Is Ryzen really not worth it for gaming?

[dubisk]

So I am going to build a gaming pc for a friend of mine in a couple weeks, his budget is around 1000-1200€ and I'm already set on everything except the cpu-mobo. My primary choice would be the i3 8100, but I'm also really enticed by the idea of making him purchase a ryzen 5 2600 for about 50€ more, the thing is an i5 8400 would be around that price tag too. The guy wants to play stuff like battlefield 1 and CoD online, so I thought more CPU horsepower might benefit him. This would be paired with an rx 580, freesync monitor, 16 Gb of ram, ssd and hdd. What do you guys think, is the ryzen idea worthless in this context or should I keep it into consideration? 

[EPPHO]

i3 for a pc over 1k Euro sounds dumb

[Firewrath9]

a 2600 would be fine, so is the 8100, what are the prices for ryzen 1600? if its 30$+ cheaper then the 2600, get the 1600.

[Firewrath9]

id get a 8400 or 2600 for some upgradeablitiy.

[GoldenLag]

Id grab a 2600 to pair with the RX580.

[PlayStation 2]

If the most demanding thing he'll do is game, then I would go for the 8400 over the 2600.

[dubisk]

So currently the 1600 is only 18€ cheaper than the 2600 so I would prefer the latter at this point. I have watched some YouTube benchmarks and the i3 seems to keep up even with a R5 2600, hence my question.

[GoldenLag]

57 minutes ago, dubisk said:

So currently the 1600 is only 18€ cheaper than the 2600 so I would prefer the latter at this point. I have watched some YouTube benchmarks and the i3 seems to keep up even with a R5 2600, hence my question.

The 8100 will get slower and slower as newer titles come along. Meamwhile the 2600 will keep its speed for quite a while

[GoldenLag]

9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

The 8100 will get slower and slower as newer titles come along. Meamwhile the 2600 will keep its speed for quite a while

Also forgot to mention the 8100 has a very limited upgrade path. 

[nick name]

Is the new COD optimized for higher core counts? I haven't seen anyone review its performance with different CPUs yet. And I make mention because I assume developers will have a greater awareness of multi-core/thread optimization moving forward so a 2600 might do better in the future. 

[DrMacintosh]

Id say go with either Ryzen chip tbh. Intel just doesn't offer any value sentiment imo. 

[theyodaperson22]

I’d definitely go with the intel i5 8400

[brob]

6 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

The 8100 will get slower and slower as newer titles come along. Meamwhile the 2600 will keep its speed for quite a while

An i3-8100 will operate at the same speed in 10 years time as it does today. As will a 2600. As will an i5-8400.

 

The performance of new software on current cpu is pure speculation.

[GoldenLag]

4 hours ago, brob said:

An i3-8100 will operate at the same speed in 10 years time as it does today. As will a 2600. As will an i5-8400.

 

The performance of new software on current cpu is pure speculation.

The difference of 8 threads and 2 cores will boost performance significantly. Games are allready using 6 threads which saturates the 8400. Its not pure speculation, its an inevatability. 

 

All CPU vendors are increasing their core counts. Not long from now 4 cores is the same as 2 cores. 

 

Ever noticed that the fx 8350 aged better than the 2600? It because of thread/cores. Like the 8350 isnt good, but its aged better. 

[Shalmon]

20 hours ago, dubisk said:

So I am going to build a gaming pc for a friend of mine in a couple weeks, his budget is around 1000-1200€ and I'm already set on everything except the cpu-mobo. My primary choice would be the i3 8100, but I'm also really enticed by the idea of making him purchase a ryzen 5 2600 for about 50€ more, the thing is an i5 8400 would be around that price tag too. The guy wants to play stuff like battlefield 1 and CoD online, so I thought more CPU horsepower might benefit him. This would be paired with an rx 580, freesync monitor, 16 Gb of ram, ssd and hdd. What do you guys think, is the ryzen idea worthless in this context or should I keep it into consideration? 

i have a ryzen 3 1300x and i cant see any problem with running AAA games (except AC4 and ROTTR. they arent that well optimized anyways). And its 92 dollars for a Ryzen 3 1300x. i say its a good bet. gaming on ryzen is not completely a lost cause