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AM4 motherboard guide - Aug 2018

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

Hi, i decided to make v2.0 of AM4 motherboard list, hope you're going to find it useful/you can link it in your signature so people can find it easily.

Big note. i will most likely add other B450 motherboards after there is more information on the interwebs. The current ones are confirmed to be atleast decent, also B350s are not included because they're junk and for the same price B450s are better.

B450

MSI B450 Tomahawk

Price: $110 (Newegg)

Notable features: Neutral look, LEDs, BIOS flashback button, Generous IO with Type C gen 2, decent VRM (for a cheap board)

VRM: 4+2 phase, RT8894A PWM controller, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) and 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (AC)

Price: $130 (Newegg)

Notable features: RGB, Neutral look, 2x NVMe, generous IO, BIOS flashback, decent onboard audio, wireless, decent VRM (for a cheap board)

VRM: big 4+2 phase, 8 chokes, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) + 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC

Price: $120 (Newegg)

Notable features: wireless, for ITX pretty decent IO, decent VRM

VRM: 6+2 phase, IR3555 powerstages, IR35201 PWM controller (not confirmed)

CPUs: every CPU at stock speeds, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended (bad heatsink)

Note: most likely the best ITX AM4 motherboard (especially for APUs because of strong SOC VRM)

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Asus Strix B450-I (X470 version is basically the same, not going to list both)

Price: ?? (??)

Notable features: Neutral design, lots of RGB, lots of fan headers, wireless, decent VRM     

VRM: 6+1 phase, IR3553 VCore and IR3555 SOC, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock speeds, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended (bad heatsink), APU's iGPU overclocking not recommended (weak SOC VRM)

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X470/X370

MSI X470 Gaming Plus

Price: $130 (Newegg)

Notable features:                                                           OwO, probably cheapest X470 that won't explode when you take an 8 core out of the box

VRM: big 4+2 phase, 8 chokes, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) + 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus Prime X370 Pro

Price: $150 (Newegg)

Notable features: decent onboard audio, decent VRM and controls in BIOS, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2

VRM: 6+4 phase, CSD87350 dualNfets, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus Prime X470 Pro

Price: $160 (Newegg)

Notable features: 2x NVMe, decent VRM and BIOS controls, decent onboard audio, RGB, M.2 heatsink, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3553 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus ROG Strix X370-F

Price: $180 (Newegg)

Notable features: good VRM, good BIOS and overclocking support, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, very generous IO, good onboard audio, BCLK overclocking

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3555 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM

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Asus ROG Strix X470-F

Price: $200 (Newegg)

Notable features: good VRM, good BIOS and overclocking support, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, 2x NVMe, good onboard audio, premounted IO shield, RGB

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3555 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked 

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Asus ROG Crosshair VI (Hero & Extreme)

Price: HERO $170 (Newegg), $240 WiFi AC version (Newegg)

          EXTREME $295 (Amazon)

Notable features: onboard buttons, post code, WIFI & BT (AC version of Hero, Extreme), clear CMOS and BIOS flashback buttons, thicc IO, front panel USB 31 Gen 2, good onboard audio, BCLK, great BIOS support and overclocking capabilities, lots of fan headers (Extreme has even more fan headers), great for LN2 overclocking, RGB, connectors for T sensors etc.

VRM: HERO: 8+4 phase (4+2 properly doubled), CSD87350 dualNfets, IR3598 doublers, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

          EXTREME: 8+4 phase (4+2 properly doubled), IR3555 powerstages, IR3599 doublers, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to absolute ultra maximum on LN2

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Note: C6 Extreme is a thicc E-ATX boi

 

Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero

Price: $260 (Newegg), $280 WiFi version (Newegg

Notable features: 2x NVMe, onboard buttons, maximum overkill VRM, post code display, RGB, good onboard audio, thicc IO, clear CMOS and BIOS flashback buttons, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, great BIOS and overclocking support, bunch of other connectors like T sensors, 

VRM: 10+2 phase (5 doubled +2), ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3555 powerstages, IR3599 doublers for VCore VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU ultra hyper maxed out on LN2

