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  1. 3 hours ago, yaboistar said:

    also don't go too far out of your seat @alpenwasser, i'll be through 100m in no time ?


    i'm more than happy to be part of a joint folding lead role, i think i'd skip on mod status anyway because that requires me to be a responsible adult. Is there any other way users could be granted badge perms, or is this just the way the forum is built. 

    As far as I know, 'tis just the way the forum is built. C'est la vie. But thanks for the offer anyway!

  2. 4 hours ago, Favebook said:

    I haven't been active on forums a lot but I have been folding(F@H) for almost a year (on and off), and I didn't know about the badges so I would like to claim mine if it is still possible.?

    If you have been folding under the LTT team number, of course it's possible! Doesn't really matter how active you are on the forum. Just post a link to your stats page. Thanks!

  3. On 7/6/2019 at 9:40 PM, RollinLower said:

    welp, i hate to be the party pooper but i feel like this is just not gonna work. the idea was good, tough the execution just not that much. why collect badge requests in a central thread when we're just not gonna get them anyway? it's been over a month now!


    sure, people have lifes out of the internet and this forum. i get that. i do too, tough just taking an hour out of each week to yeet badges at people shouldn't be that hard. especially when we dedicate our resources to gaining those badges.


    On 7/7/2019 at 10:11 PM, Steev43230 said:

    LTT: Have staff make a bot to receive PM's check the user status, and apply or update the badge. Simple.


    Or just let it go through the honor system until the last one, two, or three highest badges.


    On 7/16/2019 at 3:45 PM, GOTSpectrum said:

    @alpenwasser any updates for this?


    On 7/16/2019 at 4:41 PM, GOTSpectrum said:

    I dont know if you have any way to run my last post up the ladder, but if you do please try to get it seen, I really want to have this sorted, I'd love to run more DC events but without badges being awarded it seems like a pointless endeavour. 


    On 7/20/2019 at 11:35 AM, GOTSpectrum said:

    Honestly I don't care if it's me or someone else as long as they are active and involved in the folding community.


    I would do it if asked, but I don't see me ever being asked to do so tbh.


    On 7/20/2019 at 8:50 PM, RollinLower said:

    that's the problem though, if asked i would gladly take the role aswell. and i'm pretty sure there are others who would. 

    the thing that needs to happen is that someone needs to be assigned. and while this thread alone is nearing the 2(!) month no update mark i just don't see it happening very quickly.



    On 7/23/2019 at 3:03 PM, seoz said:

    I second this notion, I've been stuck in limbo and wanted to get back into Folding but have been hesitant as the LTT Folding team's management seems to have gone stagnant.


    Stuff should be updated now. Been moving apartments in the past two weeks and had to wait for Internet! The Horror!


    I'll happily relinquish the BOINC leader position (can't comment on F@H), there's another thread for that after all, but the badge assigning unfortunately has to be done be an account with moderator privileges. But yes, while I do still regularly pop in here (mostly for behind-the-scenes stuff and things like this), I'm not around enough for now that it makes much sense for me to be BOINC team leader.


    But I think there might have been a miscommunication -- the idea of the thread was that other mods can process the requests too, not just me. That's the whole point! My bad -- I'll communicate that to the others more clearly so that you young grasshoppers can get your badges more quickly in the future.

  4. Since the primary two mods responsible for badge assignment duties (Whiskers and myself) haven't been around much in recent months, we've had a bit of a chat behind the scenes and thought we'd try something new.


    Instead of you having to try to figure out which mod to write a PM to in order to get your badges, we're gonna try to collect all requests in a single thread and then whichever mod sees it first can assign the badges.




