We got a $5,500 TAPE DRIVE!

[nicklmg]

Buy MagStor on Amazon: http://geni.us/kg5Mku

 

 

[xriqn]

Not gonna lie, I'd love to have one of those. Another great video LMG!

[Gawron10001]

I would love too see you making whole infrastructure in your studio <3

[PlayStation 2]

Damn I do too

 

obvious /s here

[brandishwar]

And now you need to make and enforce a manual backup policy for your vault. At least, though, once you commit something to your vault, you only need to back up whatever is new, so the backups become much faster after the initial data drop.

[DataEmo]

It's time for another robotic project. Maybe a Lego autofeeder

[brandishwar]

And a slight correction to what you said about the tarball. You didn't need to "wrap" the files in a tarball before writing to the tape. You instead used tar as the intermediate command: "tar cv [path/to/back/up] | [command to write to tape". And a similar command to reverse it. Provided the command to read and write from the tape could use the stdin and stdout streams.

On Unix, you'd probably just be reading from and writing to the device interface -- e.g. "tar cv [path/to/back/up] > /dev/tape01".

 

Definitely not as neat and clear as what you're doing, though.

[poochyena]

How do the costs compare for each medium?

[Egg-Roll]

Send help? Ok... On my way.

_{(I wonder how many will get this)}

[Arika]

Tape-drive RAID server for your editors when?

[Shreyas1]

1.29

 

" about 6000 dollars "

 

price tag shows 5499 dollars

 

you're only 500 bucks off

[Speed Weed]

Linus Sesbian mix tape. 

[Tech_Dreamer]

7 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Damn I do too

 

 

obvious /s here

bro , i just came into the thread just to tag you in , seems like you jumped in on the sh*t way early than me! 

[Luscious]

I used to run a Travan drive back in the day when I had my Windows95 machine. I kept a full system backup and would refresh it regularly. CD burners were slow as molasses (1x) and ran $1000 back then, but a cheap HP Travan drive hooked up to the IDE daisy chained worked great for backing up my boot partition. Every time a rogue download messed up Windows I'd just run a restore job, the tape would spin through until it got to the part with the problem file, replace it with the non-corrupt version on tape and my system was back up and running in as little as maybe 10 minutes. It was easy to use and it was bulletproof - I loved that thing sooo much.

 

The other great benefit with tape drives when restoring stuff is that they will read linearly too. So big movie files will get written to your hard drive quickly without the tape having to seek back and forth like it would with many smaller files. With an entire drive/partition it will just stream from one end of the tape to the other - very quick depending on your drive size. Verify operations will also run quickly too because it's the files on the tape as they are being read linearly are compared to the file properties of the file on the hard drive. When they don't match it means either the tape copy operation failed or the file on disk has been changed/corrupted.

 

If I was going the tape drive route today though I'd just invest in a cheap LSI SAS card and get an internal LTO tape drive. Those can be had for $3300 - WAY CHEAPER than what Linus purchased. Option B is to get an external USB3.0 tape drive, which not only solves the Windows compatibility issues with TB3, but can also be used with a laptop.

 

It's pretty simple to get a dedicated miniITX tape drive build done. Just install the tape drive where your optical burner would normally go in your case and plug a SAS card into the PCI slot. Assuming the mobo has 10GBE you should be good to go.

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, Shreyas1 said:

1.29

 

" about 6000 dollars "

 

price tag shows 5499 dollars

 

you're only 500 bucks off

Taxes, shipping... A tax rate of 6% would easily push it very close to $6000 with $170 left for shipping costs before it goes over $6K.

 

So no he was correct.

5 hours ago, poochyena said:

How do the costs compare for each medium?

Referring to vs DVDs/Blu-rays?

If so

The cheapest 100 pack of DVDs is about $20 at 4.4GB or 0.44TB or $550 for 12TB

The cheapest 12TB tape is $200 +- https://www.amazon.com/IBM-01PL041-LTO-8-Ultrium-12TB/dp/B079YLWNZ6

The cheapest Bluray discs are about $20 for 25/25GB or about .625TB or $385 for 12TB

The cheapest HDD way would likely be shucking lol... $150 per 8TB so about $225 for 12TB

[57_Wolve]

Whatever you do DON'T GET HP I've had it with HP. I'm looking into getting an IBM TS3200.

I'm also having to make a software in-house as well because the type of archiving software I'm looking for doesn't exist.

[Ross Siggers]

8 hours ago, Arika S said:

Tape-drive RAID server for your editors when?

Imagine the noooiiiiseee!!! I mean it's not possible to do, but THE NOIIISEEE 

Tape drive LTT video; dividing the old from the young  

[FastRDust]

20 minutes ago, Ross Siggers said:

Imagine the noooiiiiseee!!! I mean it's not possible to do, but THE NOIIISEEE 

Tape drive LTT video; dividing the old from the young  

Thanks for the Reminder of the good old days

[GodAtum]

please tell me you will keep the tapes off-site in a secure location??

[lykanthrop]

Where is the RGB tape version?!

[Guest]

If you run out of tape looks like you left some on your iMac Pro. 

[alextulu]

So, why is it that Thunderbolt isn't overkill ?

[mariushm]

It's kind of stupid to have it with just Thunderbolt , at 5500$ ...

 

When 10 gbps network cards are available at retail from around 70$ and up, I would think it would be a way more compatible and future proof connectivity method. Hell, at that price point, they could even bundle in the box a separate a 10gbps pci-e network card for the systems that don't have a 10gbps card built in. This way, they wouldn't limit connectivity to Apple and systems with Intel cpus.  

But even if the customer doesn't want or can't make hardware changes to the system, I'd wager to say even connected to a 1 gbps network port, it wouldn't be a big loss when dumping the data to tape ... after all the advertised speeds are up to 300 MB/s but I'm sure it's not constant, the write speeds would fluctuate a lot. 

 

Even regular usb 3 is perfectly capable of up to around 3-4 gbps (2-300 MB/s), though perhaps with slightly more cpu usage, and usb 3 I'd say is well supported on everything.

 

They're probably paying around 40-50$ per device in the Thunderbolt chips and cable and licensing anyway, it's not much like the BOM price would be much bigger if they went with regular ethernet.

 

Sound to me more like a marketing thing, or to please the Apple market which needs something to plug in Thunderbolt ports.

[micha]

How did you notice throttling in Google Drive? Is it upload, download or latency during use? We are actually storing more then 150 TB and did not notice anything. And Google assured us that there is actually no limit and no repercussions for storing way more then this.

[plurus]

On 9/26/2018 at 3:17 PM, Dan Castellaneta said:

Damn I do too

 

obvious /s here