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PCGuy_5960

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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Trik'Stari in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    I could make the same argument about the lockdowns and the deaths that have and will continue to occur from the mass economic ruination that is happening as a direct result of said lockdowns. I could also point out that the MSM has moved the goal post so many times now that one could reasonably make the argument that they cannot be trusted to report accurately or in good faith. First it was a "nothing burger", then "we just need to lock down a few weeks to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed" and then it's moved into this vague "Stop the spread!" phase that seems to have the goal of preventing the spread entirely, which is in and of itself entirely unrealistic and misleading in the first place.
     
    And this is not even mentioning the completely ridiculous hypocrisy the MSM has displayed when covering certain mass gatherings. Some are apparently harmless, whereas others are "superspreader" events. I'm not going to go in depth here because it is an inherently political spin to the larger subject. The overall point is, censorship powers must always be as heavily curtailed as possible because they will almost always end being used in a political matter.
     
    So tell me, who is trustworthy enough to decide what is, and is not, "misinformation"? Because I can't think of a single group or organization on this entire planet that I might trust to do so. Algorithms even less.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Taf the Ghost in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    I was going to do the classic bit of pointing out that eventually the Sword will come for you as well, but your handle is literally Commodus. A Roman Emperor that got assassinated by his own inner circle because he wrote down a list of people he was going to execute and they found out. I got a pretty dang good chuckle over that one. The point still stands that all power granted to an group will eventually be turned against the one granting it, but as the Media reinforces constantly, consequences are always for someone else to deal with.
     
    One thing Twitter has done is shown, quite effectively, that it matters little the actual realities of the understood information, all experts will be subject to their own personal politics & emotional objectives. Information is always a tool to other objectives, thus "Trust" is at an absolute low in the Media and people talking in front of a camera. Why would someone believe Today what was considered "wrong" Yesterday? If Yesterday's information was "wrong", why should someone trust Tomorrow's information? There's a reason the fable of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is so important. 
     
    As one of my statistics professors, in the way any good stats prof does, round-about explained, it's unlikely you'll ever encounter any "Statistically Relevant" information in the Media. The numbers might be internally relevant ("Statistically Significant"), but exterior relevancy is rare because basically no one working in something you'll see in the Media will put in the work. This is why modern Statistics is pretty obsessed with Game Theory and tournament structures, no one wants their neck in a noose by pointing out none of the numbers matter because the data set is poisoned.
     
    For Covid-19 specifically, it would behoove everyone complaining about potentially false information to go back and review what the narratives were from January through April. Remember when the lockdowns were "temporary"? 
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Jito463 in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Yes, because scientists are never wrong or biased.  We can always trust them. 🙄
     
    I grew up hearing "bologna causes cancer" and "red M&M's cause cancer", amongst other nonsense.  I learned early on to take what "science" says with a massive grain of salt, especially when promoted by the media.
    Do you really believe shoving those views out of sight will make them go away?  If people believe it, then they're going to believe it no matter what you do to stop them from talking about it.  In fact, it's more likely that stopping people from talking about a subject will just encourage them to believe there's something to it after all.
    Exactly.
     
    Back on topic, so far as the OP goes, I don't trust a single one of those companies to determine what is or isn't true.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Arika S in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Yes, because Social Media has been a bastion of non-bias information.....
     
    They are treading dangerously close to becoming a "publisher".
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to handymanshandle in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    I usually don't care to comment on anything about science, but I do feel that it should be noted that I've always considered science as something that's elastic, something that could always change without notice. Hailing science as a religion is to hail narcissism as a God. It means nothing. It leads to nothing. Science is not a prophecy, it is never set in stone, as it needs to be. If it is, that science becomes a rule, or a dogma, unless exceptions are found or made. Science needs to be looked at as something that could always change, but, in the same vein, something that should be noted seriously. 
    Hailing science as a prophecy when it comes to a virus that most of the world knows relatively little about is not just insane, it's extremely dangerous. Treating things we've learned from the coronavirus (or are learning about it) as considerations to potential policy is the way to go, at least in my feeble, fucked-up mind.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Trik'Stari in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Because that is essentially the mindset that drives those kinds of organizations.
     
    Censorship is wrong. All this does is make them look more guilty and pathetic, in my eyes.
     
    Science and scientists are not a monolith, and do not always agree with one another on a given subject.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Shuaiouke in Ok so G502 lightspeed wireless is a legendary mouse, and Glorious Model ) wireless is so good, which is better?   
    Yeah I would prob get the G502, Ill have a look in the weekend im person and decide which I prefer, Ill let you all know
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Trik'Stari in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    ...read that again, but slowly. Do you like modern day China or soviet Russia? Because that does sound an awful lot like these 2.
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Jito463 in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Define "fake news", who gets to decide? Mr Zuckerberg? The US Government? Advertisers? Do you not think that such power could easily be abused to push misinformation?
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Inelastic in Help fixing my mouse   
    The only way to fix it is to buy new mouse switches from aliexpress/ebay and replace the broken ones. Are you sure that you aren't still covered by warranty?
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Omar.B in Ok so G502 lightspeed wireless is a legendary mouse, and Glorious Model ) wireless is so good, which is better?   
    Better is something very subjective, these 2 mice are completely different. The G502 is a non-symmetrical and relatively big mouse with more of a focus on general usage with all the buttons and the infinite scroll wheel. The Model O is a symmetrical and low profile mouse with more of a competitive/fps focus. I'd say a closer comparison is the G Pro Wireless and the Model O Wireless.
     
