway fairly quickly simply because it cannot handle the tasks you begin to throw at it many years later. That's unlike high end server gear which still sells well on the second hand market for obvious reasons.
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    Luscious got a reaction from panzersharkcat in Why is EVERYONE buying this CPU??   
    So 6-core is the popular choice in 2020. I plunked down on a 5960X back in 2014 - yeah it was expensive but I've been enjoying 8 core performance now for 6 full years. More importantly it still feels up to the task today so my investment is still paying dividends. Some say I should throw away my 5960X just because modern chips are faster clock-for-clock - not when it can still get what I need done. It's stupid easy to OC, the board it's on is solid and the RAM is cheap to replace if it fails.
     
    If I was building today I would most likely either go Threadripper or last year's W3175X. I won't say the new 5950 is a bad thing but look at the boards for it - consumer level stuff just doesn't have the same feel and feature set as enthusiast level gear. I've found that low end stuff does become a throwaway fairly quickly simply because it cannot handle the tasks you begin to throw at it many years later. That's unlike high end server gear which still sells well on the second hand market for obvious reasons.
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    Luscious got a reaction from panzersharkcat in RTX 3090 SLI - We Tried so Hard to Love It   
    I had a similar power problem with a CM V1200. My 4-way 980Ti system pulls exactly 1140W from the wall under load or just a little over 1000W actual PSU load. For a 1200W PSU to crap it's pants at 1000W is a massive fail - shame on you Cooler Master.
     
    After figuring out the cause of my system problem I unceremoniously dumped that POS and installed an EVGA 1600W T2. Runs like a champ without a hiccup and have not had a single power problem ever since. Two thumbs up for EVGA.
     
    Regarding SLI - having multiple graphics cards in a system has more benefits than just gaming. Being able to pool the VRAM together can have benefits when running simulations. If your software allows for configuring additional graphics cards that can also take advantage. Maybe you are in a situation where you need to transcode a massive library of video footage but don't want to tie up your main GPU for multitasking, or maybe you want to do work and game at the same time.
     
    In my case F@H is the main reason I have 4 cards, since even when I am folding on three I can still game. Then when I am not gaming I can push all four and have it run overnight as well. It's all water cooled with massive radiators with lots of fans so temperatures aren't an issue. The case I am using (CaseLabs Mercury S8 + pedestal) is also perfectly suited for exactly such a multi-card setup.
     
    I would be hesitant about dropping in four water cooled 3090's if I was building today though, just because you will definitely need a second PSU to even get it to work, and finding a case that can house a 2nd full size PSU and accommodate radiators is tough (RIP CaseLabs). Four 3080's though would be doable with a single 1600W unit if the cards have just 2x8pin.
  25. Like
    Luscious got a reaction from dogwitch in RTX 3090 SLI - We Tried so Hard to Love It   
    I had a similar power problem with a CM V1200. My 4-way 980Ti system pulls exactly 1140W from the wall under load or just a little over 1000W actual PSU load. For a 1200W PSU to crap it's pants at 1000W is a massive fail - shame on you Cooler Master.
     
    After figuring out the cause of my system problem I unceremoniously dumped that POS and installed an EVGA 1600W T2. Runs like a champ without a hiccup and have not had a single power problem ever since. Two thumbs up for EVGA.
     
    Regarding SLI - having multiple graphics cards in a system has more benefits than just gaming. Being able to pool the VRAM together can have benefits when running simulations. If your software allows for configuring additional graphics cards that can also take advantage. Maybe you are in a situation where you need to transcode a massive library of video footage but don't want to tie up your main GPU for multitasking, or maybe you want to do work and game at the same time.
     
    In my case F@H is the main reason I have 4 cards, since even when I am folding on three I can still game. Then when I am not gaming I can push all four and have it run overnight as well. It's all water cooled with massive radiators with lots of fans so temperatures aren't an issue. The case I am using (CaseLabs Mercury S8 + pedestal) is also perfectly suited for exactly such a multi-card setup.
     
    I would be hesitant about dropping in four water cooled 3090's if I was building today though, just because you will definitely need a second PSU to even get it to work, and finding a case that can house a 2nd full size PSU and accommodate radiators is tough (RIP CaseLabs). Four 3080's though would be doable with a single 1600W unit if the cards have just 2x8pin.
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