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[REVIEW] Illegear Raven Laptop (i7-8750H, 1050TI)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Disclaimer: This is not a paid review. Thank you Illegear for loaning the review unit.

 

Hi everyone. This is my third review in LTT forum. I will be reviewing the Illegear Raven laptop. The review unit costs MYR 4912 (around USD 1208), specs of this review unit are as below:

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i7-8750H

GTX 1050TI 4GB

16GB 2400MHz RAM (single channel)

256GB Samsung PM961 SSD

Windows 10

A few notes before reading:

1. This is a straight forward review.
2. I only cover a few pictures here. Other pictures can be found from Illegear website.

3. My English Language is not that great since it's not my native language. I apologize if you find the review too simple and boring.

4. This review will be edited from time to time.

 

Edit: I have no idea why the pictures are so blurry, will fix soon

 

Part 1: Build quality, ports

The build quality is solid overall. It has aluminum brush body and lid which feels premium and most importantly, it’s not a fingerprint magnet. There’s little to no flex at the keyboard deck. Side and top of keyboard deck have slightly more flex but still good. The lid has some flex when some force is applied but nothing worrying. However, the lid can be twisted with some force and it has a bit of wobbling, which is normal for a single hinge laptop. The maximum angle when the lid is opened completely is about 150 degrees. You can open the lid with one finger. The laptop is advertised with 2.2kg weight and I can feel that it’s slightly lighter than my Legion Y520 (2.4kg as advertised). Quite portable.

 

Ports selection is excellent, see pictures in spoiler below. However, you may have some inconvenience if you wish to use the ports at the back when the charging cable is coming from the left (plugged in). Also, if you utilize the ports at the right, you might have some trouble with external mouse movements (assuming that you use your mouse with right hand).

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Right: SD card slot, 2 USB A 2.0, headphone jack, microphone jack

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Left: 2 USB A 2.0

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Rear: DC jack, HDMI, RJ45, 2 USB A 3.0/3.1, USB C, Kensington lock

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You need to press about 3 seconds to power on the laptop. I would like to see power and charging indication lights on the outside of the laptop (in other words, lights can be seen when the lid is closed)

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(Power on light, the light beside it is charging indicator light)

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Part 2: Input devices (featuring GENESWITCH mechanical keyboard v2)

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The mechanical keyboard is probably one of the most important features about this laptop. I really liked the innovation of bringing mechanical keyboard into laptops. Furthermore, mechanical switches usually have better reliability. Take note that everyone has their own preference on keyboards. I will evaluate the keyboard according to my own preference.

 

The switches are similar to blue switches. Actuation force is quite low and key travel is deep (3mm). The actuation point is around the middle of the key travel. Sometimes you can register a key without having the ‘click’ noise (or in other words, doesn’t need to exceed the actuation point). However, the key feel is too soft for me. The click sound (actuation point) is loud which isn’t ideal in quiet environments. For gaming, the keyboard is fine, however I prefer linear keys like red switches more. The layout is a bit special (especially right CTRL and SHIFT keys) and I always mistype the up key when trying to press right shift. It takes time to get used to the keyboard.

 

You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via the included software – Raven Command Center, see below. The keys are a bit difficult to be seen when the backlight is off.

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The touchpad (clickpad) uses Windows Precision drivers. It’s slightly elevated to the back. Gliding, gestures and tapping are smooth and accurate. The left and right clicks feel good quality. Surprisingly good for a gaming laptop.

 

Part 3: Display, audio, connectivity, battery life

The display is a FHD IPS/AHVA 60Hz, 45% NTSC panel, panel model is PANDA LM156LF1L02 (keep in mind that Illegear is constantly changing the display panel from time to time). There is an optional high refresh rate panel to choose from as well. This panel here is professional calibrated out of the box (+RM49). Viewing angles are good, colours are fine despite its low sRGB coverage. Brightness is normal for an IPS display. Despite a 60Hz IPS panel, it has no severe ghosting in games.

 

It has a few colour profiles for different purposes as shown below:

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The audio is TBH, a bit poor. Bass is lacking (it has subwoofer as advertised), sound is dull. However, you can tweak for a better audio via the Sound Blaster software (I tested the audio with the preset out of the box)

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Wi-Fi adapter is Intel 9560 which is an excellent wireless adapter.

 

This model has a 46Wh battery. After 2 hours and 15 minutes of typing document (40% brightness, no tweaking), battery life has dropped from 100% to 60%.

 

Part 4: Cooling performance

The cooling design consists of 2+2 seperate medium sized heatpipes with 2 seperate fans. Stock thermal paste is used.

 

All tests are tested at ambient temp of around 30C, gaming profile applied and in equilibrium performance mode (see below for more info). Laptop is plugged in. Under load, temperature will rise slowly as the fan noise will increase gradually until stabilized. Blue highlighted part is CPU+GPU undervolted result (-0.1V for both CPU and GPU).

