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Leaked Google Document shows the shift towards Censorship

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26 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

So what youre NPC speech bubble says is that, in fact, Japanese is not a race. Despite the fact that you were trying to conflate online censorship with it somehow being RACIST for sushi chefs to be from the country that invented sushi?

 

Even though its in no way prohibited for a person of any race to become a sushi chef, and despite the fact that most sushi chefs in the west are in no way Japanese, and are often actually of Korean descent...

 

Japanese and Chinese people(among the many other peoples from Asia) are Asians, right?

sorry to burst your bubble, I never said Japanese is a race. in fact, race doesn't exist. we are all human species, the human race. 

 

And rejecting someone for employment because of his ethnicity and gender instead of the imaginary "race" doesnt make you immune to civil lawsuits and criminal discrimination  charges

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Yes, you can. Marx's original definition was impossible, and language evolves overtime.

 

Communism now, and has for decades, been explicitly a totalitarian single party system of an extreme Socialistic ideology. Thank the shitholes that are/were the USSR and China.

hahahaha. If that is the case, We ought to have the liberty to butcher the English language and redfine the whole English dictionary. Democracy is actually fascism and anarchy is order and cold means there is huge amount of thermal energy. Why you ask? because time has passed, exactly 15 seconds, and i have redefined everything. 

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2 minutes ago, wasab said:

race doesn't exist. we are all human species

You realize that race is to humans as is breed is to cats/dogs, right?

 

There are different races of humans, just like there are different breeds of cats and dogs.

Just now, wasab said:

If that is the case, We ought to have the liberty to butcher the English language and redfine the English dictionary then.

We do redefine parts of the English Language. That's why Merriam Webster and Oxford still manufacture and update dictionaries, to provide denotation for what has become a nigh absolute connotation.

 

2 minutes ago, wasab said:

Democracy is actually fascism and anarchy is order and cold means there is huge amount of thermal energy. Why you ask? because time has passed, exactly 15 seconds, and i have redefined everything. 

No one gives a shit about YOU redefining everything. Get half of the world to use a new definition and then we'll talk.

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Everybody turns to dust.

 

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2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

You realize that race is to humans as is breed is to cats/dogs, right?

 

There are different races of humans, just like there are different breeds of cats and dogs.

We do redefine parts of the English Language. That's why Merriam Webster and Oxford still manufacture and update dictionaries, to provide denotation for what has become a nigh absolute connotation.

 

No one gives a shit about YOU redefining everything. Get half of the world to use a new definition and then we'll talk.

race is social construct dude. By the rigorous, scientific, and biological definition, human has one race, the human race. 

 

We havent seen another human race since the neanderthal so get away from your culturally distorted lens and think scientifically instead. 

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15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

You realize that race is to humans as is breed is to cats/dogs, right?

 

There are different races of humans, just like there are different breeds of cats and dogs.

We do redefine parts of the English Language. That's why Merriam Webster and Oxford still manufacture and update dictionaries, to provide denotation for what has become a nigh absolute connotation.

 

No one gives a shit about YOU redefining everything. Get half of the world to use a new definition and then we'll talk.

im debating the communism in its most original and untampered form. you are the one who wants me to accept your newly invented definition. Good luck on that. To called communism as a government is a common rhetoric appealing only to those of the lowest common denominator. anyone who is well versed in its philosophy knows communism is by definition a stateless society. Karl marx would be rolling in his grave to see his ideology so diluted by the layman. sad. 

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57 minutes ago, wasab said:

i like to point out many ballet theaters and cheerleading squads do not hire men and get away with it.

 

I like to point out women are exempted from the draft in nearly all armed forces

 

I like to point out that race is a basis for job competency if like say i find Japanese chefs to fit the theme of Asian restaurants better or an african american is better fitted to act as an aifrcan zulu warrior in films.

 

I would like to point out you are practicing double standards. 

You said "race is a basis for" right there. Please reboot this NPC. Its broken.

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4 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

You said "race is a basis for" right there. Please reboot this NPC. Its broken.

not my fault if my computer doesnt do auto complete correctly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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4 minutes ago, wasab said:

ace is social construct

It's a categorical device and its use is identical to that of breeds.

 

4 minutes ago, wasab said:

By the rigorous, scientific, and biological definition, human has one race, the human race. 

False. Race, like breed, is categorized by way of variations in genetic makeup favoring certain traits over others.

4 minutes ago, wasab said:

think scientifically instead.

Race is a concept created by olden scientific understanding and still supported by current scientific understanding. It is a method of categorization, which is one purpose of biological science.

 

1 minute ago, wasab said:

newly invented definition.

This definition of Communism came to be in 1922, with the rise of the USSR.

3 minutes ago, wasab said:

Karl marx would be rolling in his grave to see his ideology so diluted by the laymen.

Marx's ideology is known as Marxism. When talking explicitly about Marx's inherently evil ideology in Marx's exact vision, we're talking about Marxism.

