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How do I price my work ?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So, my friend, family and friends of my friends, know that I can do stuff with computers.

Installing a windows, build a pc, general diagnosis of a pc, data recovery, cleaning, or even soldering things and stuff like that.

I am not really good with money, so when ever they ask, "How much ?" for what I did, I always say something like, "I dont know. How much you like".

I don't know how to price the stuff I do with PC or laptops. Can someone point me to a video or book or something to help me with this ?

I will move out soon and get myself a new apartment. I would like to do this as a hobby. Any extra money wouldn't be bad. :)

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I'd just charge a lil less than specialized local shops in your area would normally do...


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CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
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CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'd just charge a lil less than specialized local shops in your area would normally do...

Thank you your Majesty. It is an honor to be visited by your presence. :))

 

Serious now, thank. But I still dont know how much. I never used specialized local shops to fix my pc. I never had to. 

How much is an OS instalation in your area, and cleaning a pc / laptop ?

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2 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

?

Since I am currently living in Brazil which is a lot more deficient in this type of service my personal experience probably isn't valid enough to serve as a base to yours.

 

You could always just do a lil research on your own, visit these places and what not.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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I charge $50 for a build and $25 for service, plus parts price, obviously.


DIOCLETIAN IV : CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X || CPU COOLER : Corsair H115i Pro || MOBO : ASUS Prime X470-Pro || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC || RAM: 1x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB, Samsung 850 Evo 1TB x2 || PSU: EVGA G2 850W w/ Cablemod Black & White Cables || CASE: NZXT H510 White || Monitor: Acer Predator X34A, HP 27yh || KEYBOARD: Corsair K95 RGB Platinum (MX Brown) || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero || Audio: HyperX Cloud Alpha, Logitech C920 || Case Fans : 2x Corsair ML140, 2x Cooler Master MasterFan Pro 120 ||

DIOCLETIAN III (HTPC) : CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8GhZ || CPU COOLER : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition || MOBO : MSi X370 Gaming Pro Carbon || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V (3200) || SSDs: Crucial P1 500GB, Crucial MX500 1TB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB || PSU: Seasonic 650W w/ Black & Red Extensions || CASE: Phanteks P300 || Monitor: Samsung Q60 65" QLED || KEYBOARD: Logitech G613 || Mouse: Logitech 305 || Audio: Samsung Q60R Soundbar || Case Fans : 2x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120, 1x Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-2000 ||

JUSTINIAN - Dell XPS 15": CPU: Core i7-9750H || GPU: GTX 1650 || RAM: 2*8GB 2666MhZ DDR4 SODIMM || SSD: 1TB M.2 PCIe || CASE: 15.6" Laptop with dBrand skin || Monitor: 15" 1920 * 1080 IPS || KEYBOARD: Dell Keyboard || Mouse: Logitech G305 White || Audio: Skullcandy Earbuds

OTHER : Dell Latitude (i7-6600U, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD) || MacBook Pro Mid 2013 || Various half-assembled towers ||

MOBILE : Galaxy S7 (32GB + 64GB uSD, main phone) || Honor 7X (Europe) || iPad Air 2 || Rooted Kindle FIre 7" ||

SMART HOME : Google Home x2, Google Home Mini x4, C-Life Smart Bulbs x5, Wyze Bulbs x a shitload, Wyze Plugs x3

ONGOING : PowerMac G5 workstation || 

DESK : 2x IKEA Gerton tabletop, 7x Olav table leg, 1x Alex drawer, 4x Capita leg

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

$25 for service

Like all kind of services ? What about data recovery and cleaning ? 

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4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Since I am currently living in Brazil which is a lot more deficient in this type of service my personal experience probably isn't valid enough to serve as a base to yours.

 

You could always just do a lil research on your own, visit these places and what not.

As I will move soon, I might do that in my new city. :) 

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25 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Installing a windows, build a pc, general diagnosis of a pc, data recovery, cleaning, or even soldering things and stuff like that.

Installing Windows is basically a cakewalk unless the HDD isn't formatted properly. I live in the US, so my prices would be in USD. You can adjust as needed depending on country.

 

But for installing Windows, I would charge no less than $20. Maybe up to $30 if I need to format the drive.

Building, I would charge the price of the parts plus labor, so maybe just $10-15. I have a lot of experience building, so it doesn't take much for me.

General diagnosis, maybe $20.

Data recovery, I've never done so no real idea.

Cleaning, I would charge $25.

