Intel 9th gen unlock cpu specs leaked (updated)

[mynameisjuan]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

Mark my words, Intel will do whatever the fuck it wants if Zen 2 is a flop. There's a reason it's called the Intel Tax. 

Intel dominated that past few years and still the top end i7 was no more than $330. Yes than can but I think they know they are on thin ice. 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, PeterBocan said:

Well, people love round numbers, don't they? But it will impossible to hit 6 GHz on Silicon substrate with air cooling. 

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

[Dylanc1500]

1 minute ago, PeterBocan said:

Well, people love round numbers, don't they? But it will impossible to hit 6 GHz on Silicon substrate with air cooling. 

Nothing is too much for blowymatron.

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

*press release, six months from now*

 

Noctua releases new dual 200mm tower cooler specifically designed for maximum Overclocking

[Dylanc1500]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

*press release, six months from now*

 

Noctua releases new dual 200mm tower cooler specifically designed for maximum Overclocking

That would be fantastic...

[Wanpug]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Are you challanging Noctua's engineering staff?

 

1 minute ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Nothing is too much for blowymatron.

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.

[NelizMastr]

51 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Imagine that i7 with a 5ghz OC, it’ll shred ryzen 7 2700x

It should be compared to the upcoming Ryzen 3000 chips, though. And at the same clock speed, the difference between Zen+ and CL is already almost negligible.

[The Benjamins]

10 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

I suppose time will tell. It's hard to predict because this is new model that could shift the product stack entirely for the first time in quite awhile.

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions

[PeterBocan]

3 minutes ago, Wanpug said:

 

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.

I would suggest reading this answer https://superuser.com/a/324976/304327

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, Wanpug said:

I'm not very well versed in cooling but I would assume that increasing the surface area of the heat sink and increasing air flow will increase cooling performance, right?

 

If that is true, then if you don't care too much on power draw and noise, then find the biggest heat sink and use a leaf blower.

The real challenge is to not make it SOUND like a leaf blower. That's where Noctua truly shines

[Firewrath9]

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions

id rather have 6c/6t than 4c/8t

 

[Taf the Ghost]

It feels a lot like the 8 core part is the only soldered one, but they would have had to do that. These are going to be Base Clock Bombers, though.  Even on 14nm++, these are still Skylake cores. That's going to be a lot of power.

[Wanpug]

1 minute ago, PeterBocan said:

I would suggest reading this answer https://superuser.com/a/324976/304327

That makes sense, guess my hypothesis is flawed. 

[spartaman64]

50 minutes ago, AlfaProto said:

What's the point of consumers getting more than 6 cores? Video editing? Streaming?

We have NVENC and QuickSync, and the quality difference between CPU vs GPU accelerated en/decode is not that noticeable, and truthfully, no one is going to scrutinise frame-by-frame the quality.

low bitrate is not the best for that kind of stuff. there is a quality trade off

[Brooksie359]

15 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

ya

In my status I posted about this yesterday I said that I don't like how Intel does not have HT on their CPUs. IMO it should be 8c16t, 6c12t, 4c8t for i9, i7, i5; and if they want some with out HT then make then the non K versions

I would imagine that it would be hard to do that product stack as they are trying to salvage defective cpus. Having exactly 6 working core with all the components for hyperthreading intact isn't exactly common with defective cpus. I mean salvaging a 4c8t part from an 8 core part seems very rare compared to a 6c part. 

[AlfaProto]

44 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

low bitrate is not the best for that kind of stuff. there is a quality trade off

HardwareCanucks proved that QuickSync has no quality drop in video encoding on Premiere. This was true for older HD graphics (Sandy/Ivy Bridge), which you have a slightly poor quality (that blocky effect).

 

Even if Skylake and above is using the same graphics core as the S/IB, though, just an increased compute units, there's no quality drop at all.

 

Even so, doesn't make sense, since streaming, you can expect a lot of blocky parts, especially those fast pace games like CSGO.

[Space Reptile]

1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

Imagine that i7 with a 5ghz OC, it’ll shred ryzen 7 2700x

i wonder about the power draw , 8c/16t , base clock at 3.6ghz (for a reason) and rated for 95w? the Skylake X line said something different about that 

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, AlfaProto said:

HardwareCanucks proved that QuickSync has no quality drop in video encoding on Premiere. This was true for older HD graphics (Sandy/Ivy Bridge), which you have a slightly poor quality (that blocky effect).

 

Even if Skylake and above is using the same graphics core as the S/IB, though, just an increased compute units, there's no quality drop at all.

 

Even so, doesn't make sense, since streaming, you can expect a lot of blocky parts, especially those fast pace games like CSGO.

In premiere where there is no bitrate limit

[The Benjamins]

23 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would imagine that it would be hard to do that product stack as they are trying to salvage defective cpus. Having exactly 6 working core with all the components for hyperthreading intact isn't exactly common with defective cpus. I mean salvaging a 4c8t part from an 8 core part seems very rare compared to a 6c part. 

That makes no sense, if its very rare for a 4c8t part out of a 8c16t die then the 6c is even rare, and 8c would be a unicorn part. no way Intels yields are that shit.

 

they should have A lot of dies that can do 6c12t and 4c8t parts, also they can sell non HT parts just not as a K sku IMO.

 

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

In premiere where there is no bitrate limit

And only for encoding x264 video. The QuickSync acceleration actually just show how bad the Adobe Encoder is. (The Nvidia media engine should be able to perform the task even faster. Funny, that.)

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, sazrocks said:

I dont see how they could all have a 95w TDP. Seriously, 8 cores at 5 GHz? Unlikely.

 

1 hour ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I don't think that 95W TDP holds up at 5GHz

It's 95W at 3.6 GHz. Just as advertised.

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

i7 lost hyperthreading ._. as the popular speak goes: "Big if True"

 

if we're still on the "Games aren't as multithreaded as people would like to" then what's the point of buying an i7 over the i5 now? (considering the 1 and 2 core turbos could do a bit of overclocking to keep up)

then on the i9 part, I don't know if disabling hyperthreading for the extra clockspeeds on lousy chips are worth the trade-off with a 6C12t configuration. unless they did that to not cannibalise the i9 part (probably ask Canon to compare notes)

For those that say why buy an i7 instead of a i5 since games aren't multithreaded is just stupid. Buying a CPU is not only for games, it's for having as much performance as possible, for as long as you can, so that your next upgrade will be a giant leap, and not a small step. My old CPU was a socket 775 Xeon X3350 and I didn't upgrade until what I have currently, an X99. That's from an quad core with no HT and DDR2 in dual channel to a 6 core with HT and DDR4 in quad channel. Never listen to them gaming crowd, go with what you want. 

For the i7 without HT, it won't be a trade off to the 6c/12T Core i7, even if the new one has higher clock speed. Clock speed can only take it so far, but it will eventually reach its limit. This is where cores and HT comes in, and no matter what, it will always win. If the 9700K turns out to be true, Intel should have left it at 6c/12t instead of changing it to 8c/8t. An Core 7 9700K 8c/8t will be like a 7700K at 4c/8t.

[D13H4RD]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

It's 95W at 3.6 GHz. Just as advertised.

Follows the "TDP at base clock" exactly in that regard

[Christophe Corazza]

The only reason they are contemplating this is because of TLBleed. They have no silicon fix yet on the table, and do not plan to fix it, so the cheapest path forward is to turn it off instead of fix it. 

[Christophe Corazza]

If true, this is a bad move at a bad time given the new competition provided by AMD.