Is the fans in the S340 Elite sufficient?

[FazeBros265]

The title is self explanatory. I wanted to know if the S340 Elite will have good airflow, because with my current case. The airflow is really miserable. I'm asking because of an upgrade I'm doing which can be found in Builds and Planning. If there's a different case that has good airflow, but isn't too much of a price difference, and AIO cooling in the near future. Please let me know, as I'm planning to not upgrade for a while.

 

[Darkseth]

What hardware?

its a difference, if your Case needs to exhasust the warm Air from a 120w GTX 1060, or a 300w Vega 64 Custom (lets calculate typical 70-100w for a gaming CPU in general). That does make a difference.

 

Your basic must have is 1 Fan intake in the Front, and 1 Fan Exhaust in the back, both ideally 120mm - even okay, if they run <1000 rpm under load. 140mm would be a bit better.

Any fan more than those 2 will already have diminishing returns, and maybe only better your GPU/CPU temperatuers by a few single °C.

So even with ALOT more Airflow, your temperatures might not drop by alot, or not more than 0-2°C~.

 

However, 1 big advantage with 3-4 Fans, over 2: You can have the same Airflow of 2 fast spinning fans with 3-4 slower spinning fans. Even at full Load they won't need to spin at 100%, providing enough airflow and a low noise at the same Time.

 

 

S340 Elite has 2 fans. 1 in the Rear, 1 at the Top (rear top!). Nothing in the Front. Hot air will be pulled out, but cold air won't flow in that fast, and most importantly: Not that "directed towards your GPU/CPU heatsinks". Fresh air WILL be pulled in with a negative air pressure status through all the holes.

 

It would be very suggested, you put in 1 good/decent 140mm Fan in the Front, so there is 1 Fan blowing fresh air directly to your GPU.

 

However, this will increase the Price, and other cases won't be far away then. Like the fairly new, and very interesting (looks, design, build, Layout, etc) Fractal Design Define R6, which comes with 3x 140mm Fans included, and a Fan control, along with several other features.

 

 

If you go for an AiO (pls do NOT get any CPU-AiO with a 120/140mm Radiator. you ALWAYS want one with a double-fan Radiator, 240mm (2x 120) or 280 (2x 140) depending on price, size, etc etc.

The S340 is pretty much made for this with missing Front Fans. You can put your AiO Radiator into the front, it will pull fresh air, cool your CPU, and the rest goes directly into your Case, aka: Direct Airflow in + Direct Airflow out.

For example, the latest Corsair H115i Pro is pretty decent, and basicly the first Corsair AiO that isn't very loud   Price, Design, Performance, Loudness are all quite good on this one.

 

 

 

TL;DR: If you will put an AiO into the Case (in the Front, Intake), this Case will provide more than enough Airflow for any Graphics Card you can put in there, nothing will overheat (at least NOT because of not enough Case airflow).

[FazeBros265]

4 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

What hardware?

its a difference, if your Case needs to exhasust the warm Air from a 120w GTX 1060, or a 300w Vega 64 Custom (lets calculate typical 70-100w for a gaming CPU in general). That does make a difference.

 

Your basic must have is 1 Fan intake in the Front, and 1 Fan Exhaust in the back, both ideally 120mm - even okay, if they run <1000 rpm under load. 140mm would be a bit better.

Any fan more than those 2 will already have diminishing returns, and maybe only better your GPU/CPU temperatuers by a few single °C.

So even with ALOT more Airflow, your temperatures might not drop by alot, or not more than 0-2°C~.

 

However, 1 big advantage with 3-4 Fans, over 2: You can have the same Airflow of 2 fast spinning fans with 3-4 slower spinning fans. Even at full Load they won't need to spin at 100%, providing enough airflow and a low noise at the same Time.

 

 

S340 Elite has 2 fans. 1 in the Rear, 1 at the Top (rear top!). Nothing in the Front. Hot air will be pulled out, but cold air won't flow in that fast, and most importantly: Not that "directed towards your GPU/CPU heatsinks". Fresh air WILL be pulled in with a negative air pressure status through all the holes.

 

It would be very suggested, you put in 1 good/decent 140mm Fan in the Front, so there is 1 Fan blowing fresh air directly to your GPU.