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ASRock Taichi (X370, X470 & X470 Ultimate)

Price: X370 $180 (Newegg)

          X470 $210 (Newegg)

          X470 Ultimate (Newegg)

Notable features: 2x NVMe, great VRM, post code display, onboard buttons (X470 Ultimate), decent audio, 10 gigabit ethernet (X470 Ultimate)

VRM: 12+4 (6+2 doubled), CSD87350 dualNfets, IR3598 doublers, IR35201 PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to to ultimate maximum

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Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 & Gaming K7

Price: Gaming K7 $240 (Newegg)

          Gaming 5 $140 (Newegg)

Notable features: decent VRM, onboard buttons, post code display, precise BCLK overclocking (Gaming K7), decent onboard audio, great memory overclocking, RGB, U.2, Dual BIOS

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3553 powerstages, IR35201 PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM

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 Gigabyte X470 AORUS Gaming 7

Price: $230 (Newegg)

Notable features: great VRM, real VRM heatsink, post code display, 2x NVMe each with heatsink, decent onboard audio, lots of RGB, integrated IO shield, IO buttons, wireless

VRM: 10+2 (5 doubled +2), IR35201 PWM controller, IR3553 for VCore VRM, IR3556 for SOC VRM, IR3599 doublers for VCore VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to maximum

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Useful links & sources:

Hardwareluxx AM4 VRM chart (B350/X370/B450/X470): https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

AHOC youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ

OCN AM4 VRM discussion & information: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1624051-vrm-new-am4-motherboards-317.html

B450 VRM test by Hardware Unboxed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQcgwz1hYA

 

Edited by dave_k
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AM4 motherboards guide

 

Strix RGBuild:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.9GHz 1.3625V (LLC5 flatline)

GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX1060 6GB OC

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X370-F

RAM: Corsair LPX Vengeance 16gb kit 3266MHz, 16-16-16-35 1.375V

Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4

Storage: HyperX Fury 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass

PSU: Corsair RM650x (80+ Gold, Fully modular)

Case fans: 2 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM & 2 Pure Wings 2 140mm PWM

There's never enough RGB

 

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2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Hi, i decided to make v2.0 of AM4 motherboard list, hope you're going to find it useful/you can link it in your signature so people can find it easily.

Big note. i will most likely add other B450 motherboards after there is more information on the interwebs. The current ones are confirmed to be atleast decent, also B350s are not included because they're junk and for the same price B450s are better.

B450

MSI B450 Tomahawk

Price: $110 (Newegg)

Notable features: Neutral look, LEDs, BIOS flashback button, Generous IO with Type C gen 2, decent VRM (for a cheap board)

VRM: 4+2 phase, RT8894A PWM controller, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) and 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (AC)

Price: $130 (Newegg)

Notable features: RGB, Neutral look, 2x NVMe, generous IO, BIOS flashback, decent onboard audio, wireless, decent VRM (for a cheap board)

VRM: big 4+2 phase, 8 chokes, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) + 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC

Price: $120 (Newegg)

Notable features: wireless, for ITX pretty decent IO, decent VRM

VRM: 6+2 phase, IR3555 powerstages, IR35201 PWM controller (not confirmed)

CPUs: every CPU at stock speeds, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended (bad heatsink)

Note: most likely the best ITX AM4 motherboard (especially for APUs because of strong SOC VRM)

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Asus Strix B450-I (X470 version is basically the same, not going to list both)

Price: ?? (??)

Notable features: Neutral design, lots of RGB, lots of fan headers, wireless, decent VRM     

VRM: 6+1 phase, IR3553 VCore and IR3555 SOC, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock speeds, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended (bad heatsink), APU's iGPU overclocking not recommended (weak SOC VRM)

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X470/X370

MSI X470 Gaming Plus

Price: $130 (Newegg)

Notable features:                                                           OwO, probably cheapest X470 that won't explode when you take an 8 core out of the box

VRM: big 4+2 phase, 8 chokes, 4C029N highside (2 per phase) + 4C024N lowside (2 per phase)

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus Prime X370 Pro

Price: $150 (Newegg)

