*UPDATED 9/5/2018* Tom's Hardware's Editor in Chief's Controversial RTX Article

[mr moose]

Just now, Sauron said:

Yes, but angular resolution is completely unrelated to what we talk about referring to screens - mainly in that it depends on distance. It also doesn't work on a fixed grid, as you said your brain does a good job of piecing together a set of data over some time.

No it's not, angular resolution is totally related,  The angular resolution of the eye will determine the resolution required in a screen (for a set distance) where it can no longer see individual pixels.

[mr moose]

3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Well, I mean he made a bunch of outlandish/illogical claims and disses his own employee while ranting.  So, uh...

Thus proving it's not hard to mis-represent science and facts when on a crusade to promote a personal opinion.

[S w a t s o n]

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how this plays out. I'm sure this new Editor in Chief will take this criticism humbly and make amends for the transgressions.

 

Oh wait, this is Tom's Hardware.

[S w a t s o n]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

So can we now call them Tom'sShittyHW in honor of being the new Shittech?

This isn't Tom's first shitstorm and I highly suspect not their last. I kind of write them off for anything other than scraping specs or architecture information from reviews or their forum

[mr moose]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

So can we now call them Tom'sShittyHW in honor of being the new Shittech?

tomsccftechardware ?

[asus killer]

He already responded to the criticism. Exact quote:

 

" life is short so grab all the money you can, ethics are overrated"

[SteveGrabowski0]

God I thought JayTwoCents video was bad but that TomsHardware crap  

[PlayStation 2]

See, I've never cared for Tom's Hardware, and this just gives me another reason to not care for them.

[Bouzoo]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

Funny thing is I actually own more ATi/AMD cards than Nvidia.

ATi/AMD I owned were ATi Rage XL, 128, HD 2900XT, and HD5850

Nvidia cards, GeForce FX5200 and 6600GT.

My brother from FX5200. Worst card I ever owned. 

[Unixsystem]

5 hours ago, Spotty said:

If Condoms were sold like PC parts

Standard Edition - $6.99 for pack of 24
MTBF: 6 minutes

Pro Edition - $9.99 for pack of 12
MTBF: 8 hours

RGB Edition - $14.99 for pack of 12
MTBF: 13 seconds

Just don't preorder the Father's Edition.

 

It's a really bad value.

[NumLock21]

23 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

My brother from FX5200. Worst card I ever owned. 

For me it wasn't, then again back then performance wasn't the reason i went with it. It support dx9 and it was cheap.

[Whiskers]

This article really is bordering on insanity.

 

Real-time raytracing in a video game is impressive for sure, and I'm excited to see it adopted and improved upon over time. But that's the kicker; even if performance with RTX enabled is impressive it's ultimately meaningless if developers don't implement support for it in their games. And in spite of NVIDIA's boisterous claims that it "just works" it definitely requires the not inconsiderable effort of the game's development team to implement. I think that even if we're thinking of an ideal scenario, the first-gen RTX release is never going to have instant and widespread adoption - it will take time for developers to gauge their interest in it, let alone test and implement it. By the time developer adoption becomes more widespread the first gen lineup will probably be borderline antiquated. I entirely agree with Linus' comments on last night's WAN show here.

 

The biggest concern for RTX in my view is the technology that'll go into the next-gen consoles. It's unlikely they'll feature an NVIDIA GPU and so far AMD haven't announced (or even been rumoured to have) a competing real-time raytracing implementation (Radeon Rays isn't the same thing). If all they have is support for software-implemented raytracing then it's very possible that developer adoption of RTX could suffer strongly as a result for the vast majority of multi-platform games.

[Dionyz]

Honestly this article could have done the argument but it approached it totally wrong. This is what I would do if I were to ask to buy it now.

1) You can resell it for higher price due to Shortages.

2) You can get a refund if you don't like it.

3) By the time you get the card performance numbers will be posted (assuming you were on the first back order), so effectively you can cancel the order if you don't like the performance numbers. It's much easier method of getting a refund.

 

This is basically a no risk and high reward method. But the article went totally a different way in forcing it's opinion about a product before it's launched. 

 

[Okjoek]

"Do you want to die knowing you've never played a ray-traced game?!?!?!?"

 

Me: *shrugs*

 

[Mihle]

2 hours ago, mr moose said:

No it's not, angular resolution is totally related,  The angular resolution of the eye will determine the resolution required in a screen (for a set distance) where it can no longer see individual pixels.

What resolution you stop noticing individual pixels does not mean having even higher doesn't make any difference. In fact, you can notice. Image still becomes sharper after you stop noticing individual pixels.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

For me it wasn't, then again back then performance wasn't the reason i went with it. It support dx9 and it was cheap.

Same reason old CGN cards are awsome today.

[descendency]

This is about the quality of article I have come to expect from Tomshardware. They're not much better than CNET, if at all. 

[Bananasplit_00]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

For me it wasn't, then again back then performance wasn't the reason i went with it. It support dx9 and it was cheap.

 

2 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

My brother from FX5200. Worst card I ever owned. 

Got an FX5500 and a FX5800, the 5500 overclocks like a BEAST!

[DildorTheDecent]

TH look to be pretty desperate since nobody uses them anymore.

Sad!

[Exotath]

This guy has lost his freaking mind.

[mr moose]

2 hours ago, Mihle said:

What resolution you stop noticing individual pixels does not mean having even higher doesn't make any difference. In fact, you can notice. Image still becomes sharper after you stop noticing individual pixels.

 

 

Remember this is the maximum:

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6/6 vision is defined as the ability to resolve two points of light separated by a visual angle of one minute of arc, or about 320–386 pixels per inch for a display on a device held 25 to 30 cm from the eye

So if you cannot resolve the difference between two points of light at said density and distance, then it doesn't matter how many more pixels you put in between because your eyes can't see them.  It just becomes a blur.

[Guest]

Why are people getting so cut up about an opinion piece? It's the opinion of an individual, not a review.

[leadeater]

17 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Why are people getting so cut up about an opinion piece? It's the opinion of an individual, not a review.

Because literally telling people to just buy the cards, before actual release and reviews, is insane. You can do a positive opinion piece on Nvidia, RTX and Ray Tracing without telling people to just buy the cards with only Nvidia marketing hype to inform you of the product.

[SolarNova]

LOL every1 is getting trolled so hard.

 

Its a troll article, or if u like, a sarcastic one.

 

There is no way a person could write that with a straight face or even mean it. Seriously ..... I dont get why people are discussing it.

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

There is no way a person could write that with a straight face or even mean it. Seriously ..... I dont get why people are discussing it.

Watch some Alex Jones, CNN, David Hogg, and tell us that you still think that there is no way someone could write this article as a serious piece.