 

However, this will increase the Price, and other cases won't be far away then. Like the fairly new, and very interesting (looks, design, build, Layout, etc) Fractal Design Define R6, which comes with 3x 140mm Fans included, and a Fan control, along with several other features.

 

 

If you go for an AiO (pls do NOT get any CPU-AiO with a 120/140mm Radiator. you ALWAYS want one with a double-fan Radiator, 240mm (2x 120) or 280 (2x 140) depending on price, size, etc etc.

The S340 is pretty much made for this with missing Front Fans. You can put your AiO Radiator into the front, it will pull fresh air, cool your CPU, and the rest goes directly into your Case, aka: Direct Airflow in + Direct Airflow out.

For example, the latest Corsair H115i Pro is pretty decent, and basicly the first Corsair AiO that isn't very loud   Price, Design, Performance, Loudness are all quite good on this one.

 

 

 

TL;DR: If you will put an AiO into the Case (in the Front, Intake), this Case will provide more than enough Airflow for any Graphics Card you can put in there, nothing will overheat (at least NOT because of not enough Case airflow).

CPU		AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor	$324.98
CPU Cooler		Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.89
Thermal Compound		Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste	$5.45
Motherboard		Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$140.98
Memory		G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$185.98
Storage		Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$99.99
		Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$82.16
Case		NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99
Power Supply		SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.90
Ok, I might consider a whole new case. But from what you said, I can just get a 140 mm fan, and I'll be fine. I don't really wanna spend more on a case with no improvement at all. Thanks for your information			Total: $1059.32

[FazeBros265]

13 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

What hardware?

its a difference, if your Case needs to exhasust the warm Air from a 120w GTX 1060, or a 300w Vega 64 Custom (lets calculate typical 70-100w for a gaming CPU in general). That does make a difference.

 

Your basic must have is 1 Fan intake in the Front, and 1 Fan Exhaust in the back, both ideally 120mm - even okay, if they run <1000 rpm under load. 140mm would be a bit better.

Any fan more than those 2 will already have diminishing returns, and maybe only better your GPU/CPU temperatuers by a few single °C.

So even with ALOT more Airflow, your temperatures might not drop by alot, or not more than 0-2°C~.

 

However, 1 big advantage with 3-4 Fans, over 2: You can have the same Airflow of 2 fast spinning fans with 3-4 slower spinning fans. Even at full Load they won't need to spin at 100%, providing enough airflow and a low noise at the same Time.

 

 

S340 Elite has 2 fans. 1 in the Rear, 1 at the Top (rear top!). Nothing in the Front. Hot air will be pulled out, but cold air won't flow in that fast, and most importantly: Not that "directed towards your GPU/CPU heatsinks". Fresh air WILL be pulled in with a negative air pressure status through all the holes.

 

It would be very suggested, you put in 1 good/decent 140mm Fan in the Front, so there is 1 Fan blowing fresh air directly to your GPU.

 

However, this will increase the Price, and other cases won't be far away then. Like the fairly new, and very interesting (looks, design, build, Layout, etc) Fractal Design Define R6, which comes with 3x 140mm Fans included, and a Fan control, along with several other features.

 

 

If you go for an AiO (pls do NOT get any CPU-AiO with a 120/140mm Radiator. you ALWAYS want one with a double-fan Radiator, 240mm (2x 120) or 280 (2x 140) depending on price, size, etc etc.

The S340 is pretty much made for this with missing Front Fans. You can put your AiO Radiator into the front, it will pull fresh air, cool your CPU, and the rest goes directly into your Case, aka: Direct Airflow in + Direct Airflow out.

For example, the latest Corsair H115i Pro is pretty decent, and basicly the first Corsair AiO that isn't very loud   Price, Design, Performance, Loudness are all quite good on this one.

 

 

 

TL;DR: If you will put an AiO into the Case (in the Front, Intake), this Case will provide more than enough Airflow for any Graphics Card you can put in there, nothing will overheat (at least NOT because of not enough Case airflow).

