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57 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

can we all agree that we'd need lots of well placed holes with a drill, or a well-placed well-forced strike with a sledgehammer ._.

or a blender. or Eyjafjallajökull.

 

I’ll take the sledgehammer please :) 

Got to get rid of those frustrations somewhere, no? :D 

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5 hours ago, yoyof211 said:

I have been waiting for any member of linustechtips team to show anything about killing a SSD drive like usb killer but for a SDD now that most drives are SDD there should be a way to fry it or something as instant wipe or destruction! 

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1 minute ago, asus killer said:

salt water

Only if left submerged for an extended period, or while plugged in and powered on.

 

If you disconnect an SSD, fully submerge it in some salt water, then rinse with fresh water and thoroughly dry it off, it should still function totally fine.

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Fire. Throw it in a fire....but why? Why are you going to such lengths to destroy as SSD? 

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7 hours ago, WereCatf said:

Oh for the love of god, that's not how SSDs work. The data isn't stored contiguously on the chips, that's the whole point with SSDs: the data can be in a completely random order spread over all the different chips; like I said, even in the best-case scenario, you'd only get fragments, and if you don't have the SSD-controller's internal structures, there's no way of knowing which blocks are actually in use and which ones aren't.

Just drilling once in a random spot will not destroy the data necessarily. It's still possible to reconstruct some or all of the data, even if the controller is damaged. It would be difficult and expensive, but still possible. It's entirely possible, even with random distribution that the entirety of a sensitive file resides on a single chip, especially if its a small file, like a private RSA key for example.  You would have to make sure to drill every nand chip to be 100% sure.

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17 minutes ago, geo3 said:

Just drilling once in a random spot will not destroy the data necessarily. It's still possible to reconstruct some or all of the data, even if the controller is damaged. It would be difficult and expensive, but still possible. It's entirely possible, even with random distribution that the entirety of a sensitive file resides on a single chip, especially if its a small file, like a private RSA key for example.  You would have to make sure to drill every nand chip to be 100% sure.

While this is true, from a practical standpoint, it would eliminate the risk for everything except forensic recovery, and even then, they would only be able to grab small bits of data.

 

For example, even if an entire file resided on one chip, without the controller mapping, they may not be able to tell what is a file and what isn't. Possible - yes, but not many people are going to pay for the expense of trying to find out.

 

Either way, the best way to erase an SSD is using ATA Secure Erase, and then physically destroy the chips.

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I think a good video might be snapping an nvme or ngff ssd in half even leaving the controller in tact and showing anyone attempting to read a single word file with a hidden message on it.  Should settle the question and be interesting, my guess is nope

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1 minute ago, John Ellmaker said:

I think a good video might be snapping an nvme or ngff ssd in half even leaving the controller in tact and showing anyone attempting to read a single word file with a hidden message on it.  Should settle the question and be interesting, my guess is nope

That would not work at all in the context you're asking.

 

By snapping the board in half, you're breaking a bunch of traces. The board would not likely even power on.

 

IF the board powers on? Sure. But if it doesn't power on, you'd need highly specialized equipment to desolder the chips, then read them with a specialized reader (or you'd have to attempt a board repair).

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3 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

That would not work at all in the context you're asking.

 

By snapping the board in half, you're breaking a bunch of traces. The board would not likely even power on.

 

IF the board powers on? Sure. But if it doesn't power on, you'd need highly specialized equipment to desolder the chips, then read them with a specialized reader (or you'd have to attempt a board repair).

I think we’re in agreement, so the hammer guys are pretty much correct unless someone can actually demonstrate otherwise

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15 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

Thermite?

Is there anything you don't set on fire? 

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5 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Is there anything you don't set on fire? 

fire?

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3 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Is there anything you don't set on fire? 

Myself ideally

 

3 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

fire?

Like, you're not wrong

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5 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

Myself ideally

i suppose Linus would prefer that. Imagine the health and safety forms he'll have to fill.

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Get a sander and a blowtorch, thats how to get rid of it. First you sand it till its dust, then melt it into a block with the blowtorch. Repeat a couple times. Then get out on a boat and sprinkle the dust into the water or get some liquid lead and stick it in the lead so noone will touch it

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15 hours ago, yoyof211 said:

I have been waiting for any member of linustechtips team to show anything about killing a SSD drive like usb killer but for a SDD now that most drives are SDD there should be a way to fry it or something as instant wipe or destruction! 

high voltage down all the pins should do the trick.

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14 hours ago, yoyof211 said:

not for a SSD

Yes it will...

If you destroy the memory chips, everything on it is lost.

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14 hours ago, yoyof211 said:

hammer or drill will not fully destroy it! you can still retrieve data on a SDD!

You're not using it right then. 

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I saw somewhere on LTT's channel where they went to (I think it was) Freegeek and worked for a day, and there was a station where you could destroy hard drives with a machine.

 

sem-model-0101-sledgehammer-hard-drive-c

 

Pretty much this ^, but it was operated with the strength of an arm and was open, not in a closed box like that.

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12 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

See the source image

WTF is PC load letter?

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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