    F@H Badge Thresholds

    In order to be rewarded with the Folding @ Home badge, please note the following requirements. (subject to change)

    • fold_mem.pngContributor - When you have contributed more than 21 Work Units (WU), you will qualify for this badge, to show your commitment to LTT and the team. 
    • fl_bronze1-F6.0.pngBronze Contributor - When you have contributed more than 1 Million points, you will qualify for this badge. This reflects your serious and continued support of the team. 
    • fl_silver1-F6.0.pngSilver Contributor - When you have contributed more than 25 Million points, you will qualify for this badge. This reflects your serious and continued support of the team and your very generous donation of resources. 
    • fl_gold1-F6.0.pngGold Contributor - When you have contributed more than 100 Million points, you will qualify for this badge.. This reflects your dedication and continued support of the team and your very generous donation of resources.
    • plat.pngPlatinum Contributor - When you have contributed more than 500 Million points, you will qualify for this badge. You are now a legend! 
    • image.png.546c4fca7972d2dfb653b0c93ad89efa.pngDiamond Contributor - When you have contributed more than 1 billion points, you will qualify for this badge. Tales of your folding adventures will be whispered through the ages; you are now mythical.



    F@H Event Badge Thresholds

    These are special badges handed out for participating in the official Folding events organized by the Folding community. These badges will be handed out automatically after the events to eligible participants (subject to individual event guidelines and requirements).

    • image.png.0acc24e952a5bf918454e0683f36848d.pngEvent Founder - A unique badge only available to those who participated in the first event. ** This Badge is no longer available for distribution **
    • image.png.a6ea9cbf8a75f5a11073fc709db607d7.pngEvent Newbie - For participating in at least 1 Folding event.
    • image.png.c55b2b302c2de6f7a76982598b8e0012.pngEvent Veteran - For participating in at least 3 Folding events.
    • image.png.bfba76cdb672bed6e15393e1451c8483.pngEvent Fanatic - For participating in at least 5 Folding events.

    Below is the list of Official Folding Events that have counted toward the Folding Event badges. To be an Official Folding Event, they must specifically be endorsed by LMG, so Folding Events like the Summer Sprint of 2019 do not count towards obtaining these badges. Additionally, on top of folding and meeting the minimum requirements for the event, you must make sure you sign up specifically to be tracked for the event; we do not track every LTT user who was folding at the time of the event (this has caused a lot of confusion in the past). 





    BOINC Badge Thresholds

    In order to be rewarded with the BOINC Team badge, please note the following requirements. (subject to change)


    • boi_mem.pngContributor - When you have contributed more than 25,000 credits, your will qualify for this badge, to show your commitment to LTT and the team.
    • bnc_bronze1.jpgBronze Contributor - When you have contributed more than 1 Million credits, your will qualify for this badge. This reflects your serious and continued support of the team.
    • bnc_silver1.jpgSilver Contributor - When you have contributed more than 25 Million credits, your will qualify for this badge. This reflects your serious and continued support of the team and your very generous donation of resources.
    • bnc_gold1.jpgGold Contributor - When you have contributed more than 100 Million credits, your will qualify for this badge. This reflects your dedication and continued support of the team and your very generous donation of resources. You are now a legend!


    Note on Processing


    We haven't nailed down all the details yet, so this might change as things evolve, but to make it easier for us to track which requests have been processed and which have not, we're going to set posts which have been processed to Hidden for now. So don't be scared if the thread appears empty to you, that might just mean we're all caught up on badge assignment duty.


    Team Membership


    To be eligible for the badges, you have to have contributed the credits/WUs under the LTT team membership. The teams are:



    Happy crunching!

  5. 3 hours ago, Antistatic12 said:

    I did that in April twice and never heard back. Is there another mod who can issue badges?

    Yeah I think he's had the same problem as me -- meatspace getting in the way. I can do the badges too; both of yours should now be upgraded.

  6. Hello folks!



    So, as many will undoubtedly have noticed, I haven't been super active on the forums in recent times (sorry about that -- extremely busy in meatspace life with job and such stuff). Even more terribly, I have not actually been generating BOINC credits (that one has more to do with my current living situation which doesn't allow for 24/7 number crunching). I know, I know, an egregious blunder on my part.


    So one of our members contacted us and asked if maybe we would want to choose a new BOINC team leader who's actually, you know, active.


