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970 evo + 960 evo Raid 0 array

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi all,

I am looking to add to my computer build and there really isnt much more to add because my current setup is stacked.  

1080 ti

I7 7700k

2x 1tb samsung 860 evod in raid 0

1x 2tb 2.5" seagate barracuda 5400 rpm for backing up raid 0 array on weekly basis

1x 250gb samsung 960evo m.2 for operating system

 

I was thinking of getting another m.2 as my motherboard could support one more m.2. I was looking at the new 970 evo 250gb, but was wondering if there would be any issues if I decided to put that 970 evo in a raid 0 array with my current 960 evo. I dont know if they have to be the same exact m.2 or if they could be different. And if they can be different will I take a hit in performance rather than just buying another 960 evo to do a raid 0 array with my current 960 evo.

 

Thanks!

 

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4 minutes ago, Capnspace said:

Hi all,

I am looking to add to my computer build and there really isnt much more to add because my current setup is stacked.  

1080 ti

I7 7700k

2x 1tb samsung 860 evod in raid 0

1x 2tb 2.5" seagate barracuda 5400 rpm for backing up raid 0 array on weekly basis

1x 250gb samsung 960evo m.2 for operating system

 

I was thinking of getting another m.2 as my motherboard could support one more m.2. I was looking at the new 970 evo 250gb, but was wondering if there would be any issues if I decided to put that 970 evo in a raid 0 array with my current 960 evo. I dont know if they have to be the same exact m.2 or if they could be different. And if they can be different will I take a hit in performance rather than just buying another 960 evo to do a raid 0 array with my current 960 evo.

 

Thanks!

 

They should work in raid, they will just use the slower of the 2 SSDs as the max speed. (which is still REAL quick)

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I'd just sell the other one and get a 500GB drive if that's what you're after.

RAID0 really doesn't add much when you're looking at speeds like that. Just added risk.


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I'd have to agree, in most usage scenarios there isn't much between an NVME or SATA SSD - the rest of the system becomes the bottleneck.

 

In fact the only time I have seen a major difference is when running low on RAM, it reduces the delay in paging data out to the virtual memory/swap file to a few seconds vs a minute or so with a SATA SSD.

 

I see no reason to complicate things with RAID unless you have a VERY specific usage scenario.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

@dizmo @Alex Atkin UK thank you both for the advice. I want to do more to my comp but just cant think of anything else to do to it lol. I know...first world problems... but it's been a blast building this thing and would love to do more to it. It's more about enthusiast projects rather than efficiency lol.

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Hello Capnspace, 

 

NVMe+NVMe combinations may not be as usual, a RAID 0 is intended to provide users with fast read and write speeds where performance matters. Speeds are measured by the number of drives in the array, so consider an array with four drives to be four times faster than a single drive theoretically. If milliseconds count, you will definitely do better because of a quicker data access across drives, but this will apply better on cases where fault tolerance, data redundancy or complete loss of data don't ring any bell, if one drive fails they will all fail.

 


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Eh, I don't see it as adding anything but complication and failure points. You don't have to continuously tweak the build, just enjoy it for what it is :P

Nice build, definitely approve of the accent colors.


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Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Eh, I don't see it as adding anything but complication and failure points. You don't have to continuously tweak the build, just enjoy it for what it is :P

Nice build, definitely approve of the accent colors.

Was going to say that, so rick of people going RGB nuts, I think a bright white clinical look is quite unique.  REALLY going to fun keeping dust from showing up in it though.

 

I think the only really beneficial direction here would be Coffee Lake and Intel Optane, so that game load speeds from HDDs get a boost.  But honestly, its not even close to worth the cost of upgrading so much of the system.


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58 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Was going to say that, so rick of people going RGB nuts, I think a bright white clinical look is quite unique.  REALLY going to fun keeping dust from showing up in it though.

 

I think the only really beneficial direction here would be Coffee Lake and Intel Optane, so that game load speeds from HDDs get a boost.  But honestly, its not even close to worth the cost of upgrading so much of the system.

Haha, I don't think there's anything wrong with RGB. What's wrong with people having choice? You don't have to use it if you don't want it ;)


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I didn't say choice was bad, I just think its so common now that there isn't anything particularly unique about most configurations.  It doesn't help the software tends to be a bit crap, have RGB on my own board and was extremely disappointed at the lack of customisability.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

I have my games on my 2x 1tb samsung 860 evod that are in a raid 0 array. So pretty fast as it is. No need of optane as I only use the hdd to backup my raid 0 array once a week when I'm not using the comp (scheduled runs Monday 2am). As for dust I've had the build for a little over 6 months now and the dust filters and positive pressure pushing outward prevent a lot of dust from getting in

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I have a setup somewhat similar to what you're looking at.

 

When I first built my current machine I bought one 500gb 840Evo. Unfortunately it didnt take too long for that to become a bit tight, but the new 850s were out at this point so I had to mismatch a bit. 

 

I ended up buying an 850evo and put it in RAID0 with my 840. I know it's more failure prone than a single drive but I didnt want to pay for a 1TB SSD and was too lazy to sell the old one. Been running this setup for a few years now without issue, knock on wood. 

 

Nice looking rig!


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