Is Your Gaming Rig Being Bottlenecked??

[RedEagle3]

I didn't really understand bottle-necking, so after watching this video it make me think, this is probably happening to me...
From what I understand bottle-necking happens when your CPU can't push all the power the GPU can, and that slows the GPU.
Maybe i'm wrong (I probably am), so please correct me.

Now I ask the question, am I getting "bottle-necked"?
Specs:  (Note: this was a pre-built with a few upgrades)
Operating System: Windows 10 home 64-bit
CPU: AMD FX-4300 vishera 32nm technology
RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @802MHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 6.0 (socket M2)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (Gigabyte)
Storage: 931GB Toshiba DT01ACA100 ATA Device (SATA)
Power supply: EVGA 600 B1 100-B1-0600-KR 80+ BRONZE 600W

[kampfer5191]

4 minutes ago, RedEagle3 said:

I didn't really understand bottle-necking, so after watching this video it make me think, this is probably happening to me...
From what I understand bottle-necking happens when your CPU can't push all the power the GPU can, and that slows the GPU.
Maybe i'm wrong (I probably am), so please correct me.

Now I ask the question, am I getting "bottle-necked"?
Specs:  (Note: this was a pre-built with a few upgrades)
Operating System: Windows 10 home 64-bit
CPU: AMD FX-4300 vishera 32nm technology
RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @802MHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 6.0 (socket M2)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (Gigabyte)
Storage: 931GB Toshiba DT01ACA100 ATA Device (SATA)
Power supply: EVGA 600 B1 100-B1-0600-KR 80+ BRONZE 600W

i feel like your system is fine, just an old cpu. are you really clocked at 802MHz on your ram. i have corsair vengeance 8gb x2 clocked at 2400MHz. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

9 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Well yea I can see that... but a 8 year old GTX 550Ti bottlenecking my 8 year old Phenom chip? And that I should upgrade to a RX 570? That's not right.

This brings me to another point

 

The GPU does not bottleneck the CPU. The CPU does not care what the GPU is doing, how busy it is, etc. The CPU is not dependent on the GPU for anything that it can do. Sure, the CPU builds GPU commands, sends them to the GPU to process, and if the GPU is too busy, it'll probably drop them or delay sending the commands. But the CPU can still go "okay, I'll just go do something else"

Edited August 7, 2018 by M.Yurizaki

[FeardMessiah]

hey guys been wondering this for awhile now but i recently rebuilt my pc centered around an i7 4790k and i paired this with (since its lga 1150) 16gb of ddr3 gskill aegis 2666mghz and with a wd blue ssd and 2tb barracuda and a EVGA gtx 1070 TI and i was wanting to know since its my first custom build where might i expect any bottlenecking.  

[RedEagle3]

5 hours ago, kampfer5191 said:

i feel like your system is fine, just an old cpu. are you really clocked at 802MHz on your ram. i have corsair vengeance 8gb x2 clocked at 2400MHz. 

I'm not sure, that's just what it said on my spec list.

 

 

3 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

quick answer: if your games don't feel slow, don't think too much of it.

if you want your games to run on a higher graphic settings, that's where you try to figure out which is the one not pushing enough for better framerates.

 

it's not just the CPU and GPU by the way. various factors will cause various stuttering. Linus ran Doom on a system entirely on a USB 3.0 stick (card and the reader but it's still connected via USB so). the stutters come from slow loading of files, which a 7980XE and five Titan Xps won't solve.

 

 

quoting this particular piece because I think this is what's on everyone's minds right now, and I don't feel like the video hammered the "use case" part through.

My games don't feel slow, not at all actually, i'm just wondering if they can be even faster with a different CPU.

[killerspec]

Spec: 

Lenovo IdeaPad Z580

• CPU Intel Core i5 (3rd Gen) 3210M / 2.5 GHz
• Max Turbo Speed 3.1 GHz
• Number of Cores Dual-Core
• Cache 3 MB
• Chipset Type Mobile Intel HM76 Express
• Features Hyper-Threading Technology, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0, integrated memory controller
• Memory Speed 1600 MHz
• Memory Specification Compliance PC3-12800
• Configuration Features 2 x 4 GB
• Technology DDR3 SDRAM
• Installed Size 8 GB
• Rated Memory Speed 1600 MHz

OK I know my system is a lot older than most of builds you all see here but I am a student and I bought the laptop from an ex-class mate, €50 which I think was well worth it. I don't have cash to upgrade right now as I am doing my masters in software design and tbh the system as it stands does the work I need it for and when it comes to more intensive workload I have access to the game development pc's in college.