    The selection process will be as follows:

    - Y'all can nominate people, including yourselves, in this thread.

    - If need be, we'll have a vote.

    - We (the mods) reserve the right for final approval/veto/tossing our own votes into the hat.


    What will the winner get?

    This here fancy badge:




    Your duties will mostly be ... what you make them, to be honest.





  7. 3 minutes ago, LAwLz said:


    I see, thanks for that link.


    I think the trouble with meritocracy here is what people understand it to mean, and how much importance they place on it. Most people I have talked with about the topic have focused very heavily on technical skills, neglecting or even entirely omitting social skills. That's also why I have been somewhat conditioned to it being a red flag for me, and I'll usually try to steer clear of environments which are obsessed with it. If somebody defines merit so narrowly, and then places it above anything and all else, I'm going to have to disagree with that. As you yourself said: People skills matter a lot.


    If we define merit more broadly, to encompass many more aspects of the human experience, sure, it might become more useful.


    But even then ... who decides what merit is, and how? Certainly, there are many metrics you can measure, but how to decide which metrics matter, and how much? And yes, you can notice if somebody has good people skills (or rather: somebody can convince you that they have), but it's not like you can just grade that and give them a 8/10 and that's a truly objectively correct measurement. And even in cases where clear metrics exist, how often and how rigorously are they actually applied by the decision-makers? You might be able to measure contribution frequency, compile times and execution speed, but when it comes to things like legibility, commenting quality and beauty of code, things are suddenly more subjective. But are those criteria irrelevant? At least to me, they're not. Your mileage may admittedly vary.


    So as soon as you have things like that being taken into account (and I think they should be -- people may disagree with me on that, fair enough), you suddenly no longer have a truly objective measurement of a person's merit (and I think objectivity is a goal of a meritocracy, at least for the people with whom I have so far talked about this in my life). People contributing to different parts of a project under different supervisors will not be judged equally because they're not judged by the same people. I mean, just look at this forum: Sure, us moderators try to make the user experience as uniform as possible by talking to each other about problem cases and warnings before taking action, but even in a team which is relatively small compared to the Linux project, we do not always succeed, despite best intentions. And that's from people who are making an active effort -- people in other projects might not even bother with that.


    And just like with the CoC itself, there's plenty of potential for abuse if the person above you in the food chain is an asshole who doesn't like you. Even if their criticisms are invalid and can be disproved, should it really be upon you to invest the time and energy to do that if you're donating your spare time to a FOSS project? Personally, I just wouldn't bother in such cases and stop contributing. I have enough interesting stuff to do in life where I don't have to deal with abrasive nincompoops.


    So I suppose one of my main gripes with the term (not the concept, just the word itself) "meritocracy" is that it suggests a standard of objectivity which usually just does not exist. It's not a magical silver bullet which automatically leads to great results, but to many people (at least ones I've talked to), the word sort of implies precisely that (whether or not those people are correct in their assumptions is a different question of course). Yes, what we end up with in practice is sort of a meritocracy as well, as already said, but the term itself has very different connotations for many people.


    And as said: The CoC just by itself doesn't really ellicit much emotion from me. There isn't really anything in there which I'd consider spectacular news. If she uses it as a tool of power, then that's more of a problem with her and the people listening to her, less with the bare text, I think. Most CoCs could be used for that, probably including our own.


    Sorry for wall of text. :S

  8. 1 hour ago, LAwLz said:


    What is being suggested by the creator of this CoC in her post-meritocracy statement is that things like race and sexual orientation should play a key role when people are valued as contributors. Do you believe that a trans person should be valued above you at work if you are both doing the same things and doing it equally well?



    I haven't followed her closely enough to be familiar with her views and actions in detail, so I don't know what she personally advocates for. But I couldn't actually find anything like this in the actual new CoC itself. Am I reading the right document?




    I've read that document multiple times now, and honestly, I don't think it's very spectacular, or anything worth getting upset about. Unless I'm reading the wrong thing. IDK.