Never soldered or needed to solder anything, so no input there.

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11 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Like all kind of services ? What about data recovery and cleaning ? 

I just charge a flat $25 fee for every 2 hours and $50 for a build plus price of parts


DIOCLETIAN IV : CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X || CPU COOLER : Corsair H115i Pro || MOBO : ASUS Prime X470-Pro || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC || RAM: 1x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB, Samsung 850 Evo 1TB x2 || PSU: EVGA G2 850W w/ Cablemod Black & White Cables || CASE: NZXT H510 White || Monitor: Acer Predator X34A, HP 27yh || KEYBOARD: Corsair K95 RGB Platinum (MX Brown) || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero || Audio: HyperX Cloud Alpha, Logitech C920 || Case Fans : 2x Corsair ML140, 2x Cooler Master MasterFan Pro 120 ||

DIOCLETIAN III (HTPC) : CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8GhZ || CPU COOLER : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition || MOBO : MSi X370 Gaming Pro Carbon || GPU: ASUS GTX 1080 Strix OC || RAM: 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V (3200) || SSDs: Crucial P1 500GB, Crucial MX500 1TB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB || PSU: Seasonic 650W w/ Black & Red Extensions || CASE: Phanteks P300 || Monitor: Samsung Q60 65" QLED || KEYBOARD: Logitech G613 || Mouse: Logitech 305 || Audio: Samsung Q60R Soundbar || Case Fans : 2x Cooler Master Masterfan Pro 120, 1x Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-2000 ||

JUSTINIAN - Dell XPS 15": CPU: Core i7-9750H || GPU: GTX 1650 || RAM: 2*8GB 2666MhZ DDR4 SODIMM || SSD: 1TB M.2 PCIe || CASE: 15.6" Laptop with dBrand skin || Monitor: 15" 1920 * 1080 IPS || KEYBOARD: Dell Keyboard || Mouse: Logitech G305 White || Audio: Skullcandy Earbuds

OTHER : Dell Latitude (i7-6600U, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD) || MacBook Pro Mid 2013 || Various half-assembled towers ||

MOBILE : Galaxy S7 (32GB + 64GB uSD, main phone) || Honor 7X (Europe) || iPad Air 2 || Rooted Kindle FIre 7" ||

SMART HOME : Google Home x2, Google Home Mini x4, C-Life Smart Bulbs x5, Wyze Bulbs x a shitload, Wyze Plugs x3

ONGOING : PowerMac G5 workstation || 

DESK : 2x IKEA Gerton tabletop, 7x Olav table leg, 1x Alex drawer, 4x Capita leg

 

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In my area, and at a shop I used to work at: 


Services:

Diagnostics: $60 (not charged if you do the recommended repairs). 
Virus Removal and Tune: $150
Tune: $80
System Setup: $50
 

Al la carte:

OS Installs: $120

Hardware Installations: $40/ea
Software Installations: $40/ea
Data backups or transfers to new drives: $70 per 100GB, cap at $250
 

There were other services, that I am forgetting exactly how we billed them - such as weird non-routine repairs. Likely we just did the hourly rate for the labor. Such as, tearing down a laptop to replace bad power jacks, screens, keyboards. Alot of those intensive repairs were billed at an estimated hourly rate. $80 minimum for the labor, + $40/hr after that. 

But really, you need to base your prices off of how much you need to make in order to at least break even. A shop has much higher operating costs vs someone in their garage fixing computers, for example. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
24 minutes ago, d3sl91 said:

In my area, and at a shop I used to work at: 


Services:

Diagnostics: $60 (not charged if you do the recommended repairs). 
Virus Removal and Tune: $150
Tune: $80
System Setup: $50
 

Al la carte:

OS Installs: $120

Hardware Installations: $40/ea
Software Installations: $40/ea
Data backups or transfers to new drives: $70 per 100GB, cap at $250
 

There were other services, that I am forgetting exactly how we billed them - such as weird non-routine repairs. Likely we just did the hourly rate for the labor. Such as, tearing down a laptop to replace bad power jacks, screens, keyboards. Alot of those intensive repairs were billed at an estimated hourly rate. $80 minimum for the labor, + $40/hr after that. 

But really, you need to base your prices off of how much you need to make in order to at least break even. A shop has much higher operating costs vs someone in their garage fixing computers, for example. 

When I install an OS I usually take 50 lei ( 12,5 $ ) + doing the windows updates and installing microsoft office. 

I guess that wouldnt be a bad deal in USA. :))

50 lei is like, approximate 10 bags of chips. Something like that.

