Who's getting/got a 8086k?

[Christophe Corazza]

22 hours ago, wildthing said:

well in that case why do you consider buying a 8086k? which is a binned chip in the first place.

if you want the fun finding out yourself save some money and get the 8700k and find out what you get

 

The 8086K is indeed a binned 8700K but with 8086K lettering. I guess the exclusivity factor of having a limited edition chip seems attractive?

[wildgg]

42 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

The 8086K is indeed a binned 8700K buth with 8086K lettering. I guess the exclusivity factor of having a limited edition chip seems attractive?

yeah for sure, some people like to have a limited edition item.

but if OP says he wants to overclock and find the chip limits himself because that is indeed the fun part about overclocking, then the 8086K isn't worth it unless you want it because it is a limited edition item.

[Princess Luna]

Not me, still waiting for the 8 cores variant to replace my locked i7 8700.

[porina]

2 hours ago, wildthing said:

well in that case why do you consider buying a 8086k? which is a binned chip in the first place.

if you want the fun finding out yourself save some money and get the 8700k and find out what you get

By your usage of binning, ALL CPUs are binned. That's not what I meant. I don't want some company telling me a CPU will do say 5.0 GHz all cores. Intel are not saying the 8086k will do 5 GHz all cores. That is still unknown territory. Presumed not worse than a 8700k, but I don't know. 

 

Put another way, the 8700k is 3.7 base 4.7 turbo, with 4.3 all core turbo. The 8086k is 4.0 base, 5.0 turbo, unknown all core turbo. My goal is 5.0+ all core clock. Intel is not binning the 8086k to say it will deliver that. The 8086k may or may not have better chances of hitting 5.0+, but even if not, it will still have slightly higher stock clocks which is what I actually run outside of benchmarking.

 

Edit: I thought of a better way to say it. I wont buy a retailer binned CPU. By definition, all CPUs are manufacturer binned. With the 8086k, I'm mildly hoping it'll be kinda like the Ryzen non-X to X difference, on average the X version does a little better, but there are no guarantees.

 

1 hour ago, Christophe Corazza said:

What algorithm are you running?

I jump around a lot but most types are searched for by LLR, occasionally genefer or pfgw.

 

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Any prior experience?

I've overclocked on and off through the years, but never competitively. Actually, even saying that might be a bit of a stretch as I main do hwbot, where you can to an extent buy your way up. I also entered a competition on ocn recently and...  yeah, lets just say I have room for improvement. There's overclocking, then there's competitive overclocking.

[Christophe Corazza]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not me, still waiting for the 8 cores variant to replace my locked i7 8700.

 

@Princess Cadence you really disappoint me 

From everyone on the forum, I really thought that you were a real techy and would have an unlocked CPU 

[Christophe Corazza]

15 minutes ago, porina said:

I jump around a lot but most types are searched for by LLR, occasionally genefer or pfgw.

 

I'm not into prime searching, but I've just now looked at the algorithms you've mentioned. Don't they simplpy eat memory? Is the 16 GB in your PC enough for that?

[porina]

11 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

I'm not into prime searching, but I've just now looked at the algorithms you've mentioned. Don't they simplpy eat memory? Is the 16 GB in your PC enough for that?

They are limited either by CPU execution resource or ram bandwidth depending on the size of the task. The fastest code runs FMA3, where intel have about double IPC over Ryzen. Ram quantity isn't important. 

[Christophe Corazza]

20 minutes ago, porina said:

They are limited either by CPU execution resource or ram bandwidth depending on the size of the task. The fastest code runs FMA3, where intel have about double IPC over Ryzen. Ram quantity isn't important. 

 

Bandwith is indeed crucial in most simulations/calculations.

I run calculations that can even fill 128 GB of RAM in an instant. However, I didn't knew that RAM quantity is not really important in your case. I'm not into prime searching, so I never actually ran these algorithms  

 

Do you search for prime numbers purely as a hobby?

[PineyCreek]

I'm kind of curious as to how limited this "Limited Edition" is.

[porina]

2 hours ago, PineyCreek said:

I'm kind of curious as to how limited this "Limited Edition" is.

They stated they're only making 50000 of them, and 8086 of them are to be used for the giveaway.

 

 

Also...

 

One to keep an eye on over at Ananadtech. From previous tweets I believe he's focusing on gaming, and the test system has an AIO and there's no mention of delid so far.

 

[Christophe Corazza]

2 hours ago, PineyCreek said:

I'm kind of curious as to how limited this "Limited Edition" is.

 

“Limited” enough for Intel to be coining in pretty good ;-)

[Rambo]

I ordered one because I've been thinking about upgrading my old 3930k rig to something modern  and a limited edition cpu would be nice to have. 

