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Don't buy the G3

1 hour ago, TrigrH said:

@jonnyGURU Thoughts?

 

Nope.  I don't have one.

 

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10 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

By the way, just wondering, as long as you don't load the G3 (i.e I'm running just a 8400 + 570 on a 750W (yeah ik I use like 200W, G2 was out of stock, 550 G3 was 100$, and 650G3 was same price), is the g3 fine, since I am 500W+ away from the OCP, and if you have good airflow for OTP, is it fine?

Even if I had like a vega64 + i7-9700k, and was drawing something like 600W. should I be worried?

First point: yes. 

Second point: also yes, power surges and transient response time etc. exist and if you're not careful the G3 could damage components over time, have melted caps etc. 

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25 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

By the way, just wondering, as long as you don't load the G3 (i.e I'm running just a 8400 + 570 on a 750W (yeah ik I use like 200W, G2 was out of stock, 550 G3 was 100$, and 650G3 was same price), is the g3 fine, since I am 500W+ away from the OCP, and if you have good airflow for OTP, is it fine?

Even if I had like a vega64 + i7-9700k, and was drawing something like 600W. should I be worried?

No, as long as you aren't close to the limit you'll be fine...


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4 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

By the way, just wondering, as long as you don't load the G3 (i.e I'm running just a 8400 + 570 on a 750W (yeah ik I use like 200W, G2 was out of stock, 550 G3 was 100$, and 650G3 was same price), is the g3 fine, since I am 500W+ away from the OCP, and if you have good airflow for OTP, is it fine?

Even if I had like a vega64 + i7-9700k, and was drawing something like 600W. should I be worried?

A short circuit that the SCP doesnt pick up on can draw infinite load on a single connector. This is where OCP is useful.

 

A fan obstruction, or even the fan dying with overheat the power supply. This is why OTP is necessary.

 

The G2 wouldn't have been a better choice. It has the same issues, if not worse.

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13 hours ago, Rexper said:

A short circuit that the SCP doesnt pick up on can draw infinite load on a single connector. This is where OCP is useful.

  

A fan obstruction, or even the fan dying with overheat the power supply. This is why OTP is necessary.

 

The G2 wouldn't have been a better choice. It has the same issues, if not worse.

If its infinite load, shouldn't any ocp at all be triggered?

 

also, if the fan dies, and it overheats, will it damage my components? Not concerned at all, bc EVGA has great warranty, and I'm sure I'll get a new psu in 10y.


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17 hours ago, hello_there_123 said:

First point: yes. 

Second point: also yes, power surges and transient response time etc. exist and if you're not careful the G3 could damage components over time, have melted caps etc. 

so I should be worried because the G3 has bad transient response, and bad ripple etc??

I thought that it was good at that?

(By the way, I couldn't find any 750 G3, as jonnyguru website has been updated and is missing almost everything)

http://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2016/11/08/evga-supernova-1000-g3-power-supply/4/

1000G3 has great transient response

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-850-g3-psu,4930-8.html

850G3 has great on 12v and 5v, though 3.3v is above 3% (not terrible tho)


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18 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

By the way, just wondering, as long as you don't load the G3 (i.e I'm running just a 8400 + 570 on a 750W (yeah ik I use like 200W, G2 was out of stock, 550 G3 was 100$, and 650G3 was same price), is the g3 fine, since I am 500W+ away from the OCP, and if you have good airflow for OTP, is it fine?

Even if I had like a vega64 + i7-9700k, and was drawing something like 600W. should I be worried?

Yeah, probably. Not a great PSU even with that (noisy af) but it's probably fine. That said, don't get it if you have other options (RMx is my recommendation, G2 is also good)


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13 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Yeah, probably. Not a great PSU even with that (noisy af) but it's probably fine. That said, don't get it if you have other options (RMx is my recommendation, G2 is also good)

I already have it kek.

RMx was overpriced, and G2 was either out of stock or more expensive. Never heard the fan, even when I load up on AIDA64+Furmark.


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1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

I already have it kek.

RMx was overpriced, and G2 was either out of stock or more expensive. Never heard the fan, even when I load up on AIDA64+Furmark.

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I'm guessing you're running the PSU in its "eco" mode where the fans don't spin under a certain load? Really only going to be drawing 250w with an i5 8400 + rx570, might not be enough to trigger the fan when it's in eco mode.

 

Theres a switch on the PSU that toggles the eco mode, try turning that off and check if you can hear the fan.


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6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I'm guessing you're running the PSU in its "eco" mode where the fans don't spin under a certain load? Really only going to be drawing 250w with an i5 8400 + rx570, might not be enough to trigger the fan when it's in eco mode.

  

Theres a switch on the PSU that toggles the eco mode, try turning that off and check if you can hear the fan.

ik, toggled it, and with my ear to the floor next to the psu, its not above a whisper. Besides, if you consuming 500-600+W where the PSU fan has to spin up a bit, there are prob other fans that are much louder (gpu,cpu,radiator if custom loop)


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