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Posted · Original PosterOP

Update: More information reveals that over 150k projects have since moved to GL following GH MS purchase

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GitLabs are having a wonderful day today, first they confirmed that over the past week over 50'000 projects ditched GitHub(I'll refer to them as Gh)  and they changed over to GitLab (I'll refer to them as GL) and they have also confirmed a partnership agreement with Apple with their Xcode 10. 

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On Monday morning, Microsoft announced that it had acquired the popular collaborative software development platform Github for $7.5 billion in Microsoft stock. The announcement was met with mixed reactions from the developer community. Some looked at the acquisition as inevitable and the only way to sustain a free platform that had grown as large as Github. Others saw it as the death knell for a neutral, community-driven platform that was the de facto home of open source software development.

 

Rumors of the acquisition first began circulating over the weekend, which led to a mass migration of Github projects to its competitor’s platform, GitLab. A real-time tracker on GitLab shows a massive spike in imported Github projects early on Monday morning, with over 13,000 projects being imported within a single hour. Yet GitLab’s CEO and co-founder Sid Sijbrandij said the mass migration has been going on for nearly a week. 

“Within the past seven days, we have imported nearly 50,000 projects,” Sijbrandij told me in an email. “We’ve scaled up the servers for GitLab.com three times already.”

GitLab also confirmed that it's website is booming with over 13'400 views per minute.

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GitLab was founded in 2011, just three years after GitHub. It billed itself as a fully free and open source alternative to GitHub that can be implemented on your own servers. This was a contrast with Github, which was a closed source platform and available on the web. (GitHub did invest significant resources in two notable open source projects, Only a few years later, however, GitLab changed to an open core model, where a limited version of its software is free and open source and a more expansive version of its software is available on a paid-subscription model.

While I don't think GH will lose a night of sleep of losing customers, it'll certainly sting a little and will definitely please investors of GL. 

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3 minutes ago, SC2Mitch said:

Microsoft are known to be company eaters, eat them up and spit the ruined remains out :(

That's not my biggest concern here. I think Microsoft might "peruse" the Hub and then "coincidentally" release a feature without giving compensation to the teams that were working on "similar" feature. 

 

Replace:

"peruse" with "scout"

"coincidentally" with "intentionally"

"similar" with "same"

 

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Why does Microsoft want github? What do they stand to gain? Why are people jumping ship? What do they think Microsoft is going to do?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

Why does Microsoft want github? What do they stand to gain? Why are people jumping ship? What do they think Microsoft is going to do?

MS Azure is wanting dominance, transfering all of Githubs projects to it (couple of million) will boost numbers dramatically. Developers are rather concerned for their private repo's (GH has private areas where only Github Staff and the developer + invited "friends" can see) being exposed to MS grasp. 

 

 Good video on it. 

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The people in the "open source" community seems to have a disproportionate hatred for anything Microsoft does, regardless of what it is, and this just accentuate it.

 

9 hours ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

It would be amazing to see Google buying GitLab just to see how people would react.

"Lets hold hand and give our thanks to the lord and savior Google, for taking possession of this service, for we are unworthy of their almighty guidance."

 

 


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9 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

"Lets hold hand and our thanks to the lord and savior Google, for taking possession of this service, for we are unworthy of their almighty guidance."

 

Bow down to your internet overlords, or be punished. 

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14 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

The people in the "open source" community seems to have a disproportionate hatred for anything Microsoft does, regardless of what it is, and this just accentuate it.

 

"Lets hold hand and our thanks to the lord and savior Google, for taking possession of this service, for we are unworthy of their almighty guidance."

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Sierra Fox said:

gee. people sure love any reason to bash on MS don't they?

hmm

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lol ok 

http://www.catb.org/esr/halloween/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat%3a_And_Other_Issues_Regarding_the_'Source'_of_Open_Source_Code

 

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-profits-from-linux-patent-fud/

 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/microsoft-235-patent-specific-patent-infringements-in-linux/

 

http://techrights.org/2010/10/14/msft-scorpion-and-the-tortoise/


http://techrights.org/2016/03/10/charm-offensives-distract/
^That 2016 one's great, covers MS literally taking existing things from Linux distros and patenting them in a fraudulent and abusive manner. 

