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ASUS made a mining motherboard that supports up to 20 GPUs

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Not sure if this is even relevant or interesting, as there have been other mining motherboards. Just thought it might warrant a thread because it uses a USB interface (still PCIe) and is apparently more optimized for mining and user friendly. I'm definitely not into cryptocurrency and I want my GPUs for MSRP. It's been better recently, I wonder what effect (if any at all) this might have on mining and GPU supply.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/30/17408610/asus-crypto-mining-motherboard-gpus

 

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Asus’ approach here is going to make maintenance easier, ensure fewer PCIe disconnects, and more accurate diagnostics. This is a better format than just plugging in graphics cards to the motherboard via PCIe, like you would in a gaming desktop, the company says.

 

The H370 mining motherboard is so focused on optimizing crypto mining that it includes tweaks specific to GPU-based data crunching by default. It’s a State Detection graphical user interface that identifies the location and status of each port (seen above) and assigns alphanumeric codes for easy identification.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, FieldGenEJ said:

Just thought it might warrant a thread because it uses USB

it's still PCIe. everything goes over a wire. you could run any signal over dumb cable standards like USB-A/B or even HDMI (not accounting for sheilding requirements).

 

in case people start thinking it's possible to use PCIe and USB interchangably ._.

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7 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

it's still PCIe. everything goes over a wire. you could run any signal over dumb cable standards like USB-A/B or even HDMI (not accounting for sheilding requirements).

 

in case people start thinking it's possible to use PCIe and USB interchangably ._.

Sorry I meant the interface is USB. Good looking out. I'll edit. 

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9 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

it's still PCIe. everything goes over a wire. you could run any signal over dumb cable standards like USB-A/B or even HDMI (not accounting for sheilding requirements).

 

in case people start thinking it's possible to use PCIe and USB interchangably ._.

Are you saying that USB is dumb, or are you talking about how it has no USB logic on it?

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That USB is really questionable for the durability.

If that's broken you end up with unused port.

 

I'd rather replacing the USB PCI adapter for $1 than having 1 unused port.

 

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18 minutes ago, ZcanKal said:

Are you saying that USB is dumb, or are you talking about how it has no USB logic on it?

oh i meant in terms of the cable. USB-C and lightning has chips on their end, basically saying "there is a power source on the other end" or "there is a computer on the other end" or "there is a computer trying to talk thunderbolt to you". it's hard for a multi-wire protocol to be physically bodged through a USB-C cable (for example) without any software, because of that chip.

 

was meaning to describe the opposite of "smart" cables ._.

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8 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

That USB is really questionable for the durability.

If that's broken you end up with unused port.

 

I'd rather replacing the USB PCI adapter for $1 than having 1 unused port.

 

I agree, but you could have a pci-e port go wrong same as USB though anyway, so no difference in the end, unless USB ports/controllers are more prone to hardware faults than pci-e?


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8 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

That USB is really questionable for the durability.

If that's broken you end up with unused port.

 

I'd rather replacing the USB PCI adapter for $1 than having 1 unused port.

 

Cause it's so damn easy to switch out a broken pcie port?

Also space is an issue, even with pcie 1x

And it's much more convenient when it comes to adapters.


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29 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

I agree, but you could have a pci-e port go wrong same as USB though anyway

You can't insert pcie x1 the wrong way, it's either go in or won't go in.

18 minutes ago, Kukielka said:

Cause it's so damn easy to switch out a broken pcie port?

 

The question is how could you broke it in the first place?

 

That person either an idiot, or very strong to damage pcie x1 port physically.

 

and the space issue has been resolved with b250

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Personally, I've seen to many broken USB ports because human error rather than broken pcie port, even my wife has broken some usb ports.

 

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5 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

You can't insert pcie x1 the wrong way, it's either go in or won't go in.

The question is how could you broke it in the first place?

 

That person either an idiot, or very strong to damage pcie x1 port physically.

 

and the space issue has been resolved with b250

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Personally, I've seen to many broken USB ports because human error rather than broken pcie port, even my wife has broken some usb ports.

 

It's not like you're pluging in a usb cable for a gpu about...1 or 2 times a year?

You're making it such a biggie when in reality it's nothing to be worried about.


