Outraged by the implementation of Women in Battlefield 5

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Still can't believe how devastating the S-51 used to be in WOT before the great rebalance.

SU 14-1 had the same gun with more ammo, better accuracy, better reload at the cost of bigger profile and lower mobility. that thing was even more fun

[Centurius]

Meh, the French resistance and Red Army had plenty of women fighting.

[GoldenLag]

16 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Still can't believe how devastating the S-51 used to be in WOT before the great rebalance.

One shotting tiger 2s with AP....... It was a great time. Why fire anything but AP in that thing? (it actually was cheaper)

 

These days the best artillery gun is on the deathstar, and it doesnt even fire in artillery mode

[sparkespress]

This is stupid. I dislike 3rd wave feminism and SJW crap but I'm not outraged that a woman is on the cover of a video game lol. Who gives a damn about historically accurate? It's a game, not a documentary.

 

Being outraged by this is just as bad as an SJW being outraged IMHO. 

[Agonizel]

1 minute ago, sparkespress said:

This is stupid. I dislike 3rd wave feminism and SJW crap but I'm not outraged that a woman is on the cover of a video game lol. Who gives a damn about historically accurate? It's a game, not a documentary.

 

Being outraged by this is just as bad as an SJW being outraged IMHO. 

At this point it's not even feminism, it's just common sense. Congrats on your 1st post by the way

[79wjd]

On 5/24/2018 at 8:26 AM, Razor Blade said:

This day in age. Anything you do, anything you say, anything you believe in, anything you don't believe in...somewhere, someone will be offended.

How dare you say that something must offend me..... 

[XenosTech]

17 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

How dare you say that something must offend me..... 

[mynameisjuan]

This pretty much describes gamers this week 

 

[dalekphalm]

4 hours ago, Serin said:

Only if they get some weird underground German electro-metal group to do the soundtrack.

Das Sound Machine

 

[Rune]

People are stupid.

Edit: Fuck it, just preordered the deluxe edition.

[Razor Blade]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

How dare you say that something must offend me..... 

You being offended offends me.

[EPENEX]

If Battlefield 5 was a successor to Battlefield 4 and took place shortly in the future and they decided to have female characters, I wouldn't care. I was actually kinda confused as to why Battlefield 4 didn't have a female character, you'd think all these modern Battlefield's would have at least one female. For them to add a female character in a setting that doesn't historically make sense is just SJW pandering. It ruins the game like how BF1 had semi-auto weapons everywhere. I was really hoping for a modern battlefield, but instead we get this shit. That's the third Battlefield in a row I won't be buying.

[Agonizel]

8 minutes ago, EPENEX said:

It ruins the game like how BF1 had semi-auto weapons everywhere

nope, it's not a mechanic: the game play remains the same woman or not. 
I'm repeating again & again & again & again to every new person in the comment section that does not take the time to read the thread correctly like he/she should:
Battlefield does not pretend to be historically accurate, nor does it want to be

[MilitantCro]

21 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

When has BF ever been accurate?

Never said BF, was talking about games/movies and stuff in general. Look at marvel comics, thor is now a woman, iron man is black chick, spiderman is black as well.

[MilitantCro]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

First of, that's not Thor in the lore it's a Valkyrie who takes up the role of Thor.  Not really into Iron Man, so not sure of the lore bit.  And, Peter Parker isn't the sole Spiderman.

Ofc they have to correct the character so it fits the new role.

[MMKing]

50 000 000 to 80 000 000 people died. Millions of people still remember this war, million of people still live with injuries related to the war. EA is using, by far the deadliest conflict in human history, as set dressing, with no consideration or respect to historical accuracy i might add.

 

I'm not just referring to the presence of a seemingly British woman on the battle field. Almost everything about the trailer is in very bad taste in my opinion. The second world is now represented as an arcade shooter.

 

Edit: Some 800 000 Soviet Women served in the Red army in nearly all functions. Including front line infantry, pilots, tank crew and perhaps most famously as snipers. Polish women played a significant role in the Polish resistance.

There were plenty of opportunity to represent historical female combatants, without pandering to western feminism.

[Blademaster91]

32 minutes ago, Beer_Nontitju said:

nope, it's not a mechanic: the game play remains the same woman or not. 
I'm repeating again & again & again & again to every new person in the comment section that does not take the time to read the thread correctly like he/she should:
Battlefield does not pretend to be historically accurate, nor does it want to be

And you keep ignoring the things people point out while repeating the same thing.

The difference with bf5 is EA is marketing it as a ''immersive WW2 '' game with what we can see for now is they didn't even try with making the female main character role realistic when it would have been easy to as for example as a Russian sniper which also would make it convenient to have extra campaign story events like Stalingrad.

 

[Agonizel]

2 minutes ago, MMKing said:

no consideration or respect to historical accuracy i might add.

So all the historical inaccuracies are disrespectful right? Not just the women, right?

[Agonizel]

14 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

EA is marketing it as a ''immersive WW2 ''

Aaaaaand I repeat myself again: Immersive does not mean historically accurate.
They can immerse you with high graphical fidelity or high quality sound design, it does not mean historically accurate.

I repeat for the last time, because you guys keep making the same arguments over and over that were invalidated over and over: Immersive does not mean historically accurate. If you interpreted it this way, it's your problem.

If the integration of a female character is the only inaccuracy among other numerous massive historical inaccuracies that bothers you and if a simple female soldier is what it takes to pull you out of the immersion, then your opinion is sexist no matter how you look at it.

