Intel 4790k vs 8700K

[Holmes2468]

I know a lot of people are stating its not worth it and wait for the next gen cpu from intel (example Sky and Kaby). 

 

I was wondering if upgrading form the intel 4790k to the intel 8700 would be worth it? Especially when I can upgrade for about $600 to $800 for the new MB, RAM and i7. I normally game on a 3440x1440 monitor and my gpu is a gtx 1080. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3770827

[Enderman]

Wroth is subjective.

Depends whether the performance increase is worth that much money to you.

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

that all depends on what games you play... 

[Crosseyed Sniper]

If you're not able to run the games as well as you would like, or not getting great results from the software you use, then upgrade. That motherboard has a lot of negative reviews, though.

 

Also, Intel will be releasing an 8-core any day now, so maybe you should wait and see what that CPU is all about. 

[Holmes2468]

On 6/17/2018 at 8:44 PM, firelighter487 said:

that all depends on what games you play... 

Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion, Ruse, World of Tanks, World of Warships, Fallout 3, NV and 4, GTAV, Far Cry 5, Just Cause 3 and War Thunder

 

On 6/17/2018 at 8:45 PM, Crosseyed Sniper said:

If you're not able to run the games as well as you would like, or not getting great results from the software you use, then upgrade. That motherboard has a lot of negative reviews, though.

 

Also, Intel will be releasing an 8-core any day now, so maybe you should wait and see what that CPU is all about. 

The other MB I was looking at was this MSI board too https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144106

I like the idea of waiting for the 8 core but something tells me its going to be everyone say wait for the next gen before upgrading. 

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

1 minute ago, Holmes2468 said:

Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion, Ruse, World of Tanks, World of Warships, Fallout 3, NV and 4, GTAV, Far Cry 5, Just Cause 3 and War Thunder

i'm not familiar with any of those 

 

the point is, games that aren't cpu intensive won't really make use of an 8700. good example is Overwatch. i have a 12 core - 24 thread system, and overwatch uses 6 threads. so in your case for that game upgrading won't make a difference because you have 8 threads, and more powerful one's than mine. 

 

i hope you understand where i'm coming from. games have been coded for a while to take advantage of 8 threads maximum, because that's what we were at for a really long time. it's only with recent games that we're seeing support for more threads. 

 

so do some research on benchmarks of the games that you play and see if it makes a big enough difference to upgrade. if not, you might as well wait because if a game comes out that takes advantage of a cpu with more than 8 threads, you might as well upgrade then because better cpu's are available then. 

[Holmes2468]

I've been seeing 20+ FPS gains from the 4790k to the 9700k at 1440 and I do have a 100 hertz panel

Edited June 18, 2018 by Holmes2468

[Emberstone]

You should be pretty close to GPU-limited with the 4790K in most games. Is it overclocked?

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

2 minutes ago, Holmes2468 said:

I've been seeing 10+ FPS gains from the 4790k to the 9700k at 1440 and I do have a 100 hertz panel

ah ok. a 100hz panel mixes it up a bit. i only have 60.. 

 

look if you think that amount of money is worth it to take advantage of your display then go for it.. i'm just saying do some good research first. i'm quite dissapointed with multi thread support. i've had Minecraft for example max out one of the threads and start lagging. no matter what i tried. gpu usage was at about 25% so.. yeah. 20fps in minecraft with a 780ti because of poor multi threaded support. 

[Snipergod87]

So is 10+ FPS increases worth $800 and a complete re-install of Windows to you, is the question you need to find the answer to.

[Holmes2468]

On 6/17/2018 at 9:01 PM, Emberstone said:

You should be pretty close to GPU-limited with the 4790K in most games. Is it overclocked?

4.7ghz 4.8 and above was unstable. 

 

On 6/17/2018 at 9:01 PM, Snipergod87 said:

So is 10+ FPS increases worth $800 and a complete re-install of Windows to you is the question you need to find the answer to.

Sorry, I mean 20

[sillypenguin213]

If I were you, I would sell this 4790k for $250 at least, buy a i5 8600k, 4Gx2 used ram and a used motherboard. BHphoto has some good deal like this one https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801790350-USE/msi_z370_gaming_m5_lga.html 

So at the end, you only have to add $250 for a new platform 

[argumentum]

4 hours ago, Holmes2468 said:

Sorry, I mean 20

Next future CPU is always better, but is not now. If you have the money and really want to. I'd say go for it. 

[MMKing]

Intel's 6 core 12 thread options is little more than a stop-gap measure until they can bring out the more powerful 8 core options, be it because they are unable or if they hold them back to get some more money out of their customers is up to you to decide.

 

I'm quite happy with my 4770k and i see no reason to change it before they can offer some affordable 8 core CPUs, no matter how long it takes them. Besides, AMD has 8 cores 16 threads on offer at a similar price point.

