{Update} Over 150k projects ditch GitHub and move to GitLab following MSFT leaks & news

[ItsMitch]

6 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I meant saving GitHub. But that too.

GitHub already had strong financials but it made no money in terms of profit. It only went through 2 rounds of funding from external raisers.

[Mira Yurizaki]

2 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Saving GitHub? It doesn't really need saving. Let Microsoft have it, and the people who disagree with Microsoft can move away from it. I don't think people are complaining because they don't have other options. It's more "Aww man! My mom married that dick from down the street. I already bought another apartment but I didn't really want to go through the work of boxing up my stuff. Nuts."

So basically this thread is another circle jerk in bashing Micrsoft.

 

I mean, people are free to do that, but I just want to make sure.

[Sniperfox47]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

So basically this thread is another circle jerk in bashing Micrsoft.

 

I mean, people are free to do that, but I just want to make sure.

Pretty much yeah

[Drak3]

13 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I meant saving GitHub. But that too.

Oh, offer $7.6bn USD.

[Christophe Corazza]

On 5-6-2018 at 5:31 PM, M.Yurizaki said:

So basically this thread is another circle jerk in bashing Micrsoft.

 

I mean, people are free to do that, but I just want to make sure.

 

We could also start bashing Apple 

[ItsMitch]

8 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

So basically this thread is another circle jerk in bashing Micrsoft.

 

No? Reporting the news is now considered a circlejerk, good to know. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

2 minutes ago, SC2Mitch said:

No? Reporting the news is now considered a circlejerk, good to know. 

It doesn't matter what the OP is when the rest of the thread derails into something else that is minimally related.

 

Well dammit.

[yian88]

Serves them right (GitHub) for trying to get in bed with Microsoft, if GitHub doesnt back down this will be their end.

Anyway as long as Git exists other open platforms will exist.

 

Im more worried ATM about EU retarded link tax and police state laws. Also my country's socialist garbage gov, that has a chokehold on justice and seems they are winning.

 

50K may not seem that many projects, but its 50k just from rumours, if the deal gets done millions will move from GitHub, Microsoft wont care as long as they get what they want and EEE GiitHub, and the GitHub party gets the cash$ so they wont care either.

[Cheezdoodlez]

2 minutes ago, yian88 said:

Serves them right (GitHub) for trying to get in bed with Microsoft, if GitHub doesnt back down this will be their end.

Anyway as long as Git exists other open platforms will exist.

 

Im more worried ATM about EU retarded link tax and police state laws. Also my country's socialist garbage gov, that has a chokehold on justice and seems they are winning.

 

50K may not seem that many projects, but its 50k just from rumours, if the deal gets done millions will move from GitHub, Microsoft wont care as long as they get what they want and EEE GiitHub, and the GitHub party gets the cash$ so they wont care either.

The deal is closed and official.. 

[mr moose]

7 hours ago, Sniperfox47 said:

And it's that mentality that keeps people using services they despise. As a business, by all means keep using a service if it makes you money, but as an individual? If you disagree with a company and what it does you should do what's in your power to avoid using their services.

 

I stopped using GitHub due to the buyout. That's not out of fear that they'll mess with my projects. That's not out of fear that they'll abuse the platform. It's because as a user I really have 0 ties to the platform, I don't agree with Microsoft's principles, and I don't want my money going to support anything they do.

 

As an individual by all means choose the services you use on the basis of your ideology.

 

Much of the open source community disagrees with Microsoft's business practices. Much of the open source community doesn't wish to support them. And much of the open source community is community driven by individuals, not major companies. As such it feels more than a little disingenuous to characterize it as (paraphrased) "Oh they should have stayed on a platform who's money now goes to a company they disagree with. It's just a gut reaction and they're overreacting".

You excluded a very important part of my post. 

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that's just a knee jerk reaction based on internet rhetoric/idealogs

You are not describing a knee jerk reaction, you are describing a considered approach to the information that takes into account what you have to gain, loose and your own personal ideals.  Knee jerk reactions do not generally consider anything, that is why it is called a knee jerk reaction, it is a rection done automatically without thought. 

[ItsMitch]

 

It just keeps on going

[Mira Yurizaki]

GitHub reported in 2017 they had 67 million repositories.

 

150,000 of 67 million is 0.22%.

 

Let me know when the number of imports to other repos from GitHub reaches some (arbitrary) statistically significant number.

[PocketNerd]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

GitHub reported in 2017 they had 67 million repositories.

 

150,000 of 67 million is 0.22%.

 

Let me know when the number of imports to other repos from GitHub reaches some (arbitrary) statistically significant number.

How many of those are active, though?

[ItsMitch]

3 minutes ago, PocketNerd said:

How many of those are active, though?

E. See below

[LAwLz]

13 hours ago, mr moose said:

You excluded a very important part of my post. 

You are not describing a knee jerk reaction, you are describing a considered approach to the information that takes into account what you have to gain, loose and your own personal ideals.  Knee jerk reactions do not generally consider anything, that is why it is called a knee jerk reaction, it is a rection done automatically without thought. 

