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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi,

I am going to upgrade my motherboard but  I am slightly confused.

I was wondering which one of these were better, as I cannot really understand.

Some people on the internet say the VRMs are bad and are realy hot, but I don't really want to do editing, only gaming.

So, can you help me pick form these:
MSI Z370 PC PRO

GIGABYTE Z370 HD3P

GIGABYTE Z370 Aorus Gaming K3

 

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5 minutes ago, Mad153 said:

Some people on the internet say the VRMs are bad and are realy hot, but I don't really want to do editing, only gaming.

It still matters lol but imo, the msi one 

 

 


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Have you considered boards by Asus? 


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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Have you considered boards by Asus? 

Asus products can be very expensive. "Asus tax"

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Just now, DOGEY said:

Asus products can be very expensive. "Asus tax"

Sometimes it is better to spend quite a bit on components like motherboards.


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4 minutes ago, DOGEY said:

Asus products can be very expensive. "Asus tax"

that's why i did not really like them. Also i am upgrading from a cheap AM3+ motherboard and i use A LOT of USB ports and many of the Asus ones only have 6.

 

7 minutes ago, lmeneses said:

It still matters lol but imo, the msi one 

 

 

I guess because of the VRM?


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Just now, Mad153 said:

I guess because of the VRM?

Yes, they all have ok vrms, but gigabyte is just eh to me, unless you get one of their higher end boards


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Oh ok, thanks


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Just now, Mad153 said:

that's why i did not really like them.

Admittedly Asus boards are expensive but they are built like tanks and in my opinion they are the most user-friendly.  


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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Sometimes it is better to spend quite a bit on components like motherboards.

Sometimes Asus is not the best...Anyways I would choose an Asrock motherboard. There aren't Asrock options so MSI.

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1 minute ago, DOGEY said:

Sometimes Asus is not the best.

That is true but from the Asus boards I've used in my opinion they are the best boards on the market. You can't go wrong with an Asus board. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Thanks.

Any good ones sub £140 / around $180 with 7+ USB ports?


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5 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That is true but from the Asus boards I've used in my opinion they are the best boards on the market. You can't go wrong with an Asus board. 

Ok...We are going with Asus no problem.

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1 minute ago, DOGEY said:

Ok...We are going with Asus no problem.

You can be sarcastic and all but at least I'm up front and saying it's my opinion, a lot of people just say "get ..... because it's better than all of the others". 


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3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You can be sarcastic and all but at least I'm up front and saying it's my opinion, a lot of people just say "get ..... because it's better than all of the others". 

Yeah, The other motherboards do look a bit well, sketchy


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I didn't want to be sarcastic. Even I searched for Asus motherboards. Don't get me wrong Asus motherboards are good. Just sometimes the price can be high or the motherboard will not be the best.

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What CPU will you be using? Any overclocking?


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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Just now, DOGEY said:

Just sometimes the price can be high or the motherboard will not be the best.

They are expensive because they are built like tanks even lower-end Asus boards are built to a spec not a price. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What CPU will you be using? Any overclocking?

Oh sorry,

The i5 8600 (non K)

not overclocking and just gaming.


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7 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

If you can try and aim for the Prime-A.

Ok, but will there be lots of advantages as i just want a motherboard which does not look absolutely ugly and brown and one which does not slow down the CPU with its VRM or crap build quality or support for cheap.


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4 minutes ago, Mad153 said:

Ok, but will there be lots of advantages as i just want a motherboard which does not look absolutely ugly and brown and one which does not slow down the CPU with its VRM or crap build quality or support for cheap.

The Prime Z370-A is the best sub $200 board on the market not to mention it looks awesome and the build is rock solid (source : I ran one for almost a year)


My PCs:

VALENTINIAN : CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X || CPU COOLER : Corsair H115i Pro || MOBO : MSi B450 Tomahawk Max || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB, Samsung 850 Evo 1TB x2 || PSU: EVGA G2 850W w/ Cablemod Black & White Cables || CASE: NZXT H510 White || Monitor: Acer Predator X34A, HP 27yh || KEYBOARD: Corsair K95 RGB Platinum (MX Brown) || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero || Audio: HyperX Cloud Alpha, Logitech C920 || Case Fans : 2x Corsair ML140, 2x Corsair ML120 ||