    If you are talking about the wireless performance, then I'd have to go with the G502 purely because of how "battle tested" logitech wireless has been, with many esports pros using logitech wireless in big lans with 0 issues. The wireless performance of the Model O might be equally good, but we can't know for sure until more people have gotten their hands on it, same goes for QC. Logitech does get a lot of flak for double clicking, but in all honesty it's not as big of a deal as some people make it out to be and logitech's customer support is excellent and will usually provide you with a replacement quickly.
     
    Just a quick note, 1)Powerplay is kind of a waste of money and overpriced unless you really want wireless charging. 2) If you are looking for the best mouse possible and don't mind waiting a bit, the G Pro X Superlight goes on sale in December and it's definitely worth taking a look at.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Master Disaster in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Fair point and again we're in agreement.
     
    It used to happen a lot back in the early days of science, someone comes up with the correct information, gets laughed out of the room while presenting it then dies only for it to later be proven to be correct. The great thing about science these days is anybody is free to make a proposal and no scientist would ever want opinions censored but when something is flat out lying it needs to be identified as such.
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Yes, but if you start censoring people based on the expert opinion, you can only go off of the currently available information, so, hypothetically speaking, you could censor information that might turn out to be true. (Some will obviously never become true, but you get the point)
     
    This wouldn't be an issue if the post wasn't censored, but the expert opinion was clearly displayed alongside it. My only problem is with censorship.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Master Disaster in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Nobody has said anything about censorship though. They want to create a standard set of rules on how to deal with it that is the same across all platforms.
     
    People have the right to believe what they choose, they do not have the right to force those opinions on others.
     
    I totally agree that censorship is a VERY bad idea, all that will do is let the preachers exclaim that the censorship is proof of them being correct but thats not the only way to deal with it. Adding clear labelling that the news is disputed or flat out fake along with context and links to facts and materials explaining why will do a lot more good than the current system.
     
    Lets also not forget that Facebook only did this voluntarily because they were going to be forced into it anyway. IMO its better to have news outlets and independent organisations involved in the process rather than them trying to self regulate.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    if your boss won't fire him report it to your local labor bureau, let the guy make chloroforms in his own home.
     
    you've tried to tell him, not much else you can do.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Rocketdog2112 in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Actually, it's pushing an agenda...
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    That is true, science is constantly evolving, so information that is considered true today may be wrong tomorrow. If you told someone in the 1800s that time is relative or that matter has wave like properties, he'd think you are a nutjob. 
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    the "experts" also thought that our DNA was a Single Helix, they thought that the earth was flat, they thought that emissions were not a problem. they thought radiation therapy, and shock treatment were okay, they thought lobotomies were ethical.
     
    and that's completely correct, thats what should be happening, instead of just deleting what was posted, they could have a bot or some way of adding a link near the post that debunks the claim or "fake news." I don't believe that you can just tell someone that something is false, or that something is right, thats why theres scientific theories, because new information is always being found on the subjects that we never knew about or considered. 
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    My opinion is that misinformation is a preferable alternative to censorship, at least it doesn't last as long. The most important thing is clearing up the misinformation, which can be hard, but it is possible. What twitter is doing is pretty good, doesn't censor the content, but they do provide you with the facts too. Making the media more trustworthy to the public would also help massively.
    That is true for some things, but not all. For example, if you say that covid is a hoax, then yeah, that is wrong and you're an idiot (and all the experts agree). If you question the impact that a nation wide lock down could have on the economy and if it's bad enough that it might not be a good idea, then you aren't right or wrong and different experts may not necessarily agree. (Economists/Doctors in this case)
    Seems pretty authoritarian, but ok. Different opinions, I guess. /shrug
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    So what's your solution? Give some big corporation/government the power to control everyone's thoughts and punish wrongthink, don't you think this is super dangerous?
    I'll just ask you this, do you think that censoring the people you are describing would honestly stop the misinformation? It would only reinforce the conspiracy theories and push them "underground" where they won't be challenged which will even further reinforce the stupidity, if instead of censoring them, you provide them with the correct information, there is at least a chance that they would stop believing in that nonsense.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    I don't ever remember saying covid isn't real.
     
    how do you know it's false, how do you 100% know it's false. you can't just go around saying that everything you dont think is right is false, is someone being worried about taking a vaccine false? how do you trust a company that has been previously known to go for cash grabs not to be swayed by someone with money trying to push something, to be frank, social media platforms can mark whatever the fuck they want as false, there's no jurisdiction to decide what's right. 
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to handymanshandle in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    At the same time, when you lose trust of a large group of people from trusting the media because of how they view that group of people, the media has no one to blame but themselves for it. 
    The US is a country of generally kind but naive people. It's not necessarily a bad thing, we as Americans try to care for each other as there's not much that unites us besides a flag. But when you break the trust of anyone who likes to give it easily, you tend to irreparably break their trust to an extreme degree. Ask me how I know. 
    This is a mess of cataclysmic proportions and the American news (and even non-news) media can blame themselves for a decent part of it.
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    i can't seem to pull a quote from the previous page, but it says at the top 
    where does an opinion cross the line to a conspiracy theory. I'm not anti-vax, and i'll probably get whatever covid vaccine I can get, but i can understand someone's fear about taking a vaccine that was developed in such a sort amount of time, this is literally meant to silence people, there is no "right or wrong" facebook definitely should not be the ones to decide it. 
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    PCGuy_5960 got a reaction from Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    Define "fake news", who gets to decide? Mr Zuckerberg? The US Government? Advertisers? Do you not think that such power could easily be abused to push misinformation?
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    PCGuy_5960 reacted to Letgomyleghoe in YouTube, Twitter & Facebook to join forces in an effort to curb fake Covid19 news   
    you're still not realizing that this is creating an option for more greed, im 99% sure this will be misused for a political agenda, or a point someone is trying to push. It's fucking facebook, look at their track record, if they see a way to monetize this they will.
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