What makes you think this is a knee-jerk reaction and not a "considered approach to the information"?

[Misanthrope]

Well this is baffling: Github owners are now richer than the CEO of Microsoft and own more shares on the company:

 

 

This is definitively not normal: I am thinking somewhere in github they basically had something like Microsoft's entire software lineup in open source or something, what about github could possibly be worth so fucking much money that nobody outside of Bill fucking Gates in Microsoft is richer than these 3 guys?

 

https://www.techspot.com/news/74950-microsoft-turns-github-founders-billionaires.html

[yian88]

11 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

GitHub reported in 2017 they had 67 million repositories.

 

150,000 of 67 million is 0.22%.

 

Let me know when the number of imports to other repos from GitHub reaches some (arbitrary) statistically significant number.

Honestly guys i dont think the overall percentage is important, because there are probably millions of inactive,unprofessional, unmaintained repo's on github.

What's important is how many major sized repo's and companies are making the move, if 150k of the most important repo's and major companies switched from github that is huge, and we cant know that yet.

If microsoft makes one wrong step, a lot more will leave github. Regardless, i dont think many people care as long as github keeps working as before.

[LAwLz]

18 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

This is definitively not normal: I am thinking somewhere in github they basically had something like Microsoft's entire software lineup in open source or something, what about github could possibly be worth so fucking much money that nobody outside of Bill fucking Gates in Microsoft is richer than these 3 guys?

There is no way they spend that much money buying a company, a company that is estimated to losing millions of dollars each month, just to keep it the same.

Microsoft is planning something.

[ItsMitch]

29 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Well this is baffling: Github owners are now richer than the CEO of Microsoft and own more shares on the company:

 

 

This is definitively not normal: I am thinking somewhere in github they basically had something like Microsoft's entire software lineup in open source or something, what about github could possibly be worth so fucking much money that nobody outside of Bill fucking Gates in Microsoft is richer than these 3 guys?

 

https://www.techspot.com/news/74950-microsoft-turns-github-founders-billionaires.html

How the fuck? A company that's making literally zero profit year on year and they're richer than the CEOs, Microsoft pulling big boy moves soon I guess

[Misanthrope]

2 minutes ago, SC2Mitch said:

How the fuck? A company that's making literally zero profit year on year and they're richer than the CEOs, Microsoft pulling big boy moves soon I guess

This is reminding me of the Michael Scott Paper Company buyout.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[suicidalfranco]

Just now, SC2Mitch said:

How the fuck? A company that's making literally zero profit year on year and they're richer than the CEOs, Microsoft pulling big boy moves soon I guess

And nothing will change, MS will leave it as is.

At least that's what i picked up from the two threads on this subject.

[LAwLz]

Just realized that this also means Microsoft now owns and controls Electron. Not sure I like that...

 

For those wondering what Electron is. It's an open source application framework developed by the Github team. In short, it allows developers to make GUIs which will look and work the same on Windows, MacOS and GNU/Linux. It does so by essentially starting Chrome (special version of Chrome called CEF) and then using standard web technologies like HTML, CSS and JavaScript to render everything.

 

Microsoft uses Electron quite a bit (Teams, VS Code and Skype), but so does their competitors (Discord, Slack, Signal, WhatsApp, and so on).

 

Not sure if they will do it, but I could see them attempt to replace Chromium inside Electron with Edge.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 hour ago, yian88 said:

Honestly guys i dont think the overall percentage is important, because there are probably millions of inactive,unprofessional, unmaintained repo's on github.

What's important is how many major sized repo's and companies are making the move, if 150k of the most important repo's and major companies switched from github that is huge, and we cant know that yet.

If microsoft makes one wrong step, a lot more will leave github. Regardless, i dont think many people care as long as github keeps working as before.

Well that's primarily my beef with this thread. It just provides a number and expect people to make sound judgment calls from that piece of information alone.

 

There's no context for which that number can be fully understood other than repos are being moved.

[TechyBen]

On 05/06/2018 at 11:18 AM, mr moose said:

I do have to wonder how many of those 50K are just school projects and amateur shit like that.  In my experience business people who are easily spooked and don't wait to see whats happening before jumping ship usually end up bankrupt. 

 

On 05/06/2018 at 12:25 PM, mr moose said:

You're right, healthy skepticism is exactly that, healthy.    It's this "fuck MS" and "I'm moving" before the dust has even settled rhetoric that is not healthy, that's just a knee jerk reaction based on internet rhetoric/idealogs.  it's never worked for governments, it's ever worked for business and it will certainly never work for individuals. 

You seen to think that none of these companies are in direct competition with MS, and are not reading their T&C and pondering over their ability to control or influence GitHub. A rival company owning your service provider is not really desirable, unless you can leverage that for a mutual benefit.

[One of the companies I worked for, would spit in the direction of competitors, but for those providing a service, would sell their left kidney to get a piece of the pie, and sometimes we did more turnover+profit through them, than we did directly. And this was a national retail company].

[EPENEX]

Oh no a closed source proprietary subscription based website is being bought by Microsoft... If anything with Microsoft's recent attitude towards things, this could be good.