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Many Huawei devices blacklisted from downloading VLC off Google Play

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11 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Huawei is to blame.

They had gotten better but it's a recurring problem. They kinda fixed many of their issues during the Nougat/EMUI 5 era and subsequent updates but it's completely broken again with Oreo/EMUI8.

 

No matter what I do I can't get background playback to work.

I've set battery optimization to manual and locked the app in memory and it still stops either within a few seconds or randomly. It's awful. 

I used to have a Honor 8 with EMUI 5.1 and all the issues explained in this thread effected it but now with my Mate 10 Pro on the more recent EMUI version everything works well in the background, even Spotify. I have yet to receive a "this app is very power consuming" notification; it doesn't even give me a warning about the power sucking instagram and all per app battery settings are set to default.

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1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Doesn't really matter. The system detects a running background process and will kill it pretty soon.

 

I've had a Vivo phone kill Google Maps to save battery while I was using it in the foreground for GPS directions. Really annoying as heck.

Vivo doing it too? holy shite

 

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2 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

Well I'm not gonna buy any of their phones now if this is a issue for other apps outside of VLC

It's not VLC specifically being the problem. It's a symptom, not the cause so to speak. VLC like many other programs that require constant 'access' to function and gets paused by proprietary Huawei code. I wouldn't call it killed because it's still there and killing apps is bad for battery life so it would be counterintuitive to do so. They're pausing it though to prevent it running in the background for battery reasons but sometimes you obviously need things to run in the background. Playing media is a very important example and is the one VLC runs into trouble with. It gets paused by the OS automatically when it's running in the background. That breaks core functionality. I'm not sure if it's only background playback. Imagine if Bluetooth, WiFi or cellular shut off when the screen was off. You'd lose core functionality like calls, downloads being cancelled or your smart watch not getting notifications. This is a hypothetical example of course although I wouldn't be surprised if the aggressive power management caused problems with something like a smart watch not syncing properly.

 

Just for giggles I can tell you that music has paused, played for a couple of seconds and then paused for some minutes for like the past 30 minutes. That's how bad it is.

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10 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Just for giggles I can tell you that music has paused, played for a couple of seconds and then paused for some minutes for like the past 30 minutes. That's how bad it is.

This would drive me up a wall e.e


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5 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

This would drive me up a wall e.e

Yeah I ended up giving up because it got annoying. Still trying to find a solution but I think it needs an update from Huawei to work. I don't think there's any other setting, that I might have missed, to fix it.

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14 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

This would drive me up a wall e.e

As would everyone using it. 

 

But others here on the forum think keeping it on the market and driving the user base mad just using the app is better than taking it down until they have a fix. 

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5 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

But others here on the forum think keeping it on the market and driving the user base mad just using the app is better than taking it down until they have a fix. 

I think that's a bit mad.

 

Plus, it's Android. You can sideload it.


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Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Ok then side load it if it makes you mad. 

I mean the ideology that keeping the app up there and driving people mad over their phone doing things that breaks the app is somehow better than pulling it until a resolution is found. >.>


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37 minutes ago, jefire411 said:

I have yet to receive a "this app is very power consuming" notification; it doesn't even give me a warning about the power sucking instagram and all per app battery settings are set to default.

I was an issue for me when i bought mine late last year but i didn't realize after which update they remove that annoying notification, yeah it's all good now. 

23 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

This would drive me up a wall e.e

Only when you set auto app management. I set all my apps to manual. 


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3 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I mean the ideology that keeping the app up there and driving people mad over their phone doing things that breaks the app is somehow better than pulling it until a resolution is found. >.>

This doesnt apply to just apps, games do this, hardware does this. Did you ever hear of people saying its doesnt matter how long it takes just make it work?

 

People having a bad experience while using it has more impact on a service than just waiting it out. 

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Just now, mynameisjuan said:

This doesnt apply to just apps, games do this, hardware does this. Did you ever hear of people saying its doesnt matter how long it takes just make it work?

 

People having a bad experience while using it has more impact on a service than just waiting it out. 

Yep.

 

It's either you try to do a workaround, keep it there and suffer from bad reviews for something that is beyond your control or pull it until the offending party does something to fix it on their end


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1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

pull it until the offending party does something to fix it on their end

And thats what they did. You are going in circles. This isnt the end of the world, put down the pitch fork.

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Just now, mynameisjuan said:

And thats what they did. You are going in circles. This isnt the end of the world, put down the pitch fork.

I never held up a pitchfork in the first place.

 

I think you meant to point that to the other person who thinks it's the developer's fault and not Huawei's


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4 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I never held up a pitchfork in the first place.

 

I think you meant to point that to the other person who thinks it's the developer's fault and not Huawei's

Oh....oh yeah that was the other guy.....whoopsy...lol

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54 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

Vivo doing it too? holy shite

 

Yep. Really infuriating.

 

Why those OEMs felt the need to mess with Android's way of handling background tasks, I'll never know


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21 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

I was an issue for me when i bought mine late last year but i didn't realize after which update they remove that annoying notification, yeah it's all good now. 

Only when you set auto app management. I set all my apps to manual. 

Setting it to manual doesn't always work and certainly doesn't work for me. I mean sure, it's supposed to work but apparently it's deeply flawed.

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1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

Users whine about short battery life all the time, then they whine about the app can't run in the background by default.

 

You can't have both.

Yes, you can.

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2 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

Users whine about short battery life all the time, then they whine about the app can't run in the background by default.

 

You can't have both.

You can.

 

Big battery and actual proper background process management works for a start.


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3 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

You can.

 

Big battery and actual proper background process management works for a start.

 

5 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Yes, you can.

Apparently not.


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7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

 

Apparently not.

Not on a Huawei device but that's not a story the Chinese will tell you.

 

But on proper Android implementations, you most certainly can. There are even proper APIs to help you.

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1 hour ago, Blademaster91 said:

Yeah i'm tired of the usual  pointless ''bUt iOS IS bEtTeR'' argument that seems to happen in about every Android news topic, even thought it's hauwei to blame and nothing to do with Android.

Let’s not pretend Android users don’t do the same.

 

On topic: tested on my old Note 5 and VLC didn’t close upon locking the phone.


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2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

On topic: tested on my old Note 5 and VLC didn’t close upon locking the phone.

Doesn't happen on most Android phones,

 

My Note8 had no issue keeping apps in memory and even relevant background processes running.


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I have an Huaweii phone. If EMUI is the cause, the I support the blacklist.


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