Notable features: decent onboard audio, decent VRM and controls in BIOS, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2

VRM: 6+4 phase, CSD87350 dualNfets, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus Prime X470 Pro

Price: $160 (Newegg)

Notable features: 2x NVMe, decent VRM and BIOS controls, decent onboard audio, RGB, M.2 heatsink, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3553 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM heatsink

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Asus ROG Strix X370-F

Price: $180 (Newegg)

Notable features: good VRM, good BIOS and overclocking support, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, very generous IO, good onboard audio, BCLK overclocking

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3555 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 2000 series 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM

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Asus ROG Strix X470-F

Price: $200 (Newegg)

Notable features: good VRM, good BIOS and overclocking support, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, 2x NVMe, good onboard audio, premounted IO shield, RGB

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3555 powerstages, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked 

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Asus ROG Crosshair VI (Hero & Extreme)

Price: HERO $170 (Newegg), $240 WiFi AC version (Newegg)

          EXTREME $295 (Amazon)

Notable features: onboard buttons, post code, WIFI & BT (AC version of Hero, Extreme), clear CMOS and BIOS flashback buttons, thicc IO, front panel USB 31 Gen 2, good onboard audio, BCLK, great BIOS support and overclocking capabilities, lots of fan headers (Extreme has even more fan headers), great for LN2 overclocking, RGB, connectors for T sensors etc.

VRM: HERO: 8+4 phase (4+2 properly doubled), CSD87350 dualNfets, IR3598 doublers, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

          EXTREME: 8+4 phase (4+2 properly doubled), IR3555 powerstages, IR3599 doublers, ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to absolute ultra maximum on LN2

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Note: C6 Extreme is a thicc E-ATX boi

 

Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero

Price: $260 (Newegg), $280 WiFi version (Newegg

Notable features: 2x NVMe, onboard buttons, maximum overkill VRM, post code display, RGB, good onboard audio, thicc IO, clear CMOS and BIOS flashback buttons, front panel USB 3.1 Gen 2, great BIOS and overclocking support, bunch of other connectors like T sensors, 

VRM: 10+2 phase (5 doubled +2), ASP1405i (IR35201) PWM controller, IR3555 powerstages, IR3599 doublers for VCore VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU ultra hyper maxed out on LN2

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ASRock Taichi (X370, X470 & X470 Ultimate)

Price: X370 $180 (Newegg)

          X470 $210 (Newegg)

          X470 Ultimate (Newegg)

Notable features: 2x NVMe, great VRM, post code display, onboard buttons (X470 Ultimate), decent audio, 10 gigabit ethernet (X470 Ultimate)

VRM: 12+4 (6+2 doubled), CSD87350 dualNfets, IR3598 doublers, IR35201 PWM controller

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to to ultimate maximum

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Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 & Gaming K7

Price: Gaming K7 $240 (Newegg)

          Gaming 5 $140 (Newegg)

Notable features: decent VRM, onboard buttons, post code display, precise BCLK overclocking (Gaming K7), decent onboard audio, great memory overclocking, RGB, U.2, Dual BIOS

VRM: 6+4 phase, IR3553 powerstages, IR35201 PWM controller, IR3599 doublers for SOC VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended without airflow over the VRM

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 Gigabyte X470 AORUS Gaming 7

Price: $230 (Newegg)

Notable features: great VRM, real VRM heatsink, post code display, 2x NVMe each with heatsink, decent onboard audio, lots of RGB, integrated IO shield, IO buttons, wireless

VRM: 10+2 (5 doubled +2), IR35201 PWM controller, IR3553 for VCore VRM, IR3556 for SOC VRM, IR3599 doublers for VCore VRM

CPUs: every CPU at stock, every CPU overclocked to maximum

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Seriously, this took like 3 fking years, so now i'm going to take a nap.

Rip my motherboard on here rip. I has a x370-Prime and it died and killed my cpu so yeah.... Nice round up though!


