Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
Tristerin

Audio Newb. HTPC Media Center questions

Recommended Posts

Posted · Original PosterOP

Disclaimer - never have been and never was an audiophile - so I know nothing of terminology, and how-to/why-cause. 

 

Over the last few months I have been putting together a media center since planned obsolescence with Fire Sticks and their ilk (I have all of them, roku's, 4k boxes, off brand, branded blah blah blah) have wasted my time and money. 

 

Tower - HP Pro 6300 Microtower audio codec (Realtek 2-channel ALC221 codec) and information best displayed here https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03382665#AbT7

(PC specs in signature)

1 open 5.25" bay

1 open PCI-Ex1 slot

(can make things happen if its worth it, splitters, risers frankenmods galore!)

 

Currently running HDMI sound passthrough to my TV from the HD 7750 GPU.  I have only the line outs on the motherboard specs.  My TV has HDMI, Audio in/out RCA ports, Optical Audio port and a green line in port.

 

My thoughts were to get a Sound Card, somehow passed through the TV into a future 5.1 channel surround Receiver to speaker setup (or passthrough to just a decent soundbar and woofer)

 

But since I don't know what it takes figured Id ask here before making purchases or looking into products.  My guess is a DAC means Dedicated Audio Card?  I promise I didn't google just perused the forums and noticed that acronym quite a few times!

 

Thanks!

 


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

My guess is a DAC means Dedicated Audio Card?

DAC means Digital to Analog Converter


Main system:

Enthoo Primo, X99 Rampage V, 16GB Ripjaws, i7 5820K, 500GB 970 EVO, 1TB 850 EVO, GTX 1080Ti SLI, EKWB custom Water cooling, Acer X34.

Obutto R3volution racing sim, Logitech G27 w/Nardi wheel and custom button plate, Logitech Z906 surround sound.

 

HTPC:

Fractal Node 605, Asrock H110-M ITX, 16GB, i5 6500, 2 X 500GB EVO, GTX 1080, 4TB WD, Samsung Q8F 65"

 

2nd system:

Fractal R5, Asus Z-97 A, 16GB, i7 4790K, 240GB 840 EVO, GTX 980Ti SLI, EKWB and Swiftech custom water cooling, Asus Swift PG278Q.

 

Laptop:

Acer Predator G9-793, i7-7700HQ, 16GB, GTX 1070, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 1080p display OC to 100Hz.

 

Headphones and DAC/AMP: 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO

Senucn-Audio DAC-Q5

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Havardr said:

DAC means Digital to Analog Converter

See, I knew I was a noob!  lol  Wanted to display my lack of understanding but took an educated guess lol


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you are using HDMI you do not need a sound card. And in the future if you are getting a receiver you would connect it with HDMI.


Main system:

Enthoo Primo, X99 Rampage V, 16GB Ripjaws, i7 5820K, 500GB 970 EVO, 1TB 850 EVO, GTX 1080Ti SLI, EKWB custom Water cooling, Acer X34.

Obutto R3volution racing sim, Logitech G27 w/Nardi wheel and custom button plate, Logitech Z906 surround sound.

 

HTPC:

Fractal Node 605, Asrock H110-M ITX, 16GB, i5 6500, 2 X 500GB EVO, GTX 1080, 4TB WD, Samsung Q8F 65"

 

2nd system:

Fractal R5, Asus Z-97 A, 16GB, i7 4790K, 240GB 840 EVO, GTX 980Ti SLI, EKWB and Swiftech custom water cooling, Asus Swift PG278Q.

 

Laptop:

Acer Predator G9-793, i7-7700HQ, 16GB, GTX 1070, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 1080p display OC to 100Hz.

 

Headphones and DAC/AMP: 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO

Senucn-Audio DAC-Q5

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

What exactly are you looking for? What's the goal of this audio system you're building? (what matters to you in this situation?)

I am looking for better than what I have with the final component yet to be selected - receiver and speakers, likely 5.1 surround.  My audio chip on my board is ancient (though I don't know what EXACTLY that means) and currently if I play an actual Blu Ray disc through VLC or Leawo software it sounds TERRIBLE (like its playing surround over 2 channel I think is the right way to describe it) so when internet is down I have to use an old Blu Ray player and I want a 1 stop shop for my Media

 

I want to make sure I have everything correct when I begin the choice of a Receiver - I.E. the correct connections, passthroughs, and a system that can adequately utilize the Receiver though Im not sure that's even a thing LOL

 

End goal - surround 5.1 with a woofer and minimal headaches getting to that point (with sound WORTH putting into 5.1 channel)

5 minutes ago, Havardr said:

If you are using HDMI you do not need a sound card. And in the future if you are getting a receiver you would connect it with HDMI.

So the way this hooks up would be HDMI out of GPU, into Receiver HDMI, out to TV HDMI and this would ensure my sounds and graphic output match up etc?  And then the receiver does its magic to amplify the speakers?

