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Windows Subsystem for Linux - please Linus, make a video on that

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I see around lots and lots of cygwin, "which os whould i use, i need both" and bla bla bla, and it seemed to me like the entire world is not acknowledging that awesome feature Windows 10 gives everyone access too: Windows Subsystem for Linux. Why doesn't Linus do a youtube video about that, so people will know?

You can run natively on Windows most of linux software without virtualization or reboot, it's just awesome!

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On 9/10/2018 at 9:39 AM, Barnack said:

I see around lots and lots of cygwin, "which os whould i use, i need both" and bla bla bla, and it seemed to me like the entire world is not acknowledging that awesome feature Windows 10 gives everyone access too: Windows Subsystem for Linux. Why doesn't Linus do a youtube video about that, so people will know?

You can run natively on Windows most of linux software without virtualization or reboot, it's just awesome!

That might be interesting.

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20 hours ago, duncannah said:

Can't beat a VM

i've not done any test with performance profiling purpose, all i can say is if you're programming a non-graphical program for linux targets and your main os is windows it beats BY FAR emulation. You don't have to launch a whole other OS, in case you're on a laptop you don't have to run a battery killing VM. You just run the linux task you need on top on Windows. There are many ways in which that beats a VM.

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On 9/10/2018 at 12:39 PM, Barnack said:

I see around lots and lots of cygwin, "which os whould i use, i need both" and bla bla bla, and it seemed to me like the entire world is not acknowledging that awesome feature Windows 10 gives everyone access too: Windows Subsystem for Linux. Why doesn't Linus do a youtube video about that, so people will know?

You can run natively on Windows most of linux software without virtualization or reboot, it's just awesome!

Some of us where I work use Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

It makes no sense to use a VM anymore for development. VM limits you access to resource (RAM, storage and CPU), with WSL you have full access like a native Windows application.

 

The only big distro that is missing is Fedora/CentOS. Fedora was supposed to be the early Linux distro out for WSL, but it got stuck with Red Hat Lawyers and staying there, floating probably on some backlog with 0 interest of having any push as probably Red Hat is not making money from it, who knows.

 

CLion for Windows got updated with WSL support, which is quite exciting.

 

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On 9/28/2018 at 9:45 PM, GoodBytes said:

Some of us where I work use Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

It makes no sense to use a VM anymore for development. VM limits you access to resource (RAM, storage and CPU), with WSL you have full access like a native Windows application.

The WSL doesn't let you run an x-server though, so gui applications aren't really a possibility. I last used it in 1607, does the WSL allow you to run network stack applications like ping in newer versions of Windows?

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5 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

The WSL doesn't let you run an x-server though, so gui applications aren't really a possibility. I last used it in 1607, does the WSL allow you to run network stack applications like ping in newer versions of Windows?

You can install an x-server..server for Windows. They are tutorials online to set it up, so that you can run GUI Linux programs. :)

You can ping :)

Microsoft has been improving WSL at each version of Windows 10

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Just now, GoodBytes said:

You can install an x-server..server for Windows. They are tutorials online to set it up, so that you can run GUI Linux programs. :)

You can ping :)

Microsoft has been improving WSL at each version of Windows 10

do the gui apps take full advantage of your gpu?

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19 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

do the gui apps take full advantage of your gpu?

I don't think so. The method basically consist on installing an ssh server and then connecting through a client with x11 forwarding enabled.

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WSL is pretty shitty and very unstable compared to a VM, like all you would need to do it run a Linux VM headless, use putty to ssh into it with X forwarding, and use something like xming, and you that will be much better than the WSL equivalent that can barely run Firefox after you botch the x forwarding of WSL

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On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 2:42 AM, Shoe_Eater said:

WSL is pretty shitty and very unstable compared to a VM, like all you would need to do it run a Linux VM headless, use putty to ssh into it with X forwarding, and use something like xming, and you that will be much better than the WSL equivalent that can barely run Firefox after you botch the x forwarding of WSL

for anything that does not require a gui it's actually amazingly stable, and compared to a vm it directly uses the needed resources from your system, no need to cut out more system resources than you'd actually need and keep them locked until you close the vm

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On 9/28/2018 at 9:45 PM, GoodBytes said:

It makes no sense to use a VM anymore for development. VM limits you access to resource (RAM, storage and CPU), with WSL you have full access like a native Windows application.

In the future they should also add access to GPU suitable for cuda applications, not possible to use 3D capabilities today

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On 9/10/2018 at 10:39 AM, Barnack said:

I see around lots and lots of cygwin, "which os whould i use, i need both" and bla bla bla, and it seemed to me like the entire world is not acknowledging that awesome feature Windows 10 gives everyone access too: Windows Subsystem for Linux. Why doesn't Linus do a youtube video about that, so people will know?

You can run natively on Windows most of linux software without virtualization or reboot, it's just awesome!

While this is a very cool feature, it wouldn't really reach most of LTT's audience. The very large majority of LTT's audience doesn't give a shit about linux if it doesn't involve gaming. Hell, I'd say that the very large majority of LTT's audience doesn't know their way around a bash shell. 

 

I think the video would be really short. Like "hey look you can run linux in windows and it's super easy to setup." 

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Well, as a Linux user i have to say that this is interesting atleast. But the chances of me actually using it is zero. I'm more likely to dump Windows forever at some point in time :P

 

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9 hours ago, AbsoluteFool said:

Well, as a Linux user i have to say that this is interesting atleast. But the chances of me actually using it is zero. I'm more likely to dump Windows forever at some point in time :P

 

thats sad but to each their own

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