Know any fans that I can use? It can be RGB, but I don't really care.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 hour ago, FazeBros265 said:

The title is self explanatory. I wanted to know if the S340 Elite will have good airflow, because with my current case. The airflow is really miserable. I'm asking because of an upgrade I'm doing which can be found in Builds and Planning. If there's a different case that has good airflow, but isn't too much of a price difference, and AIO cooling in the near future. Please let me know, as I'm planning to not upgrade for a while.

 

I have a regular S340 but it had the same fans. I kept one of them, but they're super quiet and, as a result, move almost no air at all.

[WoodenMarker]

What graphics card do you have and what are your system temps?

[whoisit1118]

S340 Elite stock fans are not enough. You need to add front intake fans for maximum performance. My GPU temperature dropped 10 degrees after adding two ML140s as intakes.

[LogicalDrm]

Whats the current/previous case? Like said, S340 needs some intake. You can get away by moving top fan to front, but I would recommend getting another rear exhaust and moving stock fans to front.

[FazeBros265]

On 5/15/2018 at 9:08 AM, Darkseth said:

What hardware?

its a difference, if your Case needs to exhasust the warm Air from a 120w GTX 1060, or a 300w Vega 64 Custom (lets calculate typical 70-100w for a gaming CPU in general). That does make a difference.

 

Your basic must have is 1 Fan intake in the Front, and 1 Fan Exhaust in the back, both ideally 120mm - even okay, if they run <1000 rpm under load. 140mm would be a bit better.

Any fan more than those 2 will already have diminishing returns, and maybe only better your GPU/CPU temperatuers by a few single °C.

So even with ALOT more Airflow, your temperatures might not drop by alot, or not more than 0-2°C~.

 

However, 1 big advantage with 3-4 Fans, over 2: You can have the same Airflow of 2 fast spinning fans with 3-4 slower spinning fans. Even at full Load they won't need to spin at 100%, providing enough airflow and a low noise at the same Time.

 

 

S340 Elite has 2 fans. 1 in the Rear, 1 at the Top (rear top!). Nothing in the Front. Hot air will be pulled out, but cold air won't flow in that fast, and most importantly: Not that "directed towards your GPU/CPU heatsinks". Fresh air WILL be pulled in with a negative air pressure status through all the holes.

 

It would be very suggested, you put in 1 good/decent 140mm Fan in the Front, so there is 1 Fan blowing fresh air directly to your GPU.

 

However, this will increase the Price, and other cases won't be far away then. Like the fairly new, and very interesting (looks, design, build, Layout, etc) Fractal Design Define R6, which comes with 3x 140mm Fans included, and a Fan control, along with several other features.

 

 

If you go for an AiO (pls do NOT get any CPU-AiO with a 120/140mm Radiator. you ALWAYS want one with a double-fan Radiator, 240mm (2x 120) or 280 (2x 140) depending on price, size, etc etc.

The S340 is pretty much made for this with missing Front Fans. You can put your AiO Radiator into the front, it will pull fresh air, cool your CPU, and the rest goes directly into your Case, aka: Direct Airflow in + Direct Airflow out.

For example, the latest Corsair H115i Pro is pretty decent, and basicly the first Corsair AiO that isn't very loud   Price, Design, Performance, Loudness are all quite good on this one.

 

 

 

TL;DR: If you will put an AiO into the Case (in the Front, Intake), this Case will provide more than enough Airflow for any Graphics Card you can put in there, nothing will overheat (at least NOT because of not enough Case airflow).

Sorry, but if I do get the Define R6, will I need to add additional fans? Because I'm thinking of getting the R6 instead of the S340.

[Dedayog]

Define R6 needs additional fans as well.  2x 140 are nice in the front, but the single 140 in the rear just isn't enough for a high-end GPU/CPU.

 

What Darkseth says applies to the Define R6 as well (including AIO recommendations).  The R6 is just larger really but still has the same airflow requirements and setup options.  

 

In any case, you want 2x 120 or 140 fans in front and again in the rear/top.  Anything less just doesn't get that accumulated heat out.  

 

Edit:  Meant Darkseth's post.

[FazeBros265]

6 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Define R6 needs additional fans as well.  2x 140 are nice in the front, but the single 140 in the rear just isn't enough for a high-end GPU/CPU.