Sorry, am nub


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

My audio chip on my board is ancient (though 

The audio chip won't be used when you're using HDMI audio. The receiver handles the D/A conversion.

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

End goal - surround 5.1 with a woofer and minimal headaches getting to that point (with sound WORTH putting into 5.1 channel)

So the way this hooks up would be HDMI out of GPU, into Receiver HDMI, out to TV HDMI and this would ensure my sounds and graphic output match up etc?

Sorry, am nub

The receiver takes the audio and the video signal, it then decodes the audio data and uses that to send the right audio signal to each speaker in the setup. It won't do anything to the video stream, that will simply be passed on to the TV.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

HDMI out of GPU, into Receiver HDMI, out to TV HDMI

Correct.


Main system:

Enthoo Primo, X99 Rampage V, 16GB Ripjaws, i7 5820K, 500GB 970 EVO, 1TB 850 EVO, GTX 1080Ti SLI, EKWB custom Water cooling, Acer X34.

Obutto R3volution racing sim, Logitech G27 w/Nardi wheel and custom button plate, Logitech Z906 surround sound.

 

HTPC:

Fractal Node 605, Asrock H110-M ITX, 16GB, i5 6500, 2 X 500GB EVO, GTX 1080, 4TB WD, Samsung Q8F 65"

 

2nd system:

Fractal R5, Asus Z-97 A, 16GB, i7 4790K, 240GB 840 EVO, GTX 980Ti SLI, EKWB and Swiftech custom water cooling, Asus Swift PG278Q.

 

Laptop:

Acer Predator G9-793, i7-7700HQ, 16GB, GTX 1070, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 1080p display OC to 100Hz.

 

Headphones and DAC/AMP: 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO

Senucn-Audio DAC-Q5

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

The audio chip won't be used when you're using HDMI audio. The receiver handles the D/A conversion.

The receiver takes the audio and the video signal, it then decodes the audio data and uses that to send the right audio signal to each speaker in the setup. It won't do anything to the video stream, that will simply be passed on to the TV.

 

1 minute ago, Havardr said:

Correct.

 

Oh...wow, well this is a little more simpler to understand than I expected.  Fully ready to shell out $100+ for a sound card LOL

 

So now it comes to the Receiver and Speakers I choose for the quality of sound (not the other hardware I have) - well then - I will be perusing my shopping website and come here for advice! 

 

Looking to spend $150-200 on an ON SALE receiver, Pioneer, Onkyo, sometimes I can see a Harmon Kardon for that price on sale on Newegg - any brands I should STAY away from, anyones I should consider potentially over that budget that will FUTURE proof it?  Any input/outputs I should consider because some are ANCIENT and some are FUTURE proof?

 

As for speakers, should I wait until a Reciever is selected or better to buy the entire system for compatibility?  I figured speakers are where the REAL money is spent based on my perusal of websites.

 

Thank you all so much!

 


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites

If you are going for a 4k tv in the future you should make sure the receiver can handle HDMI 2.0 and 4k signal.


Main system:

Enthoo Primo, X99 Rampage V, 16GB Ripjaws, i7 5820K, 500GB 970 EVO, 1TB 850 EVO, GTX 1080Ti SLI, EKWB custom Water cooling, Acer X34.

Obutto R3volution racing sim, Logitech G27 w/Nardi wheel and custom button plate, Logitech Z906 surround sound.

 

HTPC:

Fractal Node 605, Asrock H110-M ITX, 16GB, i5 6500, 2 X 500GB EVO, GTX 1080, 4TB WD, Samsung Q8F 65"

 

2nd system:

Fractal R5, Asus Z-97 A, 16GB, i7 4790K, 240GB 840 EVO, GTX 980Ti SLI, EKWB and Swiftech custom water cooling, Asus Swift PG278Q.

 

Laptop:

Acer Predator G9-793, i7-7700HQ, 16GB, GTX 1070, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 1080p display OC to 100Hz.

 

Headphones and DAC/AMP: 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO

Senucn-Audio DAC-Q5

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

As for speakers, should I wait until a Reciever is selected or better to buy the entire system for compatibility?  I figured speakers are where the REAL money is spent based on my perusal of websites.

The order of importance of speakers in a 5.1 is roughly: front center speaker > front left/right speakers > subwoofer > rear speakers > side speakers. So make sure the money is in the front speakers and the sub for the best experience. Sure rear and side speakers are important, but they're not doing the majority of the "work". 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Havardr said:

If you are going for a 4k tv in the future you should make sure the receiver can handle HDMI 2.0 and 4k signal.

Yes will be going 4k thank you for this tidbit of info to remember!  Havent pulled the trigger yet because haven't done my research yet

 

2 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

The order of importance of speakers in a 5.1 is roughly: front center speaker > front left/right speakers > subwoofer > rear speakers > side speakers. So make sure the money is in the front speakers and the sub for the best experience. Sure rear and side speakers are important, but they're not doing the majority of the "work". 

 

Thank you!  Will absolutely remember this!

