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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi all,

 

i need to build a new PC, my 2010 macbook is getting a old and dont want another mac;
I plan on running VM's from time to time; RTS games & auto CAD for 3d printing and possibly some CNC (at some point);

budget is around 2k CAD ( i am in Montreal)

i have a 27" 1440p dell monitor; i would like to upgrade to a 34" at some point

 

i am not a heavy gamer but i do like RTS games and want them to run smoothly; i also plan on keeping it for a decade or so...
this is what i picked on amazon.ca

total 1361$ + taxes

 

i do have a few old sata HDD with little use on them that should good enough for now

not sure what graphic card to get...thinking of getting a 1080 during black Friday or the holidays if i can get a good deal on one.

 

what do think ?

TIA

 

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not bad, going to use pcpartpicker to make you a better list. so give me a while

 


PSU TIER LIST 3.0//Vram info//80+ info//HDD Guide//Build logs//Build plan guide//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

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Primary PC: Random stuff inside a case

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill v2

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM, 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Ecogreen   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Some premium 2003 case   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: alluminium/metal   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

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wait, before I get it wrong, you have this already or not? not sure if I understand it right


PSU TIER LIST 3.0//Vram info//80+ info//HDD Guide//Build logs//Build plan guide//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC: Random stuff inside a case

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill v2

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM, 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Ecogreen   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Some premium 2003 case   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: alluminium/metal   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

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PSU TIER LIST 3.0//Vram info//80+ info//HDD Guide//Build logs//Build plan guide//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC: Random stuff inside a case

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill v2

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM, 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Ecogreen   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Some premium 2003 case   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: alluminium/metal   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

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  • Wait for Black Friday, don't focus on Amazon. You'll save a ton of cash, or get significantly better parts.
  • Don't buy a used PSU; you lose out on the very long warranty. It's not worth it.
  • Check to make sure that the case isn't one of their shitty models; IIRC there's only one good one in the "500" line up.

Welcome to the forum. Don't forget to quote or tag, or people won't know that you've replied.

 


Current PC:

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*WORK IN PROGRESS*

 

Mothballed PC:

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($384.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($98.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING Video Card  ($959.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($111.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1954.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-30 10:35 EDT-0400

 


1st:  NZXT S340 | MSI Z97S SLI Krait EditionIntel Core i7 4790K | NZXT X61 KrakenKingston HyperX Fury 32GB | 2x MSI R9 290X | 240GB SSD 2TB HDD | Corsair RM1000

2nd:  NZXT S340 Elite | Asus X99 Deluxe IIIntel Core 6900K | NZXT Kraken X62 | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB | Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080ti | 1TB SSD 5TB HDD | Corsair RM1000x

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Posted · Original PosterOP

thanks guys, yeah amazon is my go to for quick shopping...but i double check prices before ordering

Is the ryzen really better then i7-8700 ?

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30 minutes ago, ITS said:

Hi all,

 

 i need to build a new PC, my 2010 macbook is getting a old and dont want another mac;
I plan on running VM's from time to time; RTS games & auto CAD for 3d printing and possibly some CNC (at some point);

 budget is around 2k CAD ( i am in Montreal)

i have a 27" 1440p dell monitor; i would like to upgrade to a 34" at some point

 

i am not a heavy gamer but i do like RTS games and want them to run smoothly; i also plan on keeping it for a decade or so...
this is what i picked on amazon.ca

total 1361$ + taxes

 

i do have a few old sata HDD with little use on them that should good enough for now

not sure what graphic card to get...thinking of getting a 1080 during black Friday or the holidays if i can get a good deal on one.

 

what do think ?

TIA

  

Not sure if you have Memory Express or Canada computers in your area, if you do take a look at their website and inventory. I got a great deal on my GPU from Mem Ex.  Also, Newegg sometimes has better pricing than Amazon. If you can wait for parts, please do! Black Friday will be worth waiting for.