    As for your actual question: If my boss said to me "[Person X] is better because they are [part of minority Y].", then I would obviously consider that preposterous. But I don't see anything like that in the CoC. If the author of the CoC advocates for that, that's not really a fault with the CoC itself I think. But maybe I haven't found the right link or right document or am reading the wrong text, or have overseen a sentence or paragraph. Weirder things have been known to happen. It's easily possible that it's going to be badly enforced, but that's possible with any CoC -- even ours. It just depends on the mods, as  @Sauron says. It's not a problem with the text, it's a problem with its application.


    In any case, most of the time, I try to stay way from FOSS drama -- too many fragile egos to deal with. My life's too short for that.

  9. 1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

    What's it like being that wrong? Meritocracy is the only system that consistantly works.


    Feels great, to be honest. I even get paid decent money for it.


    More seriously though: My point is less that merit in and of itself is useless, but that most of the time when people go on about "meritocracy", they focus almost exclusively on the technological side of things, when in practice, whether or not you hold merit to a specific project is determined by many more factors. As said: An engineer with crappy people skills, no matter how brilliant on a technological level, would not fare well in the environment in which I work. They would be useless; i.e. without merit.


    Sure, what we end up with is a meritocracy of sorts as well. But not the kind of meritocracy of which your average internet dweller will think when they read the term, most of the time. I'm not saying my tech skills are irrelevant (otherwise I could be replaced by a preschooler, after all). But they're by far not the only thing which is required for me to be good at my job. So applying the term to my situation isn't very useful, because people are going to get the wrong idea. We need engineers with good people skills on top of good technological expertise where I work, otherwise we're simply going to fail at our mission.

  10. As a side note on meritocracy: It sounds great on paper, but I've found it to be a rather useless concept in practice. Primarily because what "merit" is exactly in any given context is not as straightforward to determine a lot of the time and open to interpretation and ambiguity (at least in my experience).


    Example: I work in a relatively small team of engineers at my company, but we're involved in some EU and German research projects where you work with lots of people from other companies and universities. Beyond a certain baseline of technical competency and a will to work hard during crunch times, your people skills are going to be as important as your technological knowledge, sometimes even more so. You're going to be meeting new people all the time, and you need to be able to work with them without much fuss. Even if you're the most gifted engineer involved in the project, if you cannot play at least somewhat nice with the other folks on the team, you will be utterly useless to your company. In short: You will have no merit. The project will be far better off (and more successful) by hiring somebody who's maybe not quite as brilliant on a purely technical level, but can actually work with other humans. A meritocratic system based purely on technical aspects (for example, code quality, whatever that may be) would fail to take that into account.


    Another big thing is politics. Somebody has to secure funding for our engineering projects, either from within our company, or from outside. They need to be both knowledgeable enough on a technical level to know what can and cannot be done, and maybe even a rough idea of how, and they need good salesmanship. Often, this is a senior engineer (at least in the teams I've seen so far). They don't need to be super talented on a technical level -- they might have written rather crappy code when they were younger. But they're absolutely crucial in the grand scheme of things.


    So for me, any CoC where they mention a meritocratic system is a pretty big red flag, to be honest.

  11. Just a general heads-up:


    I was abroad doing a crapload of overtime during spring, which meant basically no private live in the past few months. The good news is that I get to take lots of time off during the second half of the year, so I was planning to get around to this in the coming weeks. Nice to discover somebody has decided to help out! Many thanks to @timdine (and, uhm, apologies for the messy code :D ).

  12. If you're still having issues, I would indeed suspect that something is physically broken.


    Reflashing with the same version sounds like the right idea, though you could always try another version just to see what happens.


    I would try to make sure that it really is the card and not the drives or anything else in the PC before you go and buy a new one, but I realize that if you don't have another machine available to test things, this will be rather difficult.

  13. Power losses are tricky beasts. Usually nothing terrible happens, but it could be that some piece of hardware actually got damaged. Reflashing doesn't sound like the stupidest idea though; could be that something in the card's bios or firmware got corrupted but the hardware itself is fine.