5 minutes ago, wasab said:

sad. 

Pound salt.

 

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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6 minutes ago, wasab said:

not my fault if my computer doesnt do auto complete correctly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What word got autocorrected to "race" there?

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12 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

It's a categorical device and its use is identical to that of breeds.

 

cant believe there are still people who subscribed to the early human racial theory which has now been clearly debunked and discredited in the same manner as eugenics and social Darwinism. Like i said, i am talking about the scientific definition here. Not your socially and culturally conjured notion of "race" as a categorical device or not.  

 

I have genetic different makeup than everyone else on earth.(i have no twins). can i be my own seperate race? that is nonsense. 

 

"Marx's ideology is known as Marxism. When talking explicitly about Marx's inherently evil ideology in Marx's exact vision, we're talking about Marxism."

please just stop. you are making my TAs  for my philosophy 101 class cringe. 

 

"Pound salt."

yeah, whatever. 

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4 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

What word got autocorrected to "race" there?

why would you wanna know? 

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On 10/11/2018 at 9:32 AM, rcmaehl said:

An leaked document states that Tech companies now "control the majority of online conversations” and have undertaken a “shift towards censorship”. Google states the document should be considered internal research, and not an official company position.

Google wants to dominate the entire planet and profit off of your personal info and habits.

I wish there was a way we could bypass that. Oh well.

 

That wack job got pulled from Twitter, conspiracies and such, I listen to Joe Rogan go on about that guy, crazy!

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3 minutes ago, wasab said:

why would you wanna know? 

Exactly what i thought your reply would  be. Seriously, this NPC needs a reboot  ASAP.

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1 minute ago, Amazonsucks said:

Exactly what i thought

Well we can think whatever we want to, to each their own, freedom of speach, freedom of expression, Linus' rules.

 

Not worth the extra BPM, not for a micro second.

 

I just wonder what NPC means.

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21 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Well we can think whatever we want to, to each their own, freedom of speach, freedom of expression, Linus' rules.

 

Not worth the extra BPM, not for a micro second.

 

I just wonder what NPC means.

Its a meme that is currently being purged and censored from the internet.

 

I predict it will cause a massive Streissand effect.

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@Drak3 just saying, there are much more genetic differences between dog breeds and between humans, so in the way that dog breeds is races, humans is only one.

 

It's all about how much differences there must be. It's a number that must be set. And if it's set the same as for dogs, you would just get variations of the same in humans.

 

But if you put down a line somewhere, where would it be? There is no clear lines between how humans look.

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1 hour ago, Mihle said:

@Drak3 just saying, there are much more genetic differences between dog breeds and between humans, so in the way that dog breeds is races, humans is only one.

 

It's all about how much differences there must be. It's a number that must be set. And if it's set the same as for dogs, you would just get variations of the same in humans.

 

But if you put down a line somewhere, where would it be? There is no clear lines between how humans look.

Like most of what is said on here, that is the exact opposite of reality.

 

https://www.livescience.com/8472-genetic-variations-separate-great-danes-dachshunds.html
 

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14 hours ago, wasab said:

yeah, just like men are highly sought after to be a ballet dancer. haha. It is as much a fact as it is common sense that men are less likely to be hired in these professions. 

Dude - I have close family who are involved in that world. Men are highly sought after for Ballet and Cheerleading, due to the fact that socially it's considered "feminine" or "girlie", and therefore very few men are interested in doing Ballet to begin with.

 

I'm telling you, straight up, that if you're trying to go into Ballet, Cheerleading, Classical singing, or Music Theatre in general, that as a man, you have a significant advantage, as you're a highly desirable and scarce resource.

14 hours ago, wasab said:

I am not talking about that. I am talking about how come we see women being exempted from compulsory armed services to be perfectly accpetable yet refusing wedding cakes to gay couple isnt on the grounds of gender/sexual orientation?

I don't entirely understand your point here. The reason why the wedding cake thing even became a thing is because regular everyday people want wedding cakes.

 

Regular every day people DO NOT WANT TO BE DRAFTED. So, you're unlikely to find a woman fighting for that particular right, because most of them (rightfully so) don't want to die in some shithole country halfway around the world from where they live. Is this a double standard? You bet.

 

I'd say that women should be part of a draft, but I'd say the more ideal outcome would be that men are no longer subject to a draft, and military service becomes voluntary.

 

Though to be fair, there are a number of countries THAT DO DRAFT WOMEN - Israel probably being the biggest example.

14 hours ago, wasab said:

That my friend is a double standard. We really ought to sue Hollywood for whitewashing. Why arent ethnic actors pick for many ethnic roles? outrageous. 

Huh? Everyone knows white washing is bad. It's ended people's careers.

 

It's not a double standard because:

1. You don't need to be ethnically japanese to be an expert in the traditional japanese style of sushi. Anyone can learn that.

