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A teen from Australia was able to remotely access confidential information data on Apple's servers for over a year

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6 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

You can hack wi-fi access points, brute-force passwords, inject payloads in python scripts or exe files and a LOT more stuff that could do real damage. Sounds like hacking software to me.

So basically every OS ever.

 

Maybe we need to ban every OS and all computers!

 

Gotta stahp people from being able to hack instead of stopping people from wanting to for bad purposes!

 

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42 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Pretty sure Kali Linux isn't hacking software.

You'd be wrong. Kali Linux, and its predecessor BackTrack, are Linux distributions created for the explicit purpose on penetration testing and network security assessment, which is a form of hacking. Hell, Offensive Security themselves state that the intended use for Kali is ethical hacking.

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4 hours ago, samcool55 said:

You can hack wi-fi access points, brute-force passwords, inject payloads in python scripts or exe files and a LOT more stuff that could do real damage. Sounds like hacking software to me.

Kali is marketed as a pentesting tool and ethical hacking software so i think you can be sure it IS hacking software.

You can do all that in any linux distro and even on windows. Kali just comes with a lot of pentesting software preinstalled. The "hacking" software is what is installed on it, not the distro itself. Besides, all of those are tools - what you do with them is up to you.

 

You can do some "hacking" with just a web browser and an internet connection for that matter, I don't think chrome counts as hacking software though.

3 hours ago, Drak3 said:

You'd be wrong. Kali Linux, and its predecessor BackTrack, are Linux distributions created for the explicit purpose on penetration testing and network security assessment, which is a form of hacking. Hell, Offensive Security themselves state that the intended use for Kali is ethical hacking.

See above, it may be nitpicking but technically kali itself isn't hacking software any more than ubuntu.

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9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

You can do all that in any linux distro and even on windows. Kali just comes with a lot of pentesting software preinstalled. The "hacking" software is what is installed on it, not the distro itself. Besides, all of those are tools - what you do with them is up to you.

 

You can do some "hacking" with just a web browser and an internet connection for that matter, I don't think chrome counts as hacking software though.

See above, it may be nitpicking but technically kali itself isn't hacking software any more than ubuntu.

It's about Intent. The purpose of Ubuntu is to be a desktop Linux distribution for users. The purpose of Kali *is* network penetration testing.

 

Like you said most "hacking" tools have non-hacking uses. What you use them for is up to you. What makes them hacking tools is that they were designed for that purpose, which Kali is.

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24 minutes ago, Sauron said:

You can do all that in any linux distro and even on windows. Kali just comes with a lot of pentesting software preinstalled. The "hacking" software is what is installed on it, not the distro itself. Besides, all of those are tools - what you do with them is up to you.

 

You can do some "hacking" with just a web browser and an internet connection for that matter, I don't think chrome counts as hacking software though.

See above, it may be nitpicking but technically kali itself isn't hacking software any more than ubuntu.

I just used kali as an example because it comes preinstalled with a bunch of hacking tools.

But having those tools at all is illegal where i live. Doesn't matter if you use kali, windows or another linux distro. Stuff like aircrack are specifically designed to hack wi-fi networks which isn't allowed...

 

If i install kali or whatever and add aircrack on a usb drive, go outside and the cops pull me over and find the USB drive, i might end up in court and eventually in jail and/or a fine.

 

Even if you never used them or only for ethical stuff. It's still illegal. Just having it is illegal.

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3 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

I just used kali as an example because it comes preinstalled with a bunch of hacking tools.

But having those tools at all is illegal where i live. Doesn't matter if you use kali, windows or another linux distro. Stuff like aircrack are specifically designed to hack wi-fi networks which isn't allowed...

 

If i install kali or whatever and add aircrack on a usb drive, go outside and the cops pull me over and find the USB drive, i might end up in court and eventually in jail and/or a fine.

 

Even if you never used them or only for ethical stuff. It's still illegal. Just having it is illegal.

That sucks :(. Where I live it's perfectly legal to have stuff like aircrack installed, what's illegal is to use it on someone else's network without permission. Is wireshark allowed? By itself it's completely harmless...

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3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

That sucks :(. Where I live it's perfectly legal to have stuff like aircrack installed, what's illegal is to use it on someone else's network without permission. Is wireshark allowed? By itself it's completely harmless...

Im actually not sure about wireshark, i guess it technically isn't illegal but good luck explaning that. Also if you combine it with other tools it could be seen as something that is a form of assistance when hacking and making other illegal tools more effective.

 

Its also illegal here to pentest systems from other people unless you have permission. Funny thing is that it IS legal to pentest your own devices...

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1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

Funny thing is that it IS legal to pentest your own devices...

Well, what with if pentesting tools are illegal? o.O

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Just now, Sauron said:

Well, what with if pentesting tools are illegal? o.O

I know, it's stupid and flawed but that's just the law i guess...

 

There is a similar stupid law for drugs. I don't know the exact numbers but let's say it's legal to have 5 grams of weed at your house. But it's illegal to transport it.

So if you go to the netherlands; buy 4 grams of weed (which is allowed) you can't legally transport them to your house, but once they are at your house it's fine again.

Like, how are you suppose to get the weed at your home in the first place if transporting it is illegal?

 

Stupidest thing is that the cops do regular checks for this at highways that are near the border...

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19 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

90GB? What is that, like 5 .FLAC songs? xD 

 

Too bad he didn’t go through Apples Bug bounty program. Could have made some cash from this. 

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19 hours ago, bleedblue said:

Australian teens hack Apple servers while I'm still trying to figure out how to use a macbook pro for work.

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Does this make Apple more likely or less likely to hire this teen? It's impressive for sure but they probably don't want to encourage this behavior from other wanna be Apple employees.

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