I can't justify going with 2066 but I "need" my 6-cores

 

What motherboards are you considering for the 8086k? 

Wouldn't it be nice to have matching numbers on cpu and ram speeds? 

Just for the lols! 

 

 

[Christophe Corazza]

12 minutes ago, Rambo said:

Wouldn't it be nice to have matching numbers on cpu and ram speeds? 

 

8086 MHz RAM speed?!?!?! 

[Rambo]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

8086 MHz RAM speed?!?!?! 

More like 4000-5000 MHz?

[porina]

2 hours ago, Rambo said:

What motherboards are you considering for the 8086k? 

I'm reusing an Asrock Z370 Pro4. It's on the cheaper end but works fine. I've had an 8350k at 5.0 on it with manually overclocked ram at 3866.

 

2 hours ago, Rambo said:

Wouldn't it be nice to have matching numbers on cpu and ram speeds? 

Just for the lols! 

For my personal compute use case, I don't think you can have fast enough ram on this... I'd like to see a shuffling of Intel's lineup, like maybe bring back 3-channel ram on higher end mainstream.

[Ground]

3 hours ago, Rambo said:

 

Wouldn't it be nice to have matching numbers on cpu and ram speeds? 

Have fun binning CPUs trying to find one that can daily 5000 MHz RAM. Anything above 4000 is pretty crazy on voltages usable on a daily system...

[Rambo]

2 hours ago, Ground said:

Have fun binning CPUs trying to find one that can daily 5000 MHz RAM. Anything above 4000 is pretty crazy on voltages usable on a daily system...

I was thinking of an Asus Maximus X Apex motherboard  paired with a 4500 MHz kit from Corsair but the 4000 MHz kit is half the price! LOL!

 

I guess I´ll have a cheaper motherboard then, like the Maximus X Hero

Edited June 10, 2018 by Rambo

[Pascal1573]

I am wondering, are the i7-8086K and the i7-8700K really the same CPU's if you want to compare those two?

I am asking because of this.

The 8700K has VPro Technology, the 8086K doesn't.The 8700K has "SIPP", the 8086K doesn't.

https://ark.intel.com/compare/126684,148263

So for a minute don't look at the cost and the core speeds. Wouldn't it be a better choice to go for the 8700K? because of the VPro and SIPP technology?

I'm asking because I'm looking to upgrade my system.

This would be my choice of interest.:    ASUS Prime Z370-P / i7 8700K / 16GB /  be quiet! Pure Rock fan

[porina]

40 minutes ago, Pascal1573 said:

So for a minute don't look at the cost and the core speeds.Wouldn't be a better choice to go for the 8700K? because of the VPro and SIPP technology?

VPro and SIPP only have value if they mean something to you. I had to look it up, as although I've heard of VPro before, I wasn't so sure about SIPP. The two are kinda related, and are Intel schemes to make life for large business or organisations buying lots of PCs a little easier, by ensuring a consistent system level specification. On that note, it makes sense for the 8086k not to be specifically included as it is a limited edition, thus ongoing availability is not going to be a selling point.

[SHADY16]

i have been considering it but unless i win i dont think upgrding from the 6700k would be worth the money at this time correct me if i am wrong

[Kalm_Traveler]

4 hours ago, SHADY16 said:

i have been considering it but unless i win i dont think upgrding from the 6700k would be worth the money at this time correct me if i am wrong

Nobody can tell you what is 'worth the money' to you.

 

If you will benefit from it, even just in the sense of satisfaction from owning a 'limited edition' 6 core chip, that could make it 'worth it' to you. 

 

Anyone trying to make blanket statements about whether or not anything is worth the price is only stating their opinion about their own situation - you ultimately decide what something is worth for yourself. 

[porina]

8 hours ago, SHADY16 said:

i have been considering it but unless i win i dont think upgrding from the 6700k would be worth the money at this time correct me if i am wrong

Based on your sig we have similar spec main systems. The 8086k will no doubt be faster, but how much in what use cases, for now much cash? Too many variables.

[porina]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12945/intel-core-i7-8086k-review

 

Anandtech write up is live! In short, if you don't OC, don't get it as it is practically same as 8700k as 2+ core turbos are the same.

[porina]

On 10/06/2018 at 9:04 AM, Rambo said:

Wouldn't it be nice to have matching numbers on cpu and ram speeds? 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12946/gskills-dram-extremes-ddr4-4000-on-amd-ryzen

 

G.Skill 5066 do you?

[Christophe Corazza]

7 minutes ago, porina said:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12946/gskills-dram-extremes-ddr4-4000-on-amd-ryzen

 

G.Skill 5066 do you?

 

Still 3000 MHz short though