 

Oh, I remember reading this one janurary of this year. 

http://techrights.org/2018/01/16/microsoft-uses-patent-trolls/

 

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"Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches,"   Steve Ballmer , June 1, 2001.

 

 

 

So yea I can probably just keep going and going really, but I tried to give a spread over the years. 

I would love to make a nice list of micrsoft patent trolling history, not just MS but all proxies as well. It's shit like this 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5758352?oq=5%2c758%2c352

that's not even that bad in terms of what they get away with, I just like this one becuase literally Linus Torvalds himself helped invalidate it legally because, like normal, they took existing shit and patented it to attempt to troll competitors (in this case, Motorola) and foss solutions out of existence. 

 


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33 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

Why does Microsoft want github? What do they stand to gain? Why are people jumping ship? What do they think Microsoft is going to do?

The answer is the code that is in there contained.

 

I know most people will start saying it's crazy to think Microsoft could possibly attempt to monetize access to said code or even lift it for closed source projects, no way they'd try something so deeply unethical and such.

 

I am that distrustful of them, I don't think it's undeserved, glad we were able to get past all that nonsense.


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2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

They still have the worlds biggest spyware installation known as windows 10, that's reason enough to bash them.

which has nothing to do with them acquiring GitHub.

 

also "spyware" 

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spyware
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  1. software that enables a user to obtain covert information about another's computer activities by transmitting data covertly from their hard drive.

it's hardly a secret what they gather and they don't do it "covertly"


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1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

I know most people will start saying it's crazy to think Microsoft could possibly attempt to monetize access to said code or even lift it for closed source projects, no way they'd try something so deeply unethical and such.

 

Microsoft doing sketchy and unethical stuff? Where did you hear of this?! I heard they was the golden boy in class!

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3 minutes ago, SC2Mitch said:

Microsoft doing sketchy and unethical stuff? Where did you hear of this?! I heard they was the golden boy in class!

/s 

People like to forget the time professor European Union held him back on detention.


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Just now, Misanthrope said:

People like to forget the time professor European Union held him back on detention.

No-one liked that professor anyway...

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1 minute ago, SC2Mitch said:

No-one liked that professor anyway...

Specially not that Britain kid that threw a tantrum to get out of his class but now is trying to contact all of the school mates individually anyways.


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3 hours ago, Sierra Fox said:

gee. people sure love any reason to bash on MS don't they?

The spirit and purpose of Github is in complete opposition of how Microsoft operates and has behaved in the past.

Microsoft is a monopoly seeking for-profit corporation.They have a history of making services exclusive in order to reinforce their business agenda, as well as tainting software with unnecessary intrusive data collection elements that are beyond the users' control.


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2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

The spirit and purpose of Github is in complete opposition of how Microsoft operates and has behaved in the past.

So why blame Microsoft for this? It wasn't a hostile/forced purchase, GitHub agreed to it. Even if they were in financial trouble, if their spirit and purpose was opposed to how MS operates then they would not have let themselves be bought.

 

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Microsoft is a monopoly seeking for-profit corporation

so is every corporation. there is no one out there that would say no when given the chance to have all the money and remove all competition.

 

people will jump up and down at anything MS do, they could donate $20bil to sick and dying kids and people will try to spin it in a way that makes them look evil 

"they bought those kids to force them to work for them" or "they just did that to buy all their personal info"

 

The massive bias against MS completely clouds the judgement of people that believe everything they do is the worst possible thing in the world. 


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1 hour ago, Sierra Fox said:

So why blame Microsoft for this? It wasn't a hostile/forced purchase, GitHub agreed to it. Even if they were in financial trouble, if their spirit and purpose was opposed to how MS operates then they would not have let themselves be bought.