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 4.2GHZ 1.4V | Ram: 16GB Corsair LPX 3000 DDR4 | MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIMUM  | GPU: EVGA RTX2080 XC OC: 2340 Core | 960 EVO Samsung 500GB M.2 | 850 EVO Samsung 250GB M.2 | Samsung 1TB QVO SSD | 1TB HDD WD Blue 

 

Laptop for school: Microsoft Surface Laptop Core i5 7200U 8GB Ram 128gb SSD in platinum :)

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17 minutes ago, Killstreak said:

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Did you really need to quote the entire gigantic OP?


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @4.7ghz  |~| Cooling: Noctua NH-U12P |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3200mhz CL16 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: Corsair RM850X 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: WD Black M.2 2280 500GB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: ASUS ROG Swift PG348Q 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: EVGA Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk SSD Plus G26 480gb |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display Setup: Acer X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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24 minutes ago, Killstreak said:

Rip my motherboard on here rip. I has a x370-Prime and it died and killed my cpu so yeah.... Nice round up though!

DID YOU REALLY HAVE TO QUOTE THE WHOLE POST?

 

smh.

 

I would avoid MSI boards as their VRM's aren't that good.


hi.

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On 8/3/2018 at 9:30 AM, Princess Cadence said:

Did you really need to quote the entire gigantic OP?

 

On 8/3/2018 at 9:36 AM, AskTJ said:

DID YOU REALLY HAVE TO QUOTE THE WHOLE POST?

You can minimize the quote guys.  I agree it's not good form but this isn't a big deal.


I have too much time on my hands.

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1. you should mention the extternal I/O Connectors

2. You should mention the internal I/O Connectors (=USB 2.0/3.0, S-ATA PCie and M.2 and how its shared)

 

On 3.8.2018 at 6:08 PM, dave_k said:

MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC

Price: $120 (Newegg)

Notable features: wireless, for ITX pretty decent IO, decent VRM

VRM: 6+2 phase, IR3555 powerstages, IR35201 PWM controller (not confirmed)

CPUs: every CPU at stock speeds, heavy 8 core overclocking not recommended (bad heatsink)

Well, d'uh...

We are talking about an ITX Board with size restrictions for the Heatsink, where in many cases the best you can put on the Board is either a Noctua L12(S) or a Scythe Shuriken, the latter might be modified with a 120x25mm fan wich increases performance and reduces noise.

 

With those Heatsinks its pretty unlikely to expect to overclock. And if you're unlucky, you're stuck with something worse like an L9a...

 

But I can kinda confirm the 35201 PWM controller. Though haven't taken a look at the other stuff on the Board. And won't get the Board out of the RVZ-01 right now (until I get my ~500GB NVMe SSD)...

 


"Hell is full of good meanings, but Heaven is full of good works"

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On 3.8.2018 at 6:12 PM, Killstreak said:

Rip my motherboard on here rip. I has a x370-Prime and it died and killed my cpu so yeah.... Nice round up though!

Happens when the high side MOSFET dies.

 

Can happen with anything, everytime.

Had the same thing happen to me with a Gigabyte X79-UD5.

But I don't know if the CPU was OK or not after that because it was replaced by the manufacturer (and only a 4 Core anyway)...


"Hell is full of good meanings, but Heaven is full of good works"

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14 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

1. you should mention the extternal I/O Connectors

2. You should mention the internal I/O Connectors (=USB 2.0/3.0, S-ATA PCie and M.2 and how its shared

1. would take a week do to

2. most mobos on this list have IO more than enough for average user

3. those are less important things over BIOS and power delivery(+heatsink design)


AM4 motherboards guide

 

Strix RGBuild:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.9GHz 1.3625V (LLC5 flatline)

GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX1060 6GB OC

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X370-F

RAM: Corsair LPX Vengeance 16gb kit 3266MHz, 16-16-16-35 1.375V

Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4

Storage: HyperX Fury 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass

PSU: Corsair RM650x (80+ Gold, Fully modular)

Case fans: 2 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM & 2 Pure Wings 2 140mm PWM

There's never enough RGB

 

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2 hours ago, dave_k said:

1. would take a week do to

Wait, what?! WHY?!

The infos are way easier to find than the MOSFET.

