Building my first computer since 2006, need some guidance

[onlyjuancannoli]

Hi all. Looking to put something together on somewhat of a budget for now, though I plan on room for upgrades in the nearish future. Just for reference the last time I was really "into" pc gaming I was running an nvidia 8600 GT lol! Ultimately my goals will be running either Oculus, or a triple screen setup for racing sims with heavy sim hardware being pieced together over time (OSW wheel, buttkickers, android tablet for sim gauges, and eventually a motion platform). 

I've spent the evening every night for the last week doing my fair share of youtube research. Seems the best bang for the buck is the 2600k, though as everyone says the mobo's are stupidly expensive on eBay. For the $200-250 range that it seems I'd be in after that combo, is there anything else out there thats slightly more future proof for the same level of performance? Ideally all I care to do is run Assetto Corsa, Pcars 2, F1 201x, iRacing, etc all at highest, or near highest settings. Rig won't be used for anything else. I bought Assetto Corsa earlier this week and tried it with my budget cockpit setup on my girlfriends system and as far as I could tell I was at ultra everything running 1080p. I didn't monitor frame rates but the system ran incredibly smooth. She has a i5 4590, ASRock Z97, GTX 960 4gb, and 8 gb of ram. 

 

Greatly appreciate your time. Look forward to hearing some feedback. Thanks!

[LienusLateTips]

How about a Ryzen 5 1600 + B350 board? It's been the first time in a while where AMD products are incredibly competitive.

 

A R5 1600 is $159 and a B350 board is about $70-80.

[Herman Mcpootis]

what's your budget?

[onlyjuancannoli]

12 minutes ago, JDE said:

How about a Ryzen 5 1600 + B350 board? It's been the first time in a while where AMD products are incredibly competitive.

 

A R5 1600 is $159 and a B350 board is about $70-80.

I haven't touched an AMD cpu probably since they were competitive back with the Athlon XP !!! Learn me about the new Ryzens. Not against it, but all I've had experience with is i5 and i7's lately since I've been using mac's since 2010. 

10 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

what's your budget?

Well lets start with 0 and work from there ? I know I'm not going to be able to get by with this spending less than $500 so I'll go with that. Already setting aside $100 for a GTX 960, that seems to be the going rate for them on eBay/craigslist, unless you can suggest a better option with better value?

[LienusLateTips]

7 minutes ago, onlyjuancannoli said:

I haven't touched an AMD cpu probably since they were competitive back with the Athlon XP !!! Learn me about the new Ryzens. Not against it, but all I've had experience with is i5 and i7's lately since I've been using mac's since 2010.  

Basically they made a new architecture and it's a huge hit. They copied Intel's numbering scheme so you can go from there.

7 minutes ago, onlyjuancannoli said:

Well lets start with 0 and work from there ? I know I'm not going to be able to get by with this spending less than $500 so I'll go with that. Already setting aside $100 for a GTX 960, that seems to be the going rate for them on eBay/craigslist, unless you can suggest a better option with better value?

If you want to play VR games a GTX 960 won't work. A GTX 1060/RX 580 is highly recommended. ($270-300)

[onlyjuancannoli]

10 minutes ago, JDE said:

Basically they made a new architecture and it's a huge hit. Basically they copied Intel's numbering scheme so you can go from there.

If you want to play VR games a GTX 960 won't work. A GTX 1060/RX 580 is highly recommended. ($270-300)

 

Hmmm. According to Oculus the minimum kit is a 960. They lowered the requirements about a year ago. https://www.oculus.com/blog/updating-rifts-minimum-and-recommended-spec-os-to-windows-10/. I remember reading an article on polygon and being quite excited, especially after the price drop was announced on the rift.

[Merlin Sa]

13 minutes ago, JDE said:

Basically they made a new architecture and it's a huge hit. They copied Intel's numbering scheme so you can go from there.

If you want to play VR games a GTX 960 won't work. A GTX 1060/RX 580 is highly recommended. ($270-300)

With a Rx 480 it runs perfectly.

[CapitalistVN]

I'd recommend an i5 8400, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 3GB. They are an awesome combo for not a lot and offers competitive performance for the price.

[Merlin Sa]

8 minutes ago, CapitalistVN said:

I'd recommend an i5 8400, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 3GB. They are an awesome combo for not a lot and offers competitive performance for the price.

No 3GB is too little for VR.

[LienusLateTips]

22 minutes ago, onlyjuancannoli said:

 

Hmmm. According to Oculus the minimum kit is a 960. They lowered the requirements about a year ago. https://www.oculus.com/blog/updating-rifts-minimum-and-recommended-spec-os-to-windows-10/. I remember reading an article on polygon and being quite excited, especially after the price drop was announced on the rift.

That's minimum. What country do you live in?

17 minutes ago, Merlin Sa said:

With a Rx 480 it runs perfectly.

The RX 580 is a rebranded 480, they don't sell that anymore...

11 minutes ago, CapitalistVN said:

I'd recommend an i5 8400, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1060 3GB. They are an awesome combo for not a lot and offers competitive performance for the price.

The 1060 3GB is about $20-50 less than the RX 580 4GB rn afaik.

[Merlin Sa]

9 minutes ago, JDE said:

The RX 580 is a rebranded 480, they don't sell that anymore...

Was just an example

9 minutes ago, JDE said:

The 1060 3GB is about $20-50 less than the RX 580 4GB rn afaik

But for VR gaming you need a lot of VRAM.

Edited June 28, 2018 by Merlin Sa

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Merlin Sa said:

Aber für VR Gaming braucht man viel VRAM.

Sorry, I don't speak German, like most people in Canada, and the rest of the world. Could you restate that in English?

[Merlin Sa]

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

Sorry, I don't speak German, like most people in Canada, and the rest of the world. Could you restate that in English?

I already changed it. I'm sorry

[onlyjuancannoli]

11 minutes ago, JDE said:

That's minimum. What country do you live in?

 

 

I'm in the US. 

[LienusLateTips]

7 minutes ago, onlyjuancannoli said:

 

I'm in the US. 

Here's a nice build that has a good upgrade path and will last you for 2-3 years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($150.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.87 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Red Devil Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.96 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $932.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-28 02:12 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 hour ago, onlyjuancannoli said:

Well lets start with 0 and work from there ? I know I'm not going to be able to get by with this spending less than $500 so I'll go with that. Already setting aside $100 for a GTX 960, that seems to be the going rate for them on eBay/craigslist, unless you can suggest a better option with better value?

with $500 you can find an older i7 prebuilt midtower and a smaller gtx 1060/RX 570/580

[LienusLateTips]

20 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

with $500 you can find an older i7 prebuilt midtower and a smaller gtx 1060/RX 570/580

GTX 1060 6GB/RX 580 cost $400 alone...

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 hour ago, JDE said:

GTX 1060 6GB/RX 580 cost $400 alone...

he's in the US and the prices have already went back down to almost normal, no way in hell they're still $400.

[Merlin Sa]

1 hour ago, JDE said:

GTX 1060 6GB/RX 580 cost $400 alone...

in Germany they only cost ~320$ (~275€)

[LienusLateTips]

29 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

he's in the US and the prices have already went back down to almost normal, no way in hell they're still $400.

Thinking of someone else lol, nvm

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Thinking of someone else lol, nvm

gtx 1070s? 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

gtx 1070s? 

No, another Canadian