 

Right now to my question I am an avid World of Tanks player (I suck but love the game) I am wondering if there is any second hand options to help me get more fps and maybe a little better quality in my game experience that WON'T set me back more then €75 as that is what I have hidden away from my wife.

 

Kind regards 

 

Killerspec

[Mansoor Ahmad Khan]

CPU : i3-3220
GPU : Zotac 1050 2gb
RAM : 8gb Ddr3

i do only gaming on it but i feel like fps are not that increased after replacing my msi 6670 1gb dual fan edition.
suggest me something Linus. is my cpu way too old for 1050 ? 

@LinusTech
 

Edited August 10, 2018 by Mansoor Ahmad Khan
Complete edit

[mortenpg]

I have been serching high an low for at clue to what I should do. I like to play games like NFS Shift 2 (old days). Project cars., F1 2017 and battlefield 4. I have not been playing for ½ year. the reason is that I have studder in game more than low FPS(40-55 depending on game and settings)

 

My monitors are 3x 22" 1920*1200 60Hz.  RES will than max be 5760*1200. I can live with setting on 3x1680*1050 

CPU: I5-4670K @ stoc, watercooled so can be OC @10%+ 

GPU: 2x6990 1@artic twin turbo accelreo 1@ watercooled, both @ stoc, can be OC 

SSD 250GB 850

4x4GB DDR3 @ 2333MhZ

 

Bottleneck as I see it, is the 4x GPU's proberly most the 2GB VRAM?? I have looked at http://thebottlenecker.com/ but it is usless for my build with 3 screens as it does not take in the accound for the high res "3,33K".  

 

what Should I upgrade? I am not after a new build @ 1500$+ under 1000$ is a must. 500$ is better as I only play 4 times a month.

 

I am looking at getting a 1080TI as i have the 11Gb VRAM and not the 1070TI With 8GB. even there is a big $$ difference. is this a correct asumption? 

 

[Alex needs a name]

Hi guys, i was wondering if anyone has an idea if my build bottlenecks somehow, just curious if it's a proper build. I might do some upgrades in future.

 

Proccessor: I5-6400 @ 2.7gHz-3.3gHz

MB: Msi B150Gaming M3

Ram: 8Gb DDR4 Hyperx black 2133Mhz

GPU: Nvidia 1060GTX Aorus 6GB

Storage: Hdd 1 TB segate/125gb SSD kingston

Monitor: AOC 1080p 75hz

opreating system: Win10 Pro

 

I forgot to say that i stream and game a lot so yea... *tbh i feel some low performance when i stream games like overwatch, not smoother anymore*

Edited August 8, 2018 by Alex needs a name
forgot to add something

[Scary]

15 hours ago, Alex needs a name said:

Hi guys, i was wondering if anyone has an idea if my build bottlenecks somehow, just curious if it's a proper build. I might do some upgrades in future.

 

Proccessor: I5-6400 @ 2.7gHz-3.3gHz

MB: Msi B150Gaming M3

Ram: 8Gb DDR4 Hyperx black 2133Mhz

GPU: Nvidia 1060GTX Aorus 6GB

Storage: Hdd 1 TB segate/125gb SSD kingston

Monitor: AOC 1080p 75hz

opreating system: Win10 Pro

 

I forgot to say that i stream and game a lot so yea... *tbh i feel some low performance when i stream games like overwatch, not smoother anymore*

I know a lot of games list 8gb of ram these days as required or recomended but I noticed after installing 16 gigs those same games went from almost maxing my previous 8gb ram to running about 10 gigs on average.

[Achi596]

On ‎6‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 10:58 PM, VegetableStu said:

What games are you playing in particular? and which VR games/programs are you looking to do?

games like titan fall 2, csgo, beat sabre and super hot

[Quadriplegic]

18 hours ago, Alex needs a name said:

Hi guys, i was wondering if anyone has an idea if my build bottlenecks somehow, just curious if it's a proper build. I might do some upgrades in future.

 

Proccessor: I5-6400 @ 2.7gHz-3.3gHz

MB: Msi B150Gaming M3

Ram: 8Gb DDR4 Hyperx black 2133Mhz

GPU: Nvidia 1060GTX Aorus 6GB

Storage: Hdd 1 TB segate/125gb SSD kingston

Monitor: AOC 1080p 75hz

opreating system: Win10 Pro

 

I forgot to say that i stream and game a lot so yea... *tbh i feel some low performance when i stream games like overwatch, not smoother anymore*

Just for gaming, it is enough, but streaming at playing at the same time is bit too much for that CPU. Either look at locked šth gen i7, or get a new motherboard and CPU.