[Froody129]

9 hours ago, sillypenguin213 said:

If I were you, I would sell this 4790k for $250 at least, buy a i5 8600k, 4Gx2 used ram and a used motherboard. BHphoto has some good deal like this one https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801790350-USE/msi_z370_gaming_m5_lga.html 

So at the end, you only have to add $250 for a new platform 

But why? It performs the same as the 7700k, which is only a tiny bit better than the 4790k. 

 

I wouldn't bother upgrading. You're not being bottlenecks at your resolution and it's still a really powerful CPU at good clocks 

[i_build_nanosuits]

12 hours ago, Holmes2468 said:

I know a lot of people are stating its not worth it and wait for the next gen cpu from intel (example Sky and Kaby). 

 

I was wondering if upgrading form the intel 4790k to the intel 8700 would be worth it? Especially when I can upgrade for about $600 to $800 for the new MB, RAM and i7. I normally game on a 3440x1440 monitor and my gpu is a gtx 1080. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3770827

for gaming? on a 3440x1440 with a GTX 1080? ABSOLUTE waste of money...0 FPS gains...and i mean ZERO...because you are ENTIRELY and PURELY GPU bound...in all games.

[Holmes2468]

3 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

for gaming? on a 3440x1440 with a GTX 1080? ABSOLUTE waste of money...0 FPS gains...and i mean ZERO...because you are ENTIRELY and PURELY GPU bound...in all games.

Would it be worth then to upgrade the RAM from 1600 MHz to a 2400mhz ram?

[wildgg]

8700k user here coming from a 4790k 

 

i can tell you from my experience i felt my games ran smoother and i got about a 30fps gain in most titles (1080p)

 

worth it? i would wait one more generation to be honest with you.

[Holmes2468]

19 minutes ago, wildthing said:

8700k user here coming from a 4790k 

 

i can tell you from my experience i felt my games ran smoother and i got about a 30fps gain in most titles (1080p)

 

worth it? i would wait one more generation to be honest with you.

Wait until the Intel 9700k? I guess I can wait. Would you say upgrading the ram from 1600mhz to a 2400mhz would be a good upgrade to the 4790k when it comes to overclocking it? 

[wildgg]

1 minute ago, Holmes2468 said:

Wait until the Intel 9700k? I guess I can wait. Would you say upgrading the ram from 1600mhz to a 2400mhz would be a good upgrade to the 4790k when it comes to overclocking it? 

Waiting is up to you, are you happy with the performance now? if yes i would wait.

if you going to upgrade to w/e the next gen will be i wouldn't upgrade the ram

[Holmes2468]

6 minutes ago, wildthing said:

Waiting is up to you, are you happy with the performance now? if yes i would wait.

if you going to upgrade to w/e the next gen will be i wouldn't upgrade the ram

Okay. I was wanting a newer MB also to use both of my m.2 ssds. I currently own a hyperx 512gb and it's 95% filled. I ordered a Samsung 1tb 970 Evo m.2 to replace it. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

On 6/18/2018 at 12:04 PM, Holmes2468 said:

Would it be worth then to upgrade the RAM from 1600 MHz to a 2400mhz ram?

no not at all...if you have money burning your hands why not get an oculus rift + touch bundle...it's AMAZING...had mine for about 8 months now and i use it everyday and it's worth every penny...your computer is fine...sry mate

 

 

On 6/18/2018 at 12:50 PM, Holmes2468 said:

Okay. I was wanting a newer MB also to use both of my m.2 ssds. I currently own a hyperx 512gb and it's 95% filled. I ordered a Samsung 1tb 970 Evo m.2 to replace it. 

why would you do that? why not just get a 1TB Sata SSD...they are just as fast, they cost less, and wont require an m.2 slot.

[Emberstone]

18 hours ago, Holmes2468 said:

4.7ghz 4.8 and above was unstable. 

4.7 GHz is still a very good overclock. I honestly wouldn't worry. The 4790K at that speed is still a damn fast CPU, right up there with the best of them. Maybe wait one more generation? I don't really think you're going to get much out of upgrading that processor.

 

Hell, I used an i7-980X at STOCK (3.33 GHz) from 2010 to 2016, then I overclocked it to 4.0 GHz when I got a GTX 1070 (it wasn't anywhere close to bottlenecking my GTX 770 at stock clocks). I finally upgraded it in May of 2017, and now it's in my sister's PC. It took me seven years to justify upgrading in that case, and I think you're in a similar boat with your 4790K. It's also top of the line, and overclocked high.

 

It's still got time left IMO.

[Holmes2468]

1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

why would you do that? why not just get a 1TB Sata SSD...they are just as fast, they cost less, and wont require an m.2 slot.

The Samsung gets up to 3.4 gbps vs a sata ssd's 560mbps. 

 

I use.2 because my case only has 2 drive slots and one is filled with a 3.5 and the other is the NZXT controller. 

[O9B0666]

3 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

why would you do that? why not just get a 1TB Sata SSD...they are just as fast, they cost less, and wont require an m.2 slot.

M.2 can be wayyyy faster... Plus less wires for a cleaner look.