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16 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

I mean, sure?? I'm pretty happy with what I have right now. Does that take away from their being less-than-transparent? I don't think so. 

Funnily enough this is the most transparent Nvidia has ever been. We're getting the 2070, 2080 and the flagship 2080 Ti all on launch day and the naming is accurate. It just so happens that people didn't quite realise that prices had shifted upwards a whole tier last generation because the Titan naming threw them off. Just look at the Pascal Titan X. It's basically a 1080Ti.


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18 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

This announcement was back in June, if I recall correctly. Had it been a year, maybe I would have been a little more forgiving. "A very long time" seems like it should be longer than three months to me. 

It's actually close to 4 months because the announcement was on the 5th of June and now you need to count another month until the cards are available. 

 

During that time (June) everyone kind of expected new card in a week or two so him saying "not in a long time" which resulted in 4 months is quite accurate in my book.


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Just now, Castdeath97 said:

The 2060 better beat the pants of the 1080, else it would feel like a pretty meh card.

Time will tell... I think the better position to be in right now is a watchful waiting one... Save up as much as you can and wait for the actual release and hope that cryptocurrency mining doesnt resurge


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For the stupid prices of these cards, and the price confusion alone, I hate this generation of video cards already. They're too expensive.


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2 minutes ago, Carclis said:

Funnily enough this is the most transparent Nvidia has ever been. We're getting the 2070, 2080 and the flagship 2080 Ti all on launch day and the naming is accurate. It just so happens that people didn't quite realise that prices had shifted upwards a whole tier last generation because the Titan naming threw them off. Just look at the Pascal Titan X. It's basically a 1080Ti.

Yeah I think people would be less mad if the cards announced were RTX 2080, RTX 2080ti and RTX Titan with the same prices ;-)


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2 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

But it also works as a standard display output.

I guess it should... wont know for sure until reviews come in. Theoretically speaking it should support Alt-Mode and be able to supply displayport over the connection


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Just now, Techicolors said:

might be mentioned already but i wonder if the 1000 series cards pricing will change at all 

There has not been any mention of 1000 series being discounted just that the 20 series is expensive.

 

I'm sure come release day in september prices of Pascal would come down


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1 minute ago, Techicolors said:

might be mentioned already but i wonder if the 1000 series cards pricing will change at all 

Nope. The prices for the 980 is still around the same price. They are just now tiering the price upwards.

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8 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If you're poor, you shouldn't be buying a flagship GPU, or even a mid tier, really. Priorities.

That's a poor argument.

Was it a poor argument though? Or just a funny observation regarding an incredibly stupid statement?

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1 minute ago, RyzenDoctor said:

There has not been any mention of 1000 series being discounted just that the 20 series is expensive.

 

I'm sure come release day in september prices of Pascal would come down

Not sure, as there is a major price difference between 1080 and 2080, why decrease the price, they are not competing? I expect a 10-15% price decrease from shops, but nothing that was unseen before

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15 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If you're poor, you shouldn't be buying a flagship GPU, or even a mid tier, really. Priorities.

That's a poor argument.

"Poor people shouldn't buy anything but a GTX 1030 DDR4"
"Poor people shouldn't eat fast food"

"Poor people shouldn't have kids"
"Poor people shouldn't do x because fuck enjoying your life even a little if you're poor"

How about people do what people want

 

Pretty disgusting statement imo, if you're poor you can still save to make a purchase

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12 minutes ago, Carclis said:

We're getting the 2070?, 2080 and the flagship 2080 Ti all on launch day 

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They generally release things staggered.


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I hope not all the 2080ti's are going to be 3 slots, otherwise people that have sff systems are going to have a bad time.


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Just now, mr.squishy said:

I hope not all the 2080ti's are going to be 3 slots, otherwise people that have sff systems are going to have a bad time.

Founders and Gigabyte Windforce (Not gaming) are 2 slot i think, probably others

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13 minutes ago, Lathlaer said:

Yeah I think people would be less mad if the cards announced were RTX 2080, RTX 2080ti and RTX Titan with the same prices ;-)

I'm still betting on a 12GB, full-core-count Titan to be launched by Christmas time.  My credit card is parked until then.


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It's basically pascal refresh with gddr6 and fancy new rtx cores.


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Just now, Swatson said:

and tensor cores

and it's all overpriced for what it is. Why else haven't they shown off some real world benchmarks instead of just ray tracing stuff?


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1 minute ago, xriqn said:

and it's all overpriced for what it is. Why else haven't they shown off some real world benchmarks instead of just ray tracing stuff?

Because ray tracing is the big deal. Nvidia doesn't usually show benchmarks at product announcements. We'll see them on release as usual. Plus we know the cuda core power is 14tflops vs 11.3 tflops for 1080ti so you can make some estimates, however the 14TIPS (not tflops) may help further than the tflop estimate shows

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5 minutes ago, Commodus said:

It's silly that people are shocked at any tech company doing this.  What did you think NVIDIA would say? "Yeah, we totally have new stuff coming in a few months, please don't buy anything right now?"  Of course not.  The company isn't going to give you vague hints or non-answers, either.

 

Companies are often fine with knowledgeable customers holding back, but what they don't want to do is create an Osborne Effect where sales plummet across the board after they effectively pre-announce a new product.  That's not malicious; that's a basic business survival tactic.

 

Curb your condescension. They could've very easily refrained from responding in that situation. They really didn't need to mislead with vague wording like "a long time".

 

It's not like I was suggesting that they just reveal every little move they were going to make for the next year. I just happen to think it was a "dick move" for them to kill off any hype surrounding their new products so that they could enjoy stable sales for a few months. I mean, this isn't necessarily surprising, considering their track record. Do you really think it would have cost them an arm and a leg to be a little more transparent? 

 

Just now, Lathlaer said:

It's actually close to 4 months because the announcement was on the 5th of June and now you need to count another month until the cards are available. 

 

During that time (June) everyone kind of expected new card in a week or two so him saying "not in a long time" which resulted in 4 months is quite accurate in my book.

I guess that's a fair point. My gripe is that he could have refrained from answering altogether, and have left it up to our judgement. His "long time" statement just tipped over the people who were on the fence about buying a graphics card back then, at least from my anecdotal experience.


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1 minute ago, Swatson said:

Because ray tracing is the big deal. Nvidia doesn't usually show benchmarks at product announcements. We'll see them on release as usual. Plus we know the cuda core power is 14tflops vs 11.3 tflops for 1080ti so you can make some estimates, however the 14TIPS (not tflops) may help further than the tflop estimate shows

So overall performance difference probably isn't even going to be that massive.


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2 minutes ago, xriqn said:

So overall performance difference probably isn't even going to be that massive.

Comparable to Pascal vs Maxwell i would guess

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complaining about price and tiers hahaha

tiers always change just like price and no competition and we all know ram prices are bad right now

 

 

they brought a new product and possibly new shit like ray tracing out when they didnt have any competition in highend so blame them

 

they know how much 1080ti they sold last gen and many people have them so upping the price is also indicator they can raise the price like apple did on their iphones

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