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1 minute ago, Kukielka said:

It's not like you're pluging in a usb cable for a gpu about...1 or 2 times a year?

You're making it such a biggie when in reality it's nothing to be worried about.

Isn't that exactly my point?

it's not the amount how many times you plug it in.

 

It only take 1 screw up and you end up with useless port and don't have option to replace it.

It's fine to have 1 less usb port for regular computer since it can be extend with usb hub, but not mining board.

 

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9 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

That USB is really questionable for the durability.

If that's broken you end up with unused port.

 

I'd rather replacing the USB PCI adapter for $1 than having 1 unused port.

 

Usb port is easier to fix than a PCI lane connector. Why would it break if using for mining? Why would it break more than a PCI version?

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3 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

Isn't that exactly my point?

it's not the amount how many times you plug it in.

 

It only take 1 screw up and you end up with useless port and don't have option to replace it.

It's fine to have 1 less usb port for regular computer since it can be extend with usb hub, but not mining board.

 

Do you have the option to replace a pcie slot?

Also: I've seen a single broken usb port so far in my entire life, not sure what you are doing to your devices, a broken port is not common.


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Yeah, and a broken internal port? I've never seen one of those. Most if not all broken external ports are due to dropping something, pushing/leaning on the port.

 

Internally you are plugging in/unplugging, then putting the case back (or in mining, putting back on a jig/rig/rack and *leaving it alone*). Risk of breaking is the same as a PCIe slot.

 

It's like those people who say "Android phones break all the time", when people are giving Android phones to 3 years olds, and Apple phones to Grannys, and when the Granny drops the Apple phone after 3 years it shatters... but the 3 year old put the Android phone in the trash compactor after 2 weeks and "Android phones suck they only last 2 weeks!!!". ;) 

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3 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

Isn't that exactly my point?

it's not the amount how many times you plug it in.

 

It only take 1 screw up and you end up with useless port and don't have option to replace it.

It's fine to have 1 less usb port for regular computer since it can be extend with usb hub, but not mining board.

 

USB ports breaking is actually down to continued use, making the port weak, resulting in a break eventually. Youre nott going to break a USB port from one use.


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3 hours ago, TechyBen said:

Yeah, and a broken internal port? I've never seen one of those. Most if not all broken external ports are due to dropping something, pushing/leaning on the port.

Non-techies are surprisingly good at breaking internal USB-ports from my experience. From forcing a flash drive in to the port the wrong way, to tripping over connected cables or dropping laptops on the side. 

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Im curious what else a board like this could be used for. Maybe not this board, but the one with the 15 pci E connectors or whatever it was. 

 

I kinda wanna buy one of these to play around with. I can't imagine anything coming of it but it would be an interesting project. 

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9 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

You can't insert pcie x1 the wrong way, it's either go in or won't go in.

 

I never said you could insert pci-e the wrong way. I said that pci-e ports can go wrong, as in become broken/defective the same as USB ports can.


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5 hours ago, corsairian said:

Im curious what else a board like this could be used for. Maybe not this board, but the one with the 15 pci E connectors or whatever it was. 

 

I kinda wanna buy one of these to play around with. I can't imagine anything coming of it but it would be an interesting project. 

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6 hours ago, corsairian said:

Im curious what else a board like this could be used for. Maybe not this board, but the one with the 15 pci E connectors or whatever it was. 

 

I kinda wanna buy one of these to play around with. I can't imagine anything coming of it but it would be an interesting project. 

That is probably a $400 toy to play around with.

 

Be better just to mine with it and profit!

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17 hours ago, Cheezdoodlez said:

Non-techies are surprisingly good at breaking internal USB-ports from my experience. From forcing a flash drive in to the port the wrong way, to tripping over connected cables or dropping laptops on the side. 

Likewise with PCI slots. I've seen ebay boards (asking full price, but that's a different problem) with an entire PCIe slot ripped off and the pins sticking out/bent without any plastic. :P

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21 hours ago, Cheezdoodlez said:

Non-techies are surprisingly good at breaking internal USB-ports from my experience. From forcing a flash drive in to the port the wrong way, to tripping over connected cables or dropping laptops on the side. 

it could be argued that anyone buying or operating boards like these isn't tech challenged ._.

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