2. You *do* need to be ethnically japanese, to play a character who is ethnically japanese. To do otherwise is white washing, and is considered at best, mildly racist.

 

As to whether white washing is actually illegal? I don't know if anyone has sued over it yet. But if it ever actually went to court, it might well be considered discrimination, depending on the specifics of the case.

 

Sexism still exists my friend (both sexism against men and women). I was never claiming otherwise. I was simply pointing out that your Ballet thing is totally false, so... you know... just pick better examples, dude.

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49 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Dude - I have close family who are involved in that world. Men are highly sought after for Ballet and Cheerleading, due to the fact that socially it's considered "feminine" or "girlie", and therefore very few men are interested in doing Ballet to begin with.

 

no dude no. If a guy finds it shameful to do ballet, so would the ballet theaters. Your close family havent yet seen a men doing ballet in their mist have they? lol

49 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

I'm telling you, straight up, that if you're trying to go into Ballet, Cheerleading, Classical singing, or Music Theatre in general, that as a man, you have a significant advantage, as you're a highly desirable and scarce resource.

Minority is also a scarce resources, doesnt mean i would find them more desirable simply because i find diversity lacking in my workplaces. 

 

49 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

 

Regular every day people DO NOT WANT TO BE DRAFTED. So, you're unlikely to find a woman fighting for that particular right, because most of them (rightfully so) don't want to die in some shithole country halfway around the world from where they live. Is this a double standard? You bet.

 

that is NOT the reason why draft doesnt include women. The draft did not include women beacuse they were WOMEN. it doesnt mattter if they wanted to or not.

 

49 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

 

Sexism still exists my friend (both sexism against men and women). I was never claiming otherwise. I was simply pointing out that your Ballet thing is totally false, so... you know... just pick better examples, dude.

Femininity exists, sexism does not. no one is gonna make laws that distracts a women from being a women. I cant make law that stipulates that women shouldn't give birth and men should breastfeed. Modern day feminism is walking down this dark alley in which masculinity is shun and women are forcefully shoved outside their gender roles in the name of social progresses. 

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13 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Its a meme that is currently being purged and censored from the internet.

 

I predict it will cause a massive Streissand effect.

I am socially conservative and politically moderate left. If you are gonna psychoanalysis me, do more careful readings on my posts. 

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1 hour ago, wasab said:

no dude no. If a guy finds it shameful to do ballet, so would the ballet theaters. Your close family havent yet seen a men doing ballet in their mist have they? lol

Minority is also a scarce resources, doesnt mean i would find them more desirable simply because i find diversity lacking in my workplaces.

What are you even talking about here? Yes, my family HAVE SEEN MEN DO BALLET. My fiancee is in a dance/theatre school, and has also completed university for classical singing.

 

Men simply don't apply to ballet or other dance classes in large numbers. It's difficult to get sufficient numbers of men.

 

So yes, men in ballet are a scarce resource.

1 hour ago, wasab said:

that is NOT the reason why draft doesnt include women. The draft did not include women beacuse they were WOMEN. it doesnt mattter if they wanted to or not.

That's actually not likely true.

 

I can pretty much guarantee that if a woman was passed over for the Draft, and decided to sue the government for gender discrimination? It would go all the way up to the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the US), and she would almost certainly win.

 

However, no woman is insane enough to do this. Just like no man would sue his way into the draft, if he was exempt or passed over.

 

The draft does not include women for a multitude of reasons. Some have historical practicalities that no longer apply, and others are simply sexist.

1 hour ago, wasab said:

Femininity exists, sexism does not. no one is gonna make laws that distracts a women from being a women. I cant make law that stipulates that women shouldn't give birth and men should breastfeed. Modern day feminism is walking down this dark alley in which masculinity is shun and women are forcefully shoved outside their gender roles in the name of social progresses. 

You don't seem to understand what sexism is.

 

Men not having to breastfeed is not sexism (and not what people claim sexism to be).

 

Sexism is a man getting hired as an Engineer because it's a "man's" profession, and an equally (or more) qualified woman being passed up, simply because she's a woman. That kind of shit still happens, though certainly at lesser rates in recent years.

 

Masculinity isn't being shunned. Toxic masculinity is being shunned.

 

Toxic masculinity includes things like "men don't cry". "Dancing is for girls" *COUGH* Ballet *COUGH*, being an Alpha is the only way to get girls, being beta makes you a cuck, etc. Learn the difference, and then you'll understand that most women and most feminists don't hate you or your masculinity.

 

Sure there are extremist man-hating feminists. Just like there are extremist woman-hating incels and misogynists.

 

Both are rare.

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What a thread, at what point does this get locked over how off topic and political its gotten? 

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Just now, Daegun said:

What a thread, at what point does this get locked over how off topic and political its gotten? 

Up to the mods. If you think it's crossed that point, you should report the post in which you think it happened, and explain in the report why you think what you do.

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