 

So is HDMI 2.0 currently the new standard?  I.E. Optical Audio Ive never used but its been around for a while, is this a dinosaur port?  Or is this the new standard for convenience as well due to video and audio on one cable?


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Tristerin said:

So is HDMI 2.0 currently the new standard?  I.E. Optical Audio Ive never used but its been around for a while, is this a dinosaur port?  Or is this the new standard for convenience as well due to video and audio on one cable?

 Optical audio and HDMI don't sound different, they're both digital audio and therefore sound equally good, HDMI is probably just a more convenient solution here. Your computer doesn't have an optical output anyway right?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, akio123008 said:

 Optical audio and HDMI don't sound different, they're both digital audio and therefore sound equally good, HDMI is probably just a more convenient solution here. Your computer doesn't have an optical output anyway right?

Correct - my follow up was going to be (depending on your response) would it be prudent to get a sound card at all but sounds like the question was answered by you in that statement :)

 

Or maybe this question - is Optical Output currently being utilized to its Max?  I.E. would it be prudent to ensure I have one of those input and output on the receiver in case things continue to extrapolate out and Optical has more range (Im not sure how to express what I am saying in audio terms...like how bandwidth affect things, is HDMI 2.0 being fully utilized while Optical still has generational leaps to go?)

 

Sorry if I am asking wrong/stupid/ignorant questions - still claiming full nub status over here.


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites

Because HDMI is far more popular, it is more likely to be invested in, and therefore less likely to become obsolete than optical audio. Both could technically be improved and have "leaps to go", but again, HDMI is more likely to be invested in.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Bandwith wise, HDMI 2.0 is leaps ahead of optical. 

You can't get Dolby true HD or DTSHD over optical.

 


Main system:

Enthoo Primo, X99 Rampage V, 16GB Ripjaws, i7 5820K, 500GB 970 EVO, 1TB 850 EVO, GTX 1080Ti SLI, EKWB custom Water cooling, Acer X34.

Obutto R3volution racing sim, Logitech G27 w/Nardi wheel and custom button plate, Logitech Z906 surround sound.

 

HTPC:

Fractal Node 605, Asrock H110-M ITX, 16GB, i5 6500, 2 X 500GB EVO, GTX 1080, 4TB WD, Samsung Q8F 65"

 

2nd system:

Fractal R5, Asus Z-97 A, 16GB, i7 4790K, 240GB 840 EVO, GTX 980Ti SLI, EKWB and Swiftech custom water cooling, Asus Swift PG278Q.

 

Laptop:

Acer Predator G9-793, i7-7700HQ, 16GB, GTX 1070, 512GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 1080p display OC to 100Hz.

 

Headphones and DAC/AMP: 

Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO

Senucn-Audio DAC-Q5

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, akio123008 said:

Because HDMI is far more popular, it is more likely to be invested in, and therefore less likely to become obsolete than optical audio. Both could technically be improved and have "leaps to go", but again, HDMI is more likely to be invested in.

 

1 hour ago, Havardr said:

Bandwith wise, HDMI 2.0 is leaps ahead of optical. 

You can't get Dolby true HD or DTSHD over optical.

 

 

Thank you both so much for your assistance this afternoon.  I will absolutely be utilizing this Forum once I decide to make some purchases. 

It was really nice to be engaged with, without snide comments or remarks against my intelligence regarding Audio - Im new to LTT because I stopped using forums a year or so ago because of how Toms Hardware folks treat each other - wasn't impressed with the people there or Admins and spent to much time upset reading posts there lol.


Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4 ATX, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM (+100mhz core clock), 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiator, 128gb Patriot Scorch NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  DSI 90-Key Mechanical Keyboard w/ Cherry Red switches, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Hannspree HF207 and Acer AL2016W monitors

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

Dwight: The Mixed Metals Loop Media Center.  Ask me about it.  Currently decommissioned to move to an mATX setup on a new MOBO once I pick one out

Schrute: ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0, FX 8350, 2x Gigabyte HD 7850 2gb GPUs in crossfire, 16gb (4x4) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz, Sparkle/FSP 650w PSU, PCCOOLING 160w TDP air cooler, 60gb Patriot SSD Win 10 boot drive, 1tb WDBlack HDD, Rosewill Nautilus 1.0 case.  Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse, Roku 55" 4k TV

Micro Form Factor Dell OptiPlex 3040: Dell 0MGK50 A02, i3-6100T, 2x4gb DDR3 1600, Team Group 120gb SSD, 500gb Seagate 7mm HDD attached storage, Windows 10 Pro, Logitech K400+, USB Wifi adapter all vesa mounted to the back of a 37" 1080p TV for form factor in the kitchen

Linux Box: Toshiba Laptop, i7 620M, NVS graphics, 2gb ram tinker toy at the moment.  Running Manjaro at the moment

APU Laptop: I need to clean this things TIM up so it can boot into Windows 7 for more than 5 minute before overheating at idle, it has things, I just haven't been on it in 2 years or so

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×