[jessu]

On 05.08.2018 at 9:59 PM, GabenJr said:

Everyone hates bottlenecks. It’s a common question on our forums to ask whether a part will be a bottleneck… But what does a bottleneck even look like, and how can you avoid one?

 

 

Buy a Core i7 8700K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/JlcIN
On Newegg: http://geni.us/RLfD

 

Buy a Ryzen 3 2200G:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/jaZX9RZ
On Newegg: http://geni.us/1vxxfGB

 

Buy a GeForce GT 1030:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/RUD3m
On Newegg: http://geni.us/mSAqGt

 

Buy a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9iVpPWq
On Newegg: http://geni.us/R10t

i have a fx4320 8 gb ram ddr3 and id want to buy a amd hd 7750, would i bottleneck anything? ill be using it for gaming mostly, maybe some photo editting. i mostly expect around 30 fps in medium setting or combination of low and mid at a 720p resolution. thanks in advance for the answear! 

ps: should i use a dual core 2 duo e8500 instead from another pc?

[SilverX959]

On 8/6/2018 at 8:58 AM, VegetableStu said:

On 8/5/2018 at 9:51 PM, SilverX959 said:

i wonder how bad of a Bottlenecked my system is

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 2.67GHz, Turbo 2.93GHz 8MBL3
RAM: 14GB DDR3 1066MHz Triple Channel
Motherboard: OEM dell x58 Chipset from a Studio XPS 435t
GPU: PCI-E PNY GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5 XLR8 OC
Monitor: DELL 21" 1080

 

i also wonder how much of an improvement i would get if i put my 1060 in my FX-8120 125w system that can turbo to 4GHz on a GA-990FXA-UD3(rev. 1.1) with 8GB of 1600Mhz DDR3 ram

currently that system has a GTX 560 SC in it

what program or game are you wanting to run this on?

well at that moment i mostly just play games like Skyrim SE, Fallout 4, and recently i started playing Guild Wars 2 also been messing with Elite Dangerous

i mostly been getting stuttering in most of my game and was wondering if i switch my gpu over to the other system would i get a bump in performance or at lest have less stuttering.

non of my hard drives are being hammered so i know that's not the problem.

also sorry for the late replay my os drive bit the dust it was only 3 years old kept getting dr0 and dr1 errors when it was writing to the free space on the drive lucky the os part wasn't damaged i was able to clone it to a temp drive i had in my spare parts bin till i'm able to get a new one might get a SSD

[Metalerman]

ok i know my rig is bottlenecked 

cpu i7 2600k

gpu gtx 1080 ti

memory 16gb

hdd 240gb ssd 

monitor 4k

 

 but the my system runs well anuff for the games i play 

and the http://thebottlenecker.com/ says that even upgrading to the best chip my MB (i7 3770k) will take is only 2% better so there is no real point in me going for that plus there still quite expensive in the UK. so my question is what should i do without spending lots of cash ?

 

[Yoinkerman]

Overclock the 2600k is your best bet.  If you're using stock a new well rounded cooler like the hyper 212 would do well for cheap

[SkilledRebuilds]

I put my GTX1070 in my overclocked Phenom2 x4 955 at 3.7Ghz

Cos LoLs.

Many games tested.

 

The only way to ensure 90%+ GPU usage was to play at 1800-2160p, and even then I was targeting always above 30fps only...

Playlist ^

But many lighter side games ran relatively well.

But you have to be realistic.. 30-50fps targets for such a CPU, 7870/270x/750Ti-670 likely the topend you want to use.

 

[Matzemi]

Hello,

 

so i have been thinking about upgrading my computer in a long time. I bought this system when I finished highschool for about 1.000 EUR and myself and the system aged a bit.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S2130-M1872.7661.325.420.44130vsS2130-M1872.153864.325.420.44130?tab=GPU

On this website i have put in my current computer on the left side and added the new card that i might want to get on the right (gtx 1060 6gb).

 

My couple of Questions are:

1. Will this be overkill for the rest of my pc?
2. Is it wise now to wait for the release of the next gen Nvidia xx60 to buy a card?
3. Is it even logical to upgrade my CPU as well to a "newest" CPU that can use my motherboard (i think a i5-4460) or would i need to get a new motherboard as well for a real jump?