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I recently helped my uncle with his computer, which didn't boot. He don't know much about computers, but he though he'd gotten a virus or something. I figured the HDD was dying, and was able to recover his files so he could RMA it.

Now I didn't charge him anything for this. However, I did have a favor to ask of him: My car's turbo was broken, and my dad found a cheap replacement online. I don't have the necessary skills to replace the turbo myself, but my uncle does. That's a win-win.

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1 minute ago, Tosa said:

I recently helped my uncle with his computer, which didn't boot. He don't know much about computers, but he though he'd gotten a virus or something. I figured the HDD was dying, and was able to recover his files so he could RMA it.

Now I didn't charge him anything for this. However, I did have a favor to ask of him: My car's turbo was broken, and my dad found a cheap replacement online. I don't have the necessary skills to replace the turbo myself, but my uncle does. That's a win-win.

Yea. I guess that would work. I dont charge my family, like my cousins, uncles. I dont even ask for anything. If they decide to give me something they will do, if not, not. Fam is important. ;) 

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Heres the thing though, by giving out completely free services, you are setting a precedent. If you do plan on trying to make money off of this, you will need to start charging people real money - or else you will be known as "that guy who does cheap work". Not "That professional I know". 


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ok question, what is your area? I can look up some local prices and give you some more specific info based on it

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1 minute ago, Jtalk4456 said:

ok question, what is your area? I can look up some local prices and give you some more specific info based on it

Europe, Romania, Satu Mare. 

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3 minutes ago, d3sl91 said:

Heres the thing though, by giving out completely free services, you are setting a precedent. If you do plan on trying to make money off of this, you will need to start charging people real money - or else you will be known as "that guy who does cheap work". Not "That professional I know". 

Yea, I know. But I will move soon. I will keep that in mind when I will do some pc work next time. :)

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56 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Europe, Romania, Satu Mare. 

I can't read that language, but i found a few for you to compare to

I'd go 10-15% lower price as a rule of thumb

http://saimonelectronics.ro/ro/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Simon+Electronics/@47.7975532,22.8455252,13z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sit+services+in+satu+mare!3m4!1s0x4738060895b2ac17:0x788b0cce56d0cb27!8m2!3d47.794521!4d22.868828

 

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2 hours ago, George_Bud said:

"How much ?"

How much is your time worth?

How much is your knowledge worth?

Look at the prices your competitors charge?

 

It is really that simple.

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2 hours ago, George_Bud said:

Al la carte

 

AI ? I can't code an AI. :))

Also apparently cant speak french.

 

But yeah charge about 20$ and the cost of the replacement parts if needed. But it depends on how poor the regio  you live in is, so maybe 10-15 dollars.

1 hour ago, George_Bud said:

 approximate 10 bags of chips.

But what brand? Is it supermarkets own nobrand chips or Lays?

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Figure out how long does it take you to do any given task you mention, in terms of hours.

 

What is minimum wage in your area? Or, how much do you value your time? $10/hr, $20/hr, etc.

 

That's your bill rate. Multiply the time it took you to do X with your hourly charge rate and then that is what the job costs.

 

I.e.. If it takes you 2 hours to build a computer, and your rate is $20/hr, bill the client 2 hrs * $20/hr = $40.

 

That is assuming you have zero overhead (eg tools, software, supplies like zipties, fasteners, etc) that need to be paid off/paid down. In that case, bill higher than your desired hourly take-home.

 

I.e. You need to buy $30 worth of incidental parts and tools, with which you can build computers for people. You need to pay for this with invoicing, not out of pocket. Instead of billing just for your time, increase the bill rate to cover this overhead. I.e., if you were asking $20/hr before, ask $25 or $30.

 

The idea here is that if you are being paid for working on computers, don't get screwed. Get paid a wage for your skills and to cover your expenses. Don't pay for stuff out of pocket.

 

Add a whole bunch of additional overhead expenses (staff, rent, soften effects of non-billable time) and you have why lawyers bill $500/hr or more. Their take-home is far less than that.

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1 hour ago, Some Random Member said:

Also apparently cant speak french.

 

But yeah charge about 20$ and the cost of the replacement parts if needed. But it depends on how poor the regio  you live in is, so maybe 10-15 dollars.

But what brand? Is it supermarkets own nobrand chips or Lays?

Lays. A 155g bag.

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10 hours ago, George_Bud said:

Lays. A 155g bag.

Then that's a fair price.

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