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YouTube is now messing with the Super Chat feature of live streams

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Ahh yes, the left's boogieman - "harassment".   You know whose harassing?  THEM.  

 

So very tired of hearing this crap.  It has nothing to do with harassment in the way you think it does.  Their 'AI' does NOT work any better then an IRC client.  It's actually kinda worse.

 

Virtue SIgnaling, nothing more.  

 

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It's evolving... 

Comments being altered.

 

 


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47 minutes ago, Kamina said:

It's evolving... 

Comments being altered.

 

 

Lol. So you know how he mentioned that it looked like some crap that google translate poops out? It is. The posts aren't actually being edited. He's wrong as it happens. Google integration has auto detection and translation of various web pages. The post isnt actually being changed, but Google is automatically translating the post from what it thinks is a different language into English. If you cant find what part of the page is triggering the auto translate, all you have to do to fix the issue is disable page translation without prompts.

 

How do I know this? It's happened to me. I lost my shit and was freaking out trying to figure out what's going on (I was messaging a friend through this and other sites.) She screenshot proved that my sent message was the same as the one I typed, but it showed up different on my page.

 

This isnt related to the current topic.

 

 

EDIT: Replicated the issue as proof. It was probably from Russian to English. Side-note, my example problem was also due to auto-detection of Russian. My friend being from a former soviet republic and my having typed a bit of russian (I have a very basic understanding) in our dialogue before that point.

 

This behavior doesn't occur with most languages that write using a roman script, so most of the time, we wouldn't notice an errant translation attempt.

Most languages just spit back out english words as is if they don't match up exactly to known words in Google translate. This isn't done in Russian because the alphabet is different and google attempts to translate people's butchered beliefs of how russian words sound/should be spelled in roman script (instead of cryllic). Like Da Svidaniya is not actually how the word is spelled. It is spelled до свидания, but the stress of the language make it sound sorta like da svidaniya. Ergo when translating languages using a different script by default, google attempts to "interpret" what you mean when you don't spell things correctly, while languages that use Roman scripts instead tends to just spit it back out unchanged.

 

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2 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

isnt actually being changed, but Google is automatically translating the post from what it thinks is a different language into English.

So yes, it is being changed.

Change is change.

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54 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

So yes, it is being changed.

Change is change.

The post stored on the site isnt being changed. The post other people see isnt being changed. The text HE sees changes because autotranslate is running. Turn it off and the issue disappears.

 

It's nothing to do with censor or conspiracy or anything. You read the comments of the video and its half people typing the comment without any issue. Because there is no issue. 


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Proof. Issue replicated.

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And there's yet another question.

 

What exactly does Google define "hate speech" as?

 

Is it stuff that only stem from the so-called "alt-right"? Or is it derogatory remarks made by anyone with the intention to hurt regardless of political affiliation and gender/race?


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I'll gladly take $20 for someone to call my X, Y, or Z. It's not like I have to read it on stream. And gasp maybe some people on the internet send you hurtful messages. They still don't have to pay for that either. Now it's a problem because you get money out of it? Okay then.


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yeah, nope youtube, i'd rather take the insults with the cash than give it to charity 


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7 hours ago, Jito463 said:

I already addressed this on the first page of the thread.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/985423-youtube-is-now-messing-with-the-super-chat-feature-of-live-streams/?do=findComment&comment=11877319

I don't trust YT to not abuse this, and sanction their ideological foes in the guise of stopping "hate speech".  You think it's okay because you believe it's directed at legitimate targets, but you're the one assuming if you believe it will stop at racists.

wait a minute. I read something and gave my opinion on that. You read something and assumed something else.

You can be right, but when and if abuse happens then will talk, and this is YT and youtubers, we'll know.


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14 hours ago, aezakmi said:

O H  N O  I'm gonna kill myself because of a chat message!!11 I'm offended!!! It's OK to be everything except a white male!1!!

 

2018/9/etc in a fucking rotten nutshell

 

There is a difference between being pissed and offended...

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Google, when it ain't broke .. don't fix it.

They don't get that do they?

 


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3 hours ago, Canada EH said:

Whatever they want it to be.

Actually its whatever their bots decide it to be, which is even worse.


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Simple answer, the YouTube cut goes directly to charity, the streamer can set a flag to auto accept, or deny the flagged messages.

 

Alternatively have an option to select if they want to have a look through them and decide themselves which they don't like, or want & give them 7 days (for example) to go through them at which point the money goes whichever way they have a default flag set to (either them or a charity) so they don't have to look at them if they don't want to and it just gets defaulted how the streamer wants it to be. This may also help train the AI on what that particular stream deems acceptable.

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I'm curious about the legality of taking the money under false pretenses.  I can completely see denying the donation for "insert any reason here".  But I don't understand how it can be legal to take someone's money, then say you gave it to their intended recipient, but then give the money to someone else.  I mean, if I use Paypal to send someone money for cheese, and Paypal thinks cheese is bad for you, so it gives the money to "charity", that can't be legal.  Can it?  How can a business be allowed to essentially lie to a paying "customer"??

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7 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Actually its whatever their bots decide it to be, which is even worse.

Great point.

 

 

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