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3 minutes ago, Rex_G said:

Not sure if you have Memory Express or Canada computers in your area, if you do take a look at their website and inventory. I got a great deal on my GPU from Mem Ex.  Also, Newegg sometimes has better pricing than Amazon. If you can wait for parts, please do! Black Friday will be worth waiting for.

no memory express but a canada computer just opened downtown

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intel is better singlecore-wise. but more and more games are utilizing 16 treads (so 8 cores with ht). the ryzen is budgetwise a better bet right now


PSU TIER LIST 3.0//Vram info//80+ info//HDD Guide//Build logs//Build plan guide//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC: Random stuff inside a case

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill v2

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM, 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Ecogreen   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Some premium 2003 case   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: alluminium/metal   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

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5 minutes ago, ITS said:

thanks guys, yeah amazon is my go to for quick shopping...but i double check prices before ordering

Is the ryzen really better then i7-8700 ?

You want something long-lasting and good for productivity - that's got Ryzen written all over it. Ryzen 2700(X) will do you perfectly and AMD has committed to the same socket (AM4) until 2020 so that opens up avenues for upgradability down the line if they've made some really good advancements (apparently they're bringing out 7nm chips in early next year which are apparently suppose to be somewhat of a game changer). Intel is generally better for gaming and AMD better for productivity (again, speaking in "general" terms) so for your use and application AMD is the way to go and as a bonus all their Ryzen 7 chips can be overclocked whilst your suggested i7-8700 can't. But that depends if you want to OC.


Main rig - CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X @ 4.0 GHz - 1.23v | Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 rev 2 | GPU: Asus DUAL GTX 1060 O6GB | RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000MHz | PSU: Corsair RM650X 80+ Gold | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X470-F | Storage: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM | Case: NZXT H700 Black

 

Laptop - HP Pavillion; CPU: Core i5-7200U RAM: 8GB DDR4-2133MHz | GPU: Intel HD 620 | Storage: Samsung 128GB SSD - Western Digital 1TB HDD

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8 minutes ago, ITS said:

thanks, good to know

No problem and remember if you want to reply you need to quote people or tag with "@" along with their username. Good luck on your build, I've just done mine albeit not complete and it's mega fun! All the best!


Main rig - CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X @ 4.0 GHz - 1.23v | Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 rev 2 | GPU: Asus DUAL GTX 1060 O6GB | RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000MHz | PSU: Corsair RM650X 80+ Gold | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X470-F | Storage: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM | Case: NZXT H700 Black

 

Laptop - HP Pavillion; CPU: Core i5-7200U RAM: 8GB DDR4-2133MHz | GPU: Intel HD 620 | Storage: Samsung 128GB SSD - Western Digital 1TB HDD

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13 hours ago, dizmo said:
  • Don't buy a used PSU; you lose out on the very long warranty. It's not worth it.

 

Let me re-iterate this hard. When a PSU goes it can easily cause a good sized piece of the rest of your hardware to emit the magic blue smoke. When your memory, or motherboard, or CPU, or GPU or pretty much anything else goes, you lose the part and if it's a drive some data potentially. When a PSU goes you could lose everything in the system and your data to boot. It's virtually allways going to be the most expensive thing to replace if it dies because of it;s love of frying other components along with it. In a worst case scenario you might have to bin your entire old system when it goes.

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7 hours ago, ITS said:

Build looks good! Only thing I would change is the motherboard from a X470 Gaming Pro to a X470 Gaming Plus - will save you some money and it's basically the same board except the Gaming Plus has better temps on the VRMs for overclocking.

 

With respects to the GPU just search the market during Black Friday and get the best GPU you can for the amount of money you've allocated to it. Zotac cards I've heard get a bit warm but they're still decent. Asus and EVGA generally make some really good cards.

 

Good luck and enjoy the build! 


Main rig - CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X @ 4.0 GHz - 1.23v | Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 rev 2 | GPU: Asus DUAL GTX 1060 O6GB | RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000MHz | PSU: Corsair RM650X 80+ Gold | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X470-F | Storage: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM | Case: NZXT H700 Black

 

Laptop - HP Pavillion; CPU: Core i5-7200U RAM: 8GB DDR4-2133MHz | GPU: Intel HD 620 | Storage: Samsung 128GB SSD - Western Digital 1TB HDD

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