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CPU temp - Aida64 FPU stress

Around 2750MHz@45W, 85-88C, near max fan speed

Around 3000MHz@45W, 85-88C, same fan speed

 

GPU temp - Unigine Heaven – high quality, normal tesselation, AA x8

80C 1721MHz

71C 1759MHz, slightly lower fan noise

 

CSGO - 1024x768, low settings, FXAA VSync Motion blur disabled

CPU: 73-77C, 3.5-3.9GHz, 29-32W

GPU: 62-63C, 1759MHz

Fan noise audible but at acceptable level

 

CPU: 69-72C, 3.5-3.9GHz, 28-31W

GPU: 58-60C, 1772MHz

Slightly reduced fan noise

 

CSGO - 1920x1080, high settings, FXAA VSync Motion blur disabled

CPU: 70-74C, >3GHz with some occasional 3.9GHz, 25-31W (more on that later)

GPU: 81-82C, 1721MHz

Fan noise increased but still below deafening level

 

CPU: 65-71C, >3GHz with some occasional 3.9GHz 20-25W

GPU: 72-73C, 1747MHz

Slightly reduced fan noise

 

Cinebench R15 multi core

~1020cb@~3.3GHz, 50W, 88C

~1120cb@3.5-3.6GHz, 50W, 88C

 

So why is the CPU performance during gaming so strange? The BIOS is set to limit the CPU performance when performing high load so that the total power draw doesn’t exceed the max wattage supplied by the charger (120W). The charger also runs a bit hot while gaming.

 

Also, CB15 multi core score cannot exceed 1200cb because it has a relatively low power limit 2 as shown below, thus the performance is limited. You cannot change the power limits via Intel XTU.

- PL1 45W, PL2 50W, 35W in games (very common for 8750H)

 

Under load, keyboard area (especially middle part) is warm but nothing alarming. The overall fan noise is a bit high but the noise has low-medium frequency/pitch, therefore not that distracting. The fans are very sensitive to temps as they can adjust the fan speed quickly according to the temps. Max core difference is 5C under load.

 

Note: i7-8750H CPU is a hot chip, not many laptop can handle this CPU well. 80-90C isn’t considered hot in stress tests assuming that there's no major throttling (eg Aida64 FPU)

 

One useful feature: You can set the fan speed manually in Office mode>Advanced setting. Anything from 45-65C and off/30-70% speed. With this feature you can avoid sudden ramping up of fans in light loads.

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One thing I need to mention is, M.2 SSD cooling isn’t bad. Idle temp is below 40C. <70C after 9 Crystaldiskmark sequential tests.

 

Part 5: Other settings

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Image projection: Raven ‘R’ logo under the chassis

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Conclusion: Good mid range gaming laptop with some extras

 

Pros: Good build quality, good cooling, tons of ports, not that flashy, useful software

 

Cons: Price of 8300H models can be more competitive, not everyone likes the mechanical keyboard (normal keyboard option coming soon), audio needs tuning, CPU performance issue caused by firmware

 

Thanks for reading! Feel free to leave your comment if you have any questions/inquiries/thoughts.


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Lenovo Legion Y530 Acer Aspire 5 Illegear Raven

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My Laptop - Legion Y530

Intel Core i5 8300H 2.3-4.0GHZ Samsung 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ RAM SC Samsung PM981 NVMe 256GB SSD+Seagate ST1000LM035 1TB 5400RPM HDD (spare) Nvidia GTX1050TI 2GB 144Hz LG IPS panel

 

Brother's Laptop - Aspire 5

Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6-3.4GHZ 4GB+4GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM WD 1TB HDD+Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB Nvidia MX150 2GB

My Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon 625, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)

 

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Only me read that as Illegal rather than Illegear? Had to actually open it to stop my confusion. Darn brain.


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Storage 1x 256 m.2, 1x 500 SSD, 3x HDDs   PSU Corsair 1000W  Cooling Thermalright Macho Rev B (tower)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

illegear


Laptop Reviews:

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Lenovo Legion Y520 - no.16 most viewed review in LTT forum (as of 25/11)

Lenovo Legion Y530 Acer Aspire 5 Illegear Raven

Laptop Specs:

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My Laptop - Legion Y530

Intel Core i5 8300H 2.3-4.0GHZ Samsung 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ RAM SC Samsung PM981 NVMe 256GB SSD+Seagate ST1000LM035 1TB 5400RPM HDD (spare) Nvidia GTX1050TI 2GB 144Hz LG IPS panel

 

Brother's Laptop - Aspire 5

Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6-3.4GHZ 4GB+4GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM WD 1TB HDD+Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB Nvidia MX150 2GB

My Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon 625, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)

 

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How to undervolt CPU and GPU in laptops

What are Clevo, Quanta and TongFang? (credits to @sicily428)

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6 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

illegear

Obviously :) Lack of sleep can make you see lots of things.


CPU R7 1700    Motherboard Asus Prime X370 Pro  RAM  16GB Corsair LPX 3000 (at 2933Mhz)    GPU EVGA GTX1070 SC  Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M    

Storage 1x 256 m.2, 1x 500 SSD, 3x HDDs   PSU Corsair 1000W  Cooling Thermalright Macho Rev B (tower)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, IPieLover said:

How upgradeable the laptop is? How many M.2 slot and SATA port does the laptop have?

I'm not allowed to open the laptop since it's a review unit. However from what I know the process isn't that difficult.

 

x1 2.5 inch bay, x2 M.2 PCIe slot


Laptop Reviews:

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Lenovo Legion Y520 - no.16 most viewed review in LTT forum (as of 25/11)

Lenovo Legion Y530 Acer Aspire 5 Illegear Raven

Laptop Specs:

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My Laptop - Legion Y530

Intel Core i5 8300H 2.3-4.0GHZ Samsung 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ RAM SC Samsung PM981 NVMe 256GB SSD+Seagate ST1000LM035 1TB 5400RPM HDD (spare) Nvidia GTX1050TI 2GB 144Hz LG IPS panel

 

Brother's Laptop - Aspire 5

Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6-3.4GHZ 4GB+4GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM WD 1TB HDD+Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB Nvidia MX150 2GB

My Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon 625, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)

 

Laptop recommender and enthusiast

How to undervolt CPU and GPU in laptops

What are Clevo, Quanta and TongFang? (credits to @sicily428)

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