 

The main gameing uses for my pc are: Pubg (min settings min resolution or my system overheats), LoL (medium settings), between 3-7 Clients of EVE Online at the same time on potatomode (min everything besides resolution).

I have two monitors connected to my R9 280x from Acer K222HQL line (one newest gen one and older version)

 

Thanks for your help and excuse my poor choice of words as this is my third language.

 

[JACKY D]

On 8/6/2018 at 12:29 AM, GabenJr said:

Everyone hates bottlenecks. It’s a common question on our forums to ask whether a part will be a bottleneck… But what does a bottleneck even look like, and how can you avoid one?

 

 

Buy a Core i7 8700K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/JlcIN
On Newegg: http://geni.us/RLfD

 

Buy a Ryzen 3 2200G:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/jaZX9RZ
On Newegg: http://geni.us/1vxxfGB

 

Buy a GeForce GT 1030:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/RUD3m
On Newegg: http://geni.us/mSAqGt

 

Buy a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9iVpPWq
On Newegg: http://geni.us/R10t

I'm building my first gaming pc and i was thinking of putting 'Intel i7 8700k " with  '1060' , is  this right to put  them together or should i step down my core to "i5"....???

[Juliovaquer]

On 8/5/2018 at 2:59 PM, GabenJr said:

Everyone hates bottlenecks. It’s a common question on our forums to ask whether a part will be a bottleneck… But what does a bottleneck even look like, and how can you avoid one?

 

 

Buy a Core i7 8700K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/JlcIN
On Newegg: http://geni.us/RLfD

 

Buy a Ryzen 3 2200G:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/jaZX9RZ
On Newegg: http://geni.us/1vxxfGB

 

Buy a GeForce GT 1030:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/RUD3m
On Newegg: http://geni.us/mSAqGt

 

Buy a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9iVpPWq
On Newegg: http://geni.us/R10t

i7 4770k & gtx1080 bottleneck?

[Juliovaquer]

i7 4770k & gtx1080 bottleneck?

[SkilledRebuilds]

1 hour ago, Juliovaquer said:

i7 4770k & gtx1080 bottleneck?

Depends on intended usage.

 

1440p, hardly to none, 4K less so..

1080p, in games like the new Assassins creed (High CPU usage driving down GPU usage) or trying for -HighFPS (Medium Preset Gaming) then still likely.

With 4th Gen (which I have i7 4790k 4.5Ghz) and a GTX1070 (OC'd pretty well) I was in the same boat... seeing A.Creed Origins have 80-90% CPU load at times...

I use 2560x1080 now, with my old 1080p panel as a secondary, but still have used both for gaming.

 

Ensuring 97-100% GPU Usage, at 1080p, you'd need a little more IPC (while it still managing quite fine dropping a few more percent of usage, compared to new CPU's/slightly faster IPC) The intended resolution of the GTX1080 isn't 1080p, so if you are going to use it for 1080p gaming, expect current titles but not all, to suffer usage issues.

Until newer games utilize more GPU (say... Cyberpunk2077) at 1080p by default.

 

A game by game basis, but overall,... I can maximize 99-100% of my 1070 easily at a little over 1080p but under 1440p.

The GTX1080 is a 1440p GPU, severely taxing games at 1080p CAN Max it, but many may suffer GPU usage issues (still getting Great performance regardless)

[Arnold Peraro]

Hi linus

 

i have a i5 4460 and a gtx 970. does my cpu bottleneck my gpu. tnx for the tip =)

[Kotvald]

Hey,

this is my PC right now and i would like to upgrade.

 

    CPU : AMD FX-8320E

    GPU : 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960

    MB : ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A78L-M LX3

    RAM : 8,00GB Dual-Channel DDR3

 

I have 500$+ in my pocket and was thinking about Ryzen 7 2700x (ofc with new MB and RAM) and buy GPU later...

Do you think is this a good decision ? or the bottleneck will be so bad with this GPU ?

Please share your opinion with me and what you should do.

BTW I would like to play games on this PC and stream sometimes.

 

Thanks.

[Bubba.b]

Hi,

I'm looking at upgrading my video card to an Asus RX Vega 64 OC and I want to know if I have to worry about bottlenecks for now.

I will be using this setup mainly for gaming.

My system specs are:

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 (not overclocked but watercooled)

Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0

Ram: G.Skill Sniper 16gb 2400mhz

SSD: Samsung Evo 850 256gb

HDD: WD Blue 2TB

Case: Antec Eleven Hundred V2

OS: Windows 10 pro

Monitor: iiyama 27" 1080p 75hz (I don't know if this matters)

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!