[Deus Voltage]

13 minutes ago, MMKing said:

50 000 000 to 80 000 000 people died. Millions of people still remember this war, million of people still live with injuries related to the war. EA is using, by far the deadliest conflict in human history, as set dressing, with no consideration or respect to historical accuracy i might add.

 

I'm not just referring to the presence of a seemingly British woman on the battle field. Almost everything about the trailer is in very bad taste in my opinion. The second world is now represented as an arcade shooter.

 

Edit: Some 800 000 Soviet Women served in the Red army in nearly all functions. Including front line infantry, pilots, tank crew and perhaps most famously as snipers. Polish women played a significant role in the Polish resistance.

There were plenty of opportunity to represent historical female combatants, without pandering to western feminism.

Need for speed MW/UG 1 + 2= you hit civilians like a sociopath throughout the entire game and your car never gets totaled, yet I don't see people complaining about lack of realism.

 

GTA series: you die and you spawn over and over, get busted and the same happens, yet no one complains about lack of realism in that regard.

 

Counter Strike: Terrorists are loosely based on real stereotypes but they all speak with an American accent, no one complains about lack of realism.

 

Battlefield 5 touched a nerve as of late with the "anti sjw" crowd, that's all I can conclude.

 

At the end of the day, either the game is fun or it isn't, the rest is purely secondary. 

 

[BarackOBatman]

On 5/24/2018 at 8:25 AM, SC2Mitch said:

Literally people moaned on the BF forums about the lack of female soldiers, then this happens now people are crying and putting it behind a "political agenda" which is a load of bs. EA aren't the best company in the world, sure, but I think they've done some good worth this. But remember kids, NEVER PRE ORDER VIDEO GAMES NOR BELIEVE IN THE UNREAL HYPE, IT'S NMS ALL OVER AGAIN. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV69DyOuzbE

 

[maartendc]

I enjoy historically accurate shooters personally, I really enjoyed Verdun as a WW1 shooter. Battlefield 1 was fun as well, but way less historically accurate. Still fun to play, but I would have been happier if it had some more accuracy, particularly in the trench warfare gameplay.

 

In my opinion, female soldiers is NOT the worst historical inaccuracy we saw in the trailer for Battlefield V.

 

What bothered me most about the trailer was the "we are a badass band of misfits shooting our way through Nazi scum" aspect of it. What bothered me was the apparent heavy leaning on "cosmetic customization" instead of just having everyone wear standard uniforms.

 

This seems more like: Destiny 2: Battlefield WW2 edition, or even "Battlefield: Inglorious Bastards edition" rather than a successor to Battlefield 1942.

 

To me, these kinds of depictions of WW2, with cosmetics, and "hey we are having badass fun" kind of make light of the real suffering and historic tragedy of WW2, which really rubs me the wrong way.

 

You could argue that any video game depiction of a real war does this, but in a game like Verdun, or even Battlefield 1942, you can take war seriously. You really feel it would have been awful to be at war. The trailer to Battlefield V made me feel like they are making light of WW2, which is a slippery slope IMO.

 

Let's hope the game ends up being very different from the trailer.

 

 

[Hunter259]

4 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

Still can't believe how devastating the S-51 used to be in WOT before the great rebalance.

 

4 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

SU 14-1 had the same gun with more ammo, better accuracy, better reload at the cost of bigger profile and lower mobility. that thing was even more fun

 

4 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

One shotting tiger 2s with AP....... It was a great time. Why fire anything but AP in that thing? (it actually was cheaper)

 

These days the best artillery gun is on the deathstar, and it doesnt even fire in artillery mode

You two make me sad.

 

 

215B 183 best arty NA. Pls don't take my HESH.

[Agonizel]

2 minutes ago, maartendc said:

I enjoy historically accurate shooters personally, I really enjoyed Verdun as a WW1 shooter. Battlefield 1 was fun as well, but way less historically accurate. Still fun to play, but I would have been happier if it had some more accuracy, particularly in the trench warfare gameplay.

 

In my opinion, female soldiers is NOT the worst historical inaccuracy we saw in the trailer for Battlefield V.

 

What bothered me most about the trailer was the "we are a badass band of misfits shooting our way through Nazi scum" aspect of it. What bothered me was the apparent heavy leaning on "cosmetic customization" instead of just having everyone wear standard uniforms.

 

This seems more like: Destiny 2: Battlefield WW2 edition, or even "Battlefield: Inglorious Bastards edition" rather than a successor to Battlefield 1942.

 

To me, these kinds of depictions of WW2, with cosmetics, and "hey we are having badass fun" kind of make light of the real suffering and historic tragedy of WW2, which really rubs me the wrong way.

 

You could argue that any video game depiction of a real war does this, but in a game like Verdun, or even Battlefield 1942, you can take war seriously. You really feel it would have been awful to be at war. The trailer to Battlefield V made me feel like they are making light of WW2, which is a slippery slope IMO.

 

Let's hope the game ends up being very different from the trailer.

 

 

What about battlefield bad company 2 which is reputed as one of the best campaigns in Battlefield history although being lighthearted?
What about Wolfenstein?
What about Aldo's squad in Inglorious Bastards?

Do you feel the same way about all those?

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, Beer_Nontitju said:

What about battlefield bad company 2 which is reputed as one of the best campaigns in Battlefield history although being lighthearted?
What about Wolfenstein?
What about Aldo's squad in Inglorious Bastards?

Do you feel the same way about all those?

they don't, cause bj is a man