Building a Gaming Cafe inside a Go-kart Raceway

[Angular]

Greetings almighty Linus tech tips forum,

 

So I'm building a gaming café inside of a Go-Kart facility. I will be logging my journey here.

We plan to have 9 Gaming rigs and 2 console gaming stations. We are building our project in an old GM office 15ft x 15ft.

We're building custom Gaming rigs, here's the Build we're following {https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DprVD2} Using 1920x1080 Monitors. Thanks TvWasHere | GDRRiley

I will be uploading more including pictures before constructions starts. Anyone with any ideas or expertise please feel free to share your ideas.

Trying to stay under $20,000.

 

~Angluar 

dr.auspicious.vizzini@gmail.com
 

 

[Froody129]

Why would I want to go to a gaming cafe when there's a Go-kart track next to me? Noise might also be an issue 

[Angular]

1 minute ago, Froody129 said:

Why would I want to go to a gaming cafe when there's a Go-kart track next to me? Noise might also be an issue 

We stay really busy, we have arcade games around the track for customers to play while they wait for their race. 

Also, we use Electrical go-karts. Basically silent.

 

~Angular 

[GDRRiley]

if your buy new parts why are you using 6th gen CPUs.

[Angular]

6 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

if your buy new parts why are you using 6th gen CPUs.

I believe it will be cheaper. We don't intend to be running any new AAA games anyway.

I'm really going for best price to performance. I don't believe the small percentage of performance we would get from using newer chips would be worth the money.

I'm still running Skylake like a champ. 

 

~Angular

[GDRRiley]

5 minutes ago, Angular said:

I believe it will be cheaper. We don't intend to be running any new AAA games anyway.

I'm really going for best price for performance. I don't believe the small percentage of performance we would get from using newer chips would be worth the money.

I'm still running Skylake like a champ. 

 

~Angular

well for the same performance you could drop to 8th gen i3s and I would drop the AIO. get a noctua or other large air cooler

or for the same price keep i5s or move to ryzen 2600Xs

Edited July 16, 2018 by GDRRiley

[Froody129]

4 minutes ago, Angular said:

I believe it will be cheaper. We don't intend to be running any new AAA games anyway.

I'm really going for best price to performance. I don't believe the small percentage of performance we would get from using newer chips would be worth the money.

I'm still running Skylake like a champ. 

 

~Angular

Are you buying the parts new? A 6600k and 390 was a balanced build in like 2014, but if you're buying new you're going to be overpaying by a lot. 

 

An 8100 will be equivalent and an i5 8400 will perform like a 7700k. Ryzen APUs are also a great option depending on what games you're trying to run. If you ever need more GPU power it's very easy and cheap to upgrade 

[imreloadin]

7 minutes ago, Angular said:

I believe it will be cheaper. We don't intend to be running any new AAA games anyway.

I'm really going for best price for performance. I don't believe the small percentage of performance we would get from using newer chips would be worth the money.

I'm still running Skylake like a champ. 

 

~Angular

But why K sku CPUs?

From an administration standpoint having to dial in overclocks for each of the 9 gaming rigs with the potential instability that comes with it will be waaaay more headache than any performance benefit. I'd drop the K sku CPU and get a non Z series motherboard and you'd drop a couple of hundred bucks off each build. That and just get 8th gen CPUs because if you ever refresh the build you'll get more for them than CPUs that are already 3 generations old.

 

EDIT: Just noticed the R9 390.....at least get a modern GPU. Throw a 1070 in there or hell even a 1060 and you'll get better power consumption as well as equivalent or greater performance.

[Angular]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

well for the same performance you could drop to 8th gen i3s and I would drop the AIO. get a noctua or other large air cooler

I want to use water cooling since the cramped confinements. | Will have a server room fan.  

Is that true? My hardware knowledge is shit from what it used to be. If I can get the same performance from an i3.. Well then. 

If so what you recommend for around 950 price range? Or any information you could link me to would be greatly appreciated!

 

~Angular 

[Angular]

3 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

But why K sku CPUs?

From an administration standpoint having to dial in overclocks for each of the 9 gaming rigs with the potential instability that comes with it will be waaaay more headache than any performance benefit. I'd drop the K sku CPU and get a non Z series motherboard and you'd drop a couple of hundred bucks off each build. That and just get 8th gen CPUs because if you ever refresh the build you'll get more for them than CPUs that are already 3 generations old.

Very good point.

I will definitely be changing our builds. Any builds you would recommend? Any info would be vey helpful!