Because Github is a company and the owners do not necessarily have to give a shit about how it operates. You can be the CEO or director but if the shareholders give in to greed there is JACK ALL you can do about it.

 

1 hour ago, Sierra Fox said:

so is every corporation. there is no one out there that would say no when given the chance to have all the money and remove all competition.

 

people will jump up and down at anything MS do, they could donate $20bil to sick and dying kids and people will try to spin it in a way that makes them look evil 

"they bought those kids to force them to work for them" or "they just did that to buy all their personal info"

 

The massive bias against MS completely clouds the judgement of people that believe everything they do is the worst possible thing in the world. 

You can make money without being a monopoly. If every company out there was an anti-competitive douchebag you would be flipping tables instead of posting comments here.

"they donate X billion dollars to the poor" if you're not stuck in the past you would know this is copy paste PR move. They stick their logo everywhere in the campaign and publicize it like the second coming of jesus. Why not go to the vending machine at closest church to pay for forgiveness?

 

How about MS not giving us any real good reasons to develop a bias against them? Is our judgement clouded or are you blind to what they have been doing? How about not cherry picking only parts of my comment that you can argue against?


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1 minute ago, huilun02 said:

Or are you blind to what they have been doing?

no, because i simply do not care about the main point that people have against them because i don't automatically assume they are going to go full evil and ruin everything.

 

Solet's take the "spyware" argument that people keep making. In my job i have full unbridled access to every single one of our customer's details (all 1.5million of them and 90,000 shareholders) names, address, dates of birth, full financial records, credit checks and if i wanted to i could probably build a fairly convincing profile to determine what this person does for a job, what they do in their spare time and track their movements. But do i go through customer records? no, that's morally fucked up and would instantly get me fired. When i need to view a customer record, they are a number on a screen as far as im concerned and as soon as I'm done, i close it and instantly forget about it and move on.

 

Do you think MS has staff that just go through all the data they are collecting for shits and giggles? If they collect as much data as people make them out to, and someone is viewing it for fun and distributing it to friends and family and laughing at what you have on your computer, you know what would happen? they would also be fired and would not be able to get a job in any kind of industry that relying on security of information or privacy if anyone would want to employ someone like that anyway.

 

Its good to want to have privacy, but in the age of the internet, you should always assume you are being tracked in every possible way you can think of. If you don't like that idea, it's time to pull the plug. I've made peace with the fact that my information is out there, it's now up to me to determine what I'M comfortable with having companies know about me, and no one can tell me i'm wrong for accepting it because it's MY information, you can make your own choices about yours but don't force your opinions on anyone else because you're not happy about it

 

I go on facts, not speculation, and so far, most of this thread and almost every other Microsoft has been speculation based on previous actions or inherent bias. and yes i KNOW that MS has done shady shit in the past, but does that mean that everything they do is evil? no. If i made choices on what services i use or products i buy based on the business practices of the company, I would not own anything or use anything.

 

11 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

You can make money without being a monopoly

That's not what i said, i said " there is no one out there that would say no when given the chance to have all the money and remove all competition." but there are laws in place that prevent this. MS has broken some of these in the past and has been punished for it. but i don't care, because it doesn't affect ME

 

14 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Because Github is a company and the owners do not necessarily have to give a shit about how it operates. You can be the CEO or director but if the shareholders give in to greed there is JACK ALL you can do about it.

 

so i ask again, why blame Microsoft for this? the beneficial owners of GitHub made the choice to say yes.

 

26 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

How about MS not giving us any real good reasons to develop a bias against them?

it's fine to not like a company, but the massive hostilities that some people display is draining and getting old

 

25 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Why not go to the vending machine at closest church to pay for forgiveness?

oh, i dont believe in that stuff :)

 

 


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50k isn't a big amount of projects. There are a total amount of 85 million projects on GitHub so there's no problem there.


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