 

2 hours ago, dave_k said:

2. most mobos on this list have IO more than enough for average user

And you are the one to decide for them?
Or are you trying to make a List that is for the User to look at and decide for himself/herself, so that they can decide with the Information provided.

 

2 hours ago, dave_k said:

3. those are less important things over BIOS and power delivery(+heatsink design)

No, they are not as the "average user" doesn't really overclock and/or use the highest performance chips either.

 

So to be blunt, you're NOT making the list for the average user, you are making the List for power users!

 

As the average user couldn't care less about the VRM, they care more about other things.

 

And that is things like power consumption. For example, the difference between a BIostar X370GT7 (why isn't it on the List??) and an ASUS X370F-STRIX is ~20W in Power Consumption.

The MSI B450I is at the level of the Biostar...

 

BUT the Power User care about other things as well.

 


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3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

And that is things like power consumption. For example, the difference between a BIostar X370GT7 (why isn't it on the List??) and an ASUS X370F-STRIX is ~20W in Power Consumption.

The MSI B450I is at the level of the Biosta

where do you source this information

3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

So to be blunt, you're NOT making the list for the average user, you are making the List for power users!

Average user won't really be buying 8 core chip tbh. Average user will buy prebuilt PC or something.

Most people who build computers are at some level of being a power user, isn't putting your PC together yourself one of the aspects that make you a power user?

3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

The infos are way easier to find than the MOSFET.

not for me lmao


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CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.9GHz 1.3625V (LLC5 flatline)

GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX1060 6GB OC

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X370-F

RAM: Corsair LPX Vengeance 16gb kit 3266MHz, 16-16-16-35 1.375V

Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4

Storage: HyperX Fury 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass

PSU: Corsair RM650x (80+ Gold, Fully modular)

Case fans: 2 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM & 2 Pure Wings 2 140mm PWM

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6 hours ago, dave_k said:

where do you source this information

Personal measurements with my Ryzen 7/1700x and the said three boards.

Can't measure the Biostar though because it died.

6 hours ago, dave_k said:

Average user won't really be buying 8 core chip tbh. Average user will buy prebuilt PC or something.

Most people who build computers are at some level of being a power user, isn't putting your PC together yourself one of the aspects that make you a power user?

See, that was what I was talking about.

Great that you agree with me =)

6 hours ago, dave_k said:

not for me lmao

For me Connectors is important.

 

For example the ASUS X370-F Strix (and some others) don't have a PS/2 Port wich you need for Windows 7...

 


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6 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Personal measurements with my Ryzen 7/1700x and the said three boards.

It varied because the LLC setting was different on each board, making voltage under load go higher or lower


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Strix RGBuild:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.9GHz 1.3625V (LLC5 flatline)

GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX1060 6GB OC

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X370-F

RAM: Corsair LPX Vengeance 16gb kit 3266MHz, 16-16-16-35 1.375V

Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4

Storage: HyperX Fury 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass

PSU: Corsair RM650x (80+ Gold, Fully modular)

Case fans: 2 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM & 2 Pure Wings 2 140mm PWM

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49 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

B450 Pro4 is missing?

Not worth it over the MSI boards


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Strix RGBuild:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.9GHz 1.3625V (LLC5 flatline)

GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX1060 6GB OC

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X370-F

RAM: Corsair LPX Vengeance 16gb kit 3266MHz, 16-16-16-35 1.375V

Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4

Storage: HyperX Fury 120GB + WD Caviar Blue 1TB

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass

PSU: Corsair RM650x (80+ Gold, Fully modular)

Case fans: 2 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM & 2 Pure Wings 2 140mm PWM

There's never enough RGB

 

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On 03/08/2018 at 5:30 PM, Princess Cadence said:

Did you really need to quote the entire gigantic OP?

Same thought exactly.. 
That taichi is looking sexy to me :)

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28 minutes ago, SliceT said:

Same thought exactly.. 
That taichi is looking sexy to me :)

I've been hearing grumblings over the Taichi BIOS of late. To be fair -- the latest Asus Crosshair VII BIOS had issues with hardware reporting in HWiNFO and CPU-Z.

 

And I also thought the same thing scrolling down through the entire OP quote. 


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