The LAST Thermal Paste you'll ever need??

[nicklmg]

Buy IC Graphite on Amazon: http://geni.us/9pYB

 

You may NEVER need to use thermal paste again thanks to this new product...

 

 

[LienusLateTips]

不要，谢谢

[nicklmg]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

不要谢谢

但为什么

(hopefully this actually says "but why" #GoogleTranslate)

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

但为什么

(hopefully this actually says "but why" #GoogleTranslate)

They added a extra unneeded character in there but yes that does mean "but why"

[r2724r16]

10 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

You may NEVER need to use thermal paste again thanks to this new product...

That's a broad claim. 

[seon123]

Could you use it as a high end thermal pad? Or is conductiveness a no-no for those?

[AlTech]

When I originally read this title on floatplane, I was secretly hoping for "The last Clickbait title you'll ever read". Seriously, these CLICKBAIT titles are so annoying .

[Canada EH]

8 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

That's a broad claim. 

click bait AGAIN

[WereCat]

RIP vertical mounting of the cooler

[minibois]

It's not a paste, this is clickbait. Good day sir.

/s

 

Cool video, interesting product.

The first think I thought was "huh, seems like this is a small thermal pad if you're using Threadripper or similar size CPU's", just like Linus mentioned later.

 

[Canada EH]

Just now, Minibois said:

It's not a paste, this is clickbait. Good day sir.

/s

 

Cool video, interesting product.

click bait worked on you

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

RIP vertical mounting of the cooler

? You mount your coolers after they are in the case?

[WereCatf]

Huh, seems like a pretty neat product. I certainly don't get any enjoyment out of messing with thermal