Thanks

 

~Angular 

[GDRRiley]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.65 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($170.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Phoenix Fan Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $935.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 13:52 EDT-0400

here is a ryzen build I'll work on an intel build give me a min

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8300 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H310M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Black PCIe 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $964.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 13:54 EDT-0400

so the intel build gives up some CPU power for more GPU

Edited July 16, 2018 by GDRRiley

[TVwazhere]

Heres $1090.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($27.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($82.74 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.70 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon) <- 2560x1080 gaming
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ B&H) <- More power efficient than bronze PSU's
Total: $1090.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 13:50 EDT-0400

 

5 minutes ago, Angular said:

I want to use water cooling since the cramped confinements. | Will have a server room fan.  

Water cooling wont really help , if anything it will be noisier due to the pump. 

[Angular]

5 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Are you buying the parts new? A 6600k and 390 was a balanced build in like 2014, but if you're buying new you're going to be overpaying by a lot. 

 

An 8100 will be equivalent and an i5 8400 will perform like a 7700k. Ryzen APUs are also a great option depending on what games you're trying to run. If you ever need more GPU power it's very easy and cheap to upgrade 

I was planning on sources materials new yes, but now I see going a couple gens back wasn't as cost efficient as I thought.

 

~Angular  

[Angular]

3 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Heres $1090.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($27.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($82.74 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.70 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1090.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 13:50 EDT-0400

 

Water cooling wont really help , if anything it will be noisier due to the pump. 

My past experiences with water cooling haven't brought up problems with the pump being too loud. Thanks for the insight!

 

~Angular

[GDRRiley]

11 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Heres $1090.

a little over the 950$ budget.

[TVwazhere]

7 minutes ago, Angular said:

My past experiences with water cooling haven't brought up problems with the pump being too loud. Thanks for the insight!

 

~Angular

I just switched from a Corsair H90i to the Cryorig C7 out of necessity when downsizing to mITX. The pump, while not loud, was the noisiest part of the system in non gaming loads (note I had 3 200mm low RPM fans and the 1400 Fractla Venturi fan as the RAD fan) It wasnt bad, but it was notably the weak spot when it came to silence.

The system is notably quieter at idle now without the AIO. Plus, most of the i5/R5 lineups dont need AIO's to achieve max performance. Some might eve consider the H7 to be over kill for a locked CPU, but at $28 right now it's hard to say no to.

 

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

a little over the 950$ budget.

I had it finished right as the $950 budget came up. TBH all that would need to be swapped was the 1070 for a 1060

[imreloadin]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($291.59 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $866.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 14:03 EDT-0400

 

This is excluding Windows licensing of course, since you're going to be making money off of this you'll definitely want to buy legit licenses, whether you get an Enterprise license or just go with individual licenses that's up to you. Also why are you wanting to use 2560x1080 monitors? Why not just stick with a cheaper 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and call it a day?

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

 

I had it finished right as the $950 budget came up. TBH all that would need to be swapped was the 1070 for a 1060

I would argue that the better trade would be going down to an i3.

[Angular]

Intel for life unless it is to save money, then there goes my fanboy stuff.

 

~angluar

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

I would argue that the better trade would be going down to an i3.

The difference only saves $60. You'd have to cut out another $100 still

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Angular said:

Intel for life unless it is to save money, then there goes my fanboy stuff.

 

~angluar

you shouldn't buy on brand for PC parts every company screws up time to time and intel at some budgets and workloads really isn't a good idea.

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

The difference only saves $60. You'd have to cut out another $100 still

cut it, drop to a low end board and drop cooler. that is what I did for my 950$ build

[Angular]

2 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($291.59 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $866.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-16 14:03 EDT-0400

 

This is excluding Windows licensing of course, since you're going to be making money off of this you'll definitely want to buy legit licenses, whether you get an Enterprise license or just go with individual licenses that's up to you. Also why are you wanting to use 2560x1080 monitors? Why not just stick with a cheaper 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and call it a day?

Because I'm boujee… 

Also I plan to pirate all windows keys jk. 

 

~Angular

[Angular]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

cut it, drop to a low end board and drop cooler. that is what I did for my 950$ build

Put that into a pc part picker link and its sounds like a plan 

Awesome!

 

~Angular

[TVwazhere]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

cut it, drop to a low end board and drop cooler. that is what I did for my 950$ build

I'm now seeing the edited post

 

I would then (for the sake of optimizing the build as much as possible) that a gold rated PSU would be valued, considering you're going to have 9 or 10 of these in one room.