DIOCLETIAN III (HTPC) : CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8GhZ || CPU COOLER : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition || MOBO : MSi X370 Gaming Pro Carbon || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V (3200) || SSDs: Crucial P1 500GB, Crucial MX500 1TB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB || PSU: Seasonic 650W w/ Black & Red Extensions || CASE: Phanteks P300 || Monitor: Samsung Q60 65" QLED || KEYBOARD: Logitech G613 || Mouse: Logitech G305 || Audio: Samsung Q60R Soundbar || Case Fans : 3x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 ||

JUSTINIAN - Dell XPS 15": CPU: Core i7-9750H || GPU: GTX 1650 || RAM: 2*8GB 2666MhZ DDR4 SODIMM || SSD: 1TB M.2 PCIe || CASE: 15.6" Laptop with dBrand skin || Monitor: 15" 1920 * 1080 IPS || KEYBOARD: Dell Keyboard || Mouse: Logitech G305 White || Audio: Sony IEMs

MAXIMINUS THRAX (Open-Loop Testbed) : CPU: Core i5-7400 || CPU COOLER : ThermalTake Open Loop Watercooling Kit || MOBO : Gigabyte Z270XP-SLI || GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.Skill Aegis (2666) || SSDs: Crucial MX500 500GB || PSU: Corsair CX650M || CASE: Fractal Design Define C TG || Monitor: Generic Dell 24" || KEYBOARD: Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2 Tournament Edition || Mouse: Logitech G603 || Audio: No || Case Fans : 2x ThermalTake Riing, 1x Fractal Case Fan ||

OTHER : Dell Latitude (i7-6600U, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD) ||

MOBILE : Galaxy S9 (64GB + 64GB uSD) || Galaxy S7 (32GB)

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Mad153 said:

Oh sorry,

The i5 8600 (non K)

not overclocking and just gaming.

Then tbh it doesnt matter. Only when overclocked CPUs are in use that VRMs are a problem.

 

4 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The Prime Z370-A is the best sub $200 board on the market not to mention it looks awesome and the build is rock solid (source : I ran one for almost a year)

From Asus, that is


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Then tbh it doesnt matter. Only when overclocked CPUs are in use that VRMs are a problem.

 

From Asus, that is

And what other Z370 board offers a better value than the Prime-A at $160?


My PCs:

VALENTINIAN : CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X || CPU COOLER : Corsair H115i Pro || MOBO : MSi B450 Tomahawk Max || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB, Samsung 850 Evo 1TB x2 || PSU: EVGA G2 850W w/ Cablemod Black & White Cables || CASE: NZXT H510 White || Monitor: Acer Predator X34A, HP 27yh || KEYBOARD: Corsair K95 RGB Platinum (MX Brown) || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero || Audio: HyperX Cloud Alpha, Logitech C920 || Case Fans : 2x Corsair ML140, 2x Corsair ML120 ||

DIOCLETIAN III (HTPC) : CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8GhZ || CPU COOLER : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition || MOBO : MSi X370 Gaming Pro Carbon || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V (3200) || SSDs: Crucial P1 500GB, Crucial MX500 1TB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB || PSU: Seasonic 650W w/ Black & Red Extensions || CASE: Phanteks P300 || Monitor: Samsung Q60 65" QLED || KEYBOARD: Logitech G613 || Mouse: Logitech G305 || Audio: Samsung Q60R Soundbar || Case Fans : 3x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120 ||

JUSTINIAN - Dell XPS 15": CPU: Core i7-9750H || GPU: GTX 1650 || RAM: 2*8GB 2666MhZ DDR4 SODIMM || SSD: 1TB M.2 PCIe || CASE: 15.6" Laptop with dBrand skin || Monitor: 15" 1920 * 1080 IPS || KEYBOARD: Dell Keyboard || Mouse: Logitech G305 White || Audio: Sony IEMs

MAXIMINUS THRAX (Open-Loop Testbed) : CPU: Core i5-7400 || CPU COOLER : ThermalTake Open Loop Watercooling Kit || MOBO : Gigabyte Z270XP-SLI || GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.Skill Aegis (2666) || SSDs: Crucial MX500 500GB || PSU: Corsair CX650M || CASE: Fractal Design Define C TG || Monitor: Generic Dell 24" || KEYBOARD: Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2 Tournament Edition || Mouse: Logitech G603 || Audio: No || Case Fans : 2x ThermalTake Riing, 1x Fractal Case Fan ||

OTHER : Dell Latitude (i7-6600U, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD) ||

MOBILE : Galaxy S9 (64GB + 64GB uSD) || Galaxy S7 (32GB)

 

 

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