    I'd also try to make sure that the  HDDs themselves are still okay (I would presume that they are, but one never knows). And maybe try out some other storage device on the LSI card; something which hasn't had contact with it yet. If you do, make sure (if you can) that you've tested the HDDs first and that the LSI card doesn't kill stuff which is connected to it (unlikely, but I have actually had that happen with a SATA controller which was defective back in the day -- fried three HDDs of mine).


    Running the card in another computer could also be useful, if you can find one into which you can put it.


    A diagnostics utility could also be of potential use. See if lsiutil gives you anything useful. Zip archive download with versions for major operating systems here:



    It even has an efi version if you can't get into your OS; never tried that though, only the Linux version.


    Make sure to be careful; you can do pretty much anything with it, including breaking stuff.


    Here's some guidance on the tool:


  14. 18 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

    I just added the fourth drive this morning (everything else is a few years old at this point). And I needed 12tb usable before and 16tb usable now, so that would have required an extra $150/$300 (since I'd probably go z2 at that point) that I didn't want to spend. I chose FreeNAS because it was the first OS I tried and I really liked it. 

    Ah yes, that bitter cost of sweet, sweet redundancy. Been there, I empathize.


    I'll update the rankings as soon as I've worked out the kinks in the script.

  15. 1 hour ago, unijab said:


    I'll see if I can fix them....I need to get away from photobucket

    They must of recently changed their TOS to prevent seeing the pictures if you aren't on their site, so you have to pay to embed them other places... Any recommendations??



    I see you've uploaded them to LTT now. I'd actually forgotten that you could do that (just goes to show how long I've been absent :D ).


    1 hour ago, unijab said:


    Well ... I have:

    12 each 2.5" wd red 1TB

    5 each 3.5" seagate 4TB

    4 each 3.5" wd green 3TB

    3 each 240G SSDs

    2 each 960G SSDs


    I would like to consolidate them all into one box if I can find something large enough... in tower form ( i dont have space for rack mount yet )


    But I also want to have time to play with a qlogic FC hba to see if I can get it into target mode and create a hacked SAN server.... (instead of iscsi like I do now)



    1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

    There's pretty much no way you're getting 26 drives to fit nicely into a single Tower style case.


    If you really are wanting to do that, I'd look at maybe CaseLabs and see if they have a modular design that can take enough HDD cages.


    Yeah, Caselabs almost certainly have something which can accommodate 26 drives. Ain't going to be cheap though. You could also look for something with lots of 5.25" bays, and then fill those with hotswap cages. Given that some of your drives are 2.5", something like the Xigmatek Elysium could accomodate your HDD combo:

    - one 8 × 2.5" -> 2 × 5.25" bay adapter

    - one 4 × 2.5" -> 1 × 5.25" bay adapter

    - three 5 × 3.5" -> 3 × 5.25" bay adapters


    This would give you 12 2.5" slots and 15 3.5" slots, but it would be neither pretty, nor quiet, nor cheap. So I'd probably still recommend Caselabs. Or a custom mod, obviously, but that's going to be quite a bit of work if you want it done cleanly (it would fit into my server's case for example, and that's not even a huge tower).


    41 minutes ago, unijab said:

    FYI... did you not see the pictures in the post below that ... that are working?


    All working for me now. thumb.gif

  16. If the files are mostly large, the difference in speed should not be too high, so it probably does not matter too much here.


    As an aside though: For many small files, this can make a significant difference. Copying carries more overhead, since the copy routine has to open a filehandle for each source file, a filehandle for its target, send the contents from the source to the target, and then close both filehandles again (and maybe do some other magic too, like checking for file path uniqueness on the target side, depending on what you're using to copy them). The smaller the files become, the larger the overhead relative to the overall volume of data.


    If you clone the drive, it can just slurp up all its contents and spew them onto the new drive without having to do any of that extra work (unless the cloning software does something extra, but the utilities I tend to use don't). Downside is that you have to trust your cloning utility as opposed to the OS copy routine (assuming you're going to use that).