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ukHorizon

Hello

I bought a cheap MSI GT 730 4GB Graphics card to tide me over for the weekend whilst waiting for a new one to arrive, I only intend to play LoL and bit of CSGO whilst waiting for the new card.

The issue I am having is if I download the latest drivers (including previous few versions) direct from the Nvidia website the install always fails on "No supported graphics card found" or something like that. The only way I have got it to work by not using the default windows VGA drivers is downloading the driver on the manufacturer's website which are from 2012 according to GPU-Z. https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/N730-4GD3V2

Installing the drivers from the MSI website and then attempting to update via Geforce Experience gives the same hardware cannot be found error.

I have tried unplugging card and re-seating it multiple times, I have checked the Vendor/Model ID's and they come back to a GT 730 so I am attempting to download the correct latest drivers and have not been scammed with some re-stickered 630 or something.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Specs

Core i7 7700k Stock speeds / Gigabyte Z270-Gaming / 16GB Corsair 3200mhz / MSI GT 730 4GB

On a side note the drivers that I got to work don't seem to be enabling the graphics card to run at its potential, It will not go past PCI-E Gen 1 speeds despite using the GPU-Z render button that makes the GPU run at 100% load. I get very low FPS at 1080p on LoL with the settings on Very Low/Low of around 70fps with constant visual lag where I get more using the onboard HD 630 graphics of my 7700k and that's restricted to 128MB of Vram.

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Model I/D can actually be spoofed.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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21 minutes ago, ukHorizon said:

Hello

I bought a cheap MSI GT 730 4GB Graphics card to tide me over for the weekend whilst waiting for a new one to arrive, I only intend to play LoL and bit of CSGO whilst waiting for the new card.

The issue I am having is if I download the latest drivers (including previous few versions) direct from the Nvidia website the install always fails on "No supported graphics card found" or something like that. The only way I have got it to work by not using the default windows VGA drivers is downloading the driver on the manufacturer's website which are from 2012 according to GPU-Z. https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/N730-4GD3V2

Installing the drivers from the MSI website and then attempting to update via Geforce Experience gives the same hardware cannot be found error.

I have tried unplugging card and re-seating it multiple times, I have checked the Vendor/Model ID's and they come back to a GT 730 so I am attempting to download the correct latest drivers and have not been scammed with some re-stickered 630 or something.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Specs

Core i7 7700k Stock speeds / Gigabyte Z270-Gaming / 16GB Corsair 3200mhz / MSI GT 730 4GB

On a side note the drivers that I got to work don't seem to be enabling the graphics card to run at its potential, It will not go past PCI-E Gen 1 speeds despite using the GPU-Z render button that makes the GPU run at 100% load. I get very low FPS at 1080p on LoL with the settings on Very Low/Low of around 70fps with constant visual lag where I get more using the onboard HD 630 graphics of my 7700k and that's restricted to 128MB of Vram.

This was happening to me when I finally got my first dedicated GPU in my first PC. 
First PC specs:

Intel Core i3-4170

8GB RAM DDR3

Asus GTX 960 Turbo 4GB 

Some generic Asus OEM mATX motherboard

 

The Problem on my end ended up being that I had left the iGPU enabled when I installed the GPU. In the BIOS I had to both disable CPU graphics in the CPU settings, but also switch the default graphics interface from Auto to PCIe. 

Primary PC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8G3tXv (Windows 10 Home)

HTPC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdBb4n (Windows 10 Home)
Server: Dell Precision T7500 - Dual Xeon X5660's, 44GB ECC DDR3, Dell Nvidia GTX 645 (Windows Server 2019 Standard)      

*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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8 minutes ago, Giiman95 said:

Latest Drivers may not include compatibility for that card.

 

Try this:

Go to https://www.geforce.com/drivers and fill in the manual driver selection with your OS and GPU info.

I did fill it out manually but still had the same problem

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Maybe attempt to re-seat the graphics card, or maybe try ddu. Did you buy the card at a local store? if so then return it and grab a different one.

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12 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

This was happening to me when I finally got my first dedicated GPU in my first PC. 
First PC specs:

Intel Core i3-4170

8GB RAM DDR3

Asus GTX 960 Turbo 4GB 

Some generic Asus OEM mATX motherboard

 

The Problem on my end ended up being that I had left the iGPU enabled when I installed the GPU. In the BIOS I had to both disable CPU graphics in the CPU settings, but also switch the default graphics interface from Auto to PCIe. 

Disabled onboard GPU and tried it again and still fails

NVIDIA GeForce Experience_2018-06-16_23-28-47.png

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5 minutes ago, unkn0wn1 said:

Maybe attempt to re-seat the graphics card, or maybe try ddu. Did you buy the card at a local store? if so then return it and grab a different one.

Re-seated many times as stated in OP, DDU was used before I first put the GPU in and was bought off FB Marketplace, Was shown working as was only £25.

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2 minutes ago, ukHorizon said:

Disabled onboard GPU and tried it again and still fails

NVIDIA GeForce Experience_2018-06-16_23-28-47.png

Are you using the GPU to display out right now? If you are, iGPU is disabled and is set to PCIe graphics, then GPU might be slightly defective.

Primary PC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8G3tXv (Windows 10 Home)

HTPC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdBb4n (Windows 10 Home)
Server: Dell Precision T7500 - Dual Xeon X5660's, 44GB ECC DDR3, Dell Nvidia GTX 645 (Windows Server 2019 Standard)      

*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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Yes I am using the GT 730 currently, I am not sure why the drivers from the MSI website work fine but the manually downloaded GT 730 drivers from Nvidia do not..

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The 7700k I GPU performs roughly the same as a 730 so I would just return it. 

That's an F in the profile pic

 

 

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