 

What FazeBRos256 says applies to the Define R6 as well (including AIO recommendations).  The R6 is just larger really but still has the same airflow requirements and setup options.  

 

In any case, you want 2x 120 or 140 fans in front and again in the rear/top.  Anything less just doesn't get that accumulated heat out.  

Thanks, I was just wondering. Any fans you would like to recommend?

[Dedayog]

Sorry, not much experience in specific fans.  I'll leave that to someone else.  I'm using the stock fans in the R6 and bought another of the same, plus the Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate and whatever fans come with that.

 

Saw huge drops in temp just by adding the 360mm AIO to the top for exhaust currently, just to evacuate the 80c+ mass of hot air off the GPU.  CPUs get hot in a pinpoint area, GPUs get hot ALL OVER the damn thing    Case airflow is key.

 

 

Edit:  I'll be moving the AIO to the front though, which should lower temps another good bit.

[Dedayog]

This is interesting about exhaust only fan setups on the new NZXT H500... graphs start at 12 minutes in.

 

 

 

[Darkseth]

5 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

Define R6 needs additional fans as well.  2x 140 are nice in the front, but the single 140 in the rear just isn't enough for a high-end GPU/CPU.

No, this is Wrong.

 

I have the Define R5 which had only 2 fans (1 Front, 1 Rear).

I put the Rear one to the Front, and put a BeQueit Silent Wing in the back.

Similar 3-fan setup here, with a different Rear fan.

But i also had a high Airflow Fractal Design Venturi HF14 140mm, which i bought as the 3rd, before i got the Silent Wing 3. I put the Venturi on the Top, also exhaust.

4-fan setup here.

 

Setup was i7 6700k @ 4.4 Ghz @ 1.28 Volt ("just" a Thermalright Macho HR02 Rev. B)

and a GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X @ Stock (215-220w~ power consumption).

 

What i wanted to see is, if my GPU will have a lower temperature, with a 4th Fan, or not.

Spoiler alert: No.

Didn't matter at all, if i had the Venturi @ the Top completely off, or running at 100% (and trust me, this is LOUD. This baby blows 200 m³/h at 1200 rpm.

This "additional airflow", or better saying, additional "take hot Air away", didn't to anything at all. GPU had the exact same temperature under full Load (did a Valley loop, and Witcher 3 ultra). temperatures did not change at all.

 

Also, having the stock 2 Fans vs. having 3 Fans (2nd one in the front) didn't do much either. Maybe 1-2°C or so for the GPU.

 

I send the venturi back, because i would NEVER need this airflow (and will never want this noise under no thinkable circumstance.). I now have both Define R5 fans in the Front, and the BeQuiet Silent Wing 3 in the Rear, all controller with Speedfan with an automatic Fan Curve based on the GPU Temperature.

In Idle, they all 3 spin at 430-490 rpm, under full Load they go up tomaybe 800-850? or 900~.

My GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X is undervolted, so at same clock speed and +500 Mhz Memory OC it runs at 0.900v, and consumes only <185w.

 

 

 

 So no. Based on my own experience, you do NOT need to add any additional Fan in the R6, even if you use a big Aircooler for the CPU, and a high end custom GPU non-DHE style.
More fans will not change the temperatuer more than max 1°C, or maybe 2°C (with 250-300w GPUs maybe.. didn't try, but i doubt it will do anything).

[Dedayog]

In my R6, it did.  Adding additional fans (an AIO was used) to exhaust dropped GPU temps quite a bit.  1080Ti was hitting thermal throttle (84c) and adding the fan allowed it to hit 2K+ Mhz in the low 80's instead.

 

 

 

 

[Darkseth]

Which 1080 ti model was it?

Stock or Overclocked manually?

[Dedayog]

Gigabyte AORUS, not the Extreme.  Yes, manually overclocked viz MSI Afterburner.  Even stock in the R6, with stock fan setups (before the AIO), I was hitting 1750Mhz at 79c, with a max temp allowed of 84c.  So she was throttling pretty good.

 

When I added the AIO at first, She would hit high 1900's in Mhz at the same temp, stock settings.  

 

More exhaust helped from my testing, with my setup and components.  Stock R6 caused throttling due to temps on my 1080ti, may impact a cooler card (1060 or 1070) less.