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Intel 9th gen unlock cpu specs leaked (updated)

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16 minutes ago, PeterBocan said:

5 GHz is a magical number, because of Moore's law. After 5.5 GHz the silicon is just not the best option.

Isnt 5.5 Ghz the magical number then?

 

Just because 5 is a round number doesnt mean its a round number in every number system. So should 5.5 Ghz be the magical number?

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2 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Intel knows not to go much higher than $400 on their consumer chips

Mark my words, Intel will do whatever the fuck it wants if Zen 2 is a flop. There's a reason it's called the Intel Tax. 


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3 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

This leak seems to imply they are going to add a new higher tier, with the 9700k 8c8t replacing the 8700k 6c12t, and the i9 9900k 8c16t costing more.

I suppose time will tell. It's hard to predict because this is new model that could shift the product stack entirely for the first time in quite awhile.

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hang on again, going by a fuzzier look, it's like they'd just split the i5 stack into two, and bumped down the naming stack above the i5 o_o

 

so like now the i7 or the i5 are kinda eating into each other in terms of share

 

(if true)

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Isnt 5.5 Ghz the magical number then?

 

Just because 5 is a round number doesnt mean its a round number in every number system. So should 5.5 Ghz be the magical number?

Well, people love round numbers, don't they? But it will impossible to hit 6 GHz on Silicon substrate with air cooling. 

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1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

Mark my words, Intel will do whatever the fuck it wants if Zen 2 is a flop. There's a reason it's called the Intel Tax. 

Well, to be fair they do whatever the shareholders want lol.

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Just now, TVwazhere said:

Mark my words, Intel will do whatever the fuck it wants if Zen 2 is a flop. There's a reason it's called the Intel Tax. 

Intel dominated that past few years and still the top end i7 was no more than $330. Yes than can but I think they know they are on thin ice. 

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Just now, PeterBocan said:

Well, people love round numbers, don't they? But it will impossible to hit 6 GHz on Silicon substrate with air cooling. 

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

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1 minute ago, PeterBocan said:

Well, people love round numbers, don't they? But it will impossible to hit 6 GHz on Silicon substrate with air cooling. 

Nothing is too much for blowymatron.

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

*press release, six months from now*

 

Noctua releases new dual 200mm tower cooler specifically designed for maximum Overclocking


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Just now, TVwazhere said:

*press release, six months from now*

 

Noctua releases new dual 200mm tower cooler specifically designed for maximum Overclocking

That would be fantastic...

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3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

 

1 minute ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Nothing is too much for blowymatron.

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.


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51 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Imagine that i7 with a 5ghz OC, it’ll shred ryzen 7 2700x

It should be compared to the upcoming Ryzen 3000 chips, though. And at the same clock speed, the difference between Zen+ and CL is already almost negligible.


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10 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

I suppose time will tell. It's hard to predict because this is new model that could shift the product stack entirely for the first time in quite awhile.

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions


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3 minutes ago, Wanpug said:

 

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.

I would suggest reading this answer https://superuser.com/a/324976/304327

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4 minutes ago, Wanpug said:

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.

The real challenge is to not make it SOUND like a leaf blower. That's where Noctua truly shines


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1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions

id rather have 6c/6t than 4c/8t

 


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It feels a lot like the 8 core part is the only soldered one, but they would have had to do that. These are going to be Base Clock Bombers, though.  Even on 14nm++, these are still Skylake cores. That's going to be a lot of power.

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1 minute ago, PeterBocan said:

I would suggest reading this answer https://superuser.com/a/324976/304327

That makes sense, guess my hypothesis is flawed. 


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50 minutes ago, AlfaProto said:

What's the point of consumers getting more than 6 cores? Video editing? Streaming?

We have NVENC and QuickSync, and the quality difference between CPU vs GPU accelerated en/decode is not that noticeable, and truthfully, no one is going to scrutinise frame-by-frame the quality.

low bitrate is not the best for that kind of stuff. there is a quality trade off

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15 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions

I would imagine that it would be hard to do that product stack as they are trying to salvage defective cpus. Having exactly 6 working core with all the components for hyperthreading intact isn't exactly common with defective cpus. I mean salvaging a 4c8t part from an 8 core part seems very rare compared to a 6c part. 

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44 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

low bitrate is not the best for that kind of stuff. there is a quality trade off

HardwareCanucks proved that QuickSync has no quality drop in video encoding on Premiere. This was true for older HD graphics (Sandy/Ivy Bridge), which you have a slightly poor quality (that blocky effect).

 

Even if Skylake and above is using the same graphics core as the S/IB, though, just an increased compute units, there's no quality drop at all.

 

Even so, doesn't make sense, since streaming, you can expect a lot of blocky parts, especially those fast pace games like CSGO.

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1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

Imagine that i7 with a 5ghz OC, it’ll shred ryzen 7 2700x

i wonder about the power draw , 8c/16t , base clock at 3.6ghz (for a reason) and rated for 95w? the Skylake X line said something different about that 


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