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Hi!

 

I am currently looking for laptop, with parameters crucial for me: i7-8750H, PCIe 256 GB+, 16 GB RAM +, GTX 1060 (I'm not much of a gamer but I want to have the possibility and the gear that will serve a while).

After a deep (as for an amateur) research I narrowed my choice to:

Asus ROG Strix GL504GM Hero II

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL504GM-Hero-II-i7-8750H-GTX-1060-FHD-Laptop-Review.326126.0.html

Asus ROG Strix GL703GM Scar Edition

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-GL703GM-Scar-Edition-8750H-GTX-1060-FHD-120-Hz-Laptop-Review.309052.0.html

 

I also consider dell G3 (with 1050Ti, but for that I can invest for 32GB RAM and/or 512 HDD) and G5/ G7 with similar specifications.

Could you please advise between these product or perhaps offer alternatives? 

I've read here that the ASUSes might have some issues with temperatures, but in mentioned reviews they don't say anything about it.

 

I would really appreciate your help!

Cheers

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Is TN panel a problem for you?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Where are you from? Budget? Preferred max weight and minimum battery life?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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I'm buying from Poland. Budget around 1400-1600 Euro. Weight and battery are secondary priority for me so no frames.

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8 minutes ago, Menace_2_Society said:

Poland

Any links of online stores?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Hi,

 

Below you have direct links to referred laptops - this store is most reliable and have best prices/biggest choice. Unfortunately they don't have EN version :).

1 PLN (Polish value) is ~0,24 Euro

 

Many thanks in advance!

 

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/444958-notebook-laptop-156-asus-rog-scar-ii-gl504gm-i7-8750-16gb-256pcie1tb-w10.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/434168-notebook-laptop-173-asus-rog-strix-scar-gl703gm-i7-8750h-16gb-240pcie1tb.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/429484-notebook-laptop-156-dell-inspiron-g5-i7-8750h-16g-2561000-win10-gtx1060.html#specification

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1. MSI GE63/GE73 8RE

Note: GP63/GP73 is very similar but I don't think they have the same 120Hz TN option in your country

 

2. Asus GL504GM

Repaste highly recommended

 

3. Asus GL703GM

Repaste highly recommended

 

4. HP Omen 15 dc with 144Hz IPS

 

5. HP Omen 17 (2018) with 120Hz IPS

 

6. Dell G5 with UHD panel

 

Also consider barebones:

TongFang:

1. GI5CN6E (get from clevocenter)

 

2. GK5CN6Z (get from xtreem.pl, clevocenter.com or sklep.hyperbook.pl)

Thin bezel, under 2kg, under 2cm thickness

 

Clevo:

1. P751TM1-G (get delided CPU option from clevocenter)

Desktop CPU with unlocked CPUs

 

2. PA71EP6-G (get from clevocenter, hyperbook, dreammachines.pl)

With TB3, 2.5cm thickness, Gsync panel

Don't get the 1070 model, runs too hot

 

3. N950TP6 (get from clevocenter)

Desktop CPU

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 hour ago, GeneXiS_X said:

1. MSI GE63/GE73 8RE

Note: GP63/GP73 is very similar but I don't think they have the same 120Hz TN option in your country

 

2. Asus GL504GM

Repaste highly recommended

 

3. Asus GL703GM

Repaste highly recommended

 

4. HP Omen 15 dc with 144Hz IPS

 

5. HP Omen 17 (2018) with 120Hz IPS

 

6. Dell G5 with UHD panel

 

Also consider barebones:

TongFang:

1. GI5CN6E (get from clevocenter)

 

2. GK5CN6Z (get from xtreem.pl, clevocenter.com or sklep.hyperbook.pl)

Thin bezel, under 2kg, under 2cm thickness

 

Clevo:

1. P751TM1-G (get delided CPU option from clevocenter)

Desktop CPU with unlocked CPUs

 

2. PA71EP6-G (get from clevocenter, hyperbook, dreammachines.pl)

With TB3, 2.5cm thickness, Gsync panel

Don't get the 1070 model, runs too hot

 

3. N950TP6 (get from clevocenter)

Desktop CPU

Thank you so much !

Is the order of list random or from the best to the worst choice ?:)

Also by repasting you mean replacing the paste on the processor? I don't know why but I'm leaning forward the ASUS however the processor issues worries me a bit. Or as a rather non extreme user I shouldn't be so much occupied ?

Much appreciated !

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4 minutes ago, Menace_2_Society said:

from the best to the worst choice

^^this. It should be 'from best to good'

4 minutes ago, Menace_2_Society said:

Also by repasting you mean replacing the paste on the processor? I don't know why but I'm leaning forward the ASUS however the processor issues worries me a bit. Or as a rather non extreme user I shouldn't be so much occupied ?

Yes. Asus uses really bad stock paste. Others as well, but definitely not that 'bad'. i7-8750H is a hot chip, therefore a repaste is highly recommended anyway

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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On 9/25/2018 at 5:21 PM, GeneXiS_X said:

^^this. It should be 'from best to good'

 

Yes. Asus uses really bad stock paste. Others as well, but definitely not that 'bad'. i7-8750H is a hot chip, therefore a repaste is highly recommended anyway

Hi there, 

 

I'm still struggling with the decision. Unfortunately it turned out that I need to buy it with 0% interest installments - and I have just one service in Poland which provides that (with no artificial charge on the product itself).

Surprisingly, for the first time they have ASUS product, but in the version GL504GS - with 1070 card, link below.

But with this model, first of all I don't need so strong card, for which I need to pay extra ~300E, so I would prefer the spend the money on extra RAM and PCIe SSD in MSI models, which don't have it by default. Also I wanted to ask - the ASUS model doesn't have integrated Intel Graphic chipset, so it means it works all time at 1070 I guess - how it would influent working on the laptop by rather normal user (rare gamer)?

 

I would really appreciate your help again :)

 

 

ASUS ROG Strix SCAR II GL504GS

https://www.euro.com.pl/laptopy-i-netbooki/asus-rog-strix-scar-ii-gl504gs-15-6-intel-core-i7-8750h-16gb-ram-1tb-256gb-dysk-gtx1070-grafika-win10-.bhtml#opinie

 

MSI Leopard GP73 8RE

https://www.euro.com.pl/laptopy-i-netbooki/msi-leopard-gp73-8re-17-3-intel-core-i7-8750h-8gb-ram-1tb-256gb-dysk-gtx1060-grafika-win10.bhtml#opis

 

MSI Leopard GP63 8RE

https://www.euro.com.pl/laptopy-i-netbooki/msi-leopard-gp63-8re-15-6-intel-core-i7-8750h-8gb-ram-1tb-dysk-gtx1060-grafika-win10.bhtml

 

MSI Raider RGB 8RE GE73

https://www.euro.com.pl/laptopy-i-netbooki/msi-raider-rgb-8re-ge73-17-3-intel-core-i7-8750h-8gb-ram-1tb-256gb-dysk-gtx1060-grafika-win10.bhtml

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GL504GS runs hot. Not recommended

MSI GP and GE Raider are good

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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44 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

GL504GS runs hot. Not recommended

MSI GP and GE Raider are good

Thanks,

 

Would you indicate me the difference between GP and GE?

And also, if I'm not mistaken GL504GM has less problem with hotness than GS?

 

Thanks!

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1 minute ago, Menace_2_Society said:

Would you indicate me the difference between GP and GE?

Design and material used are slightly different. Some extra features like RGB

Cooling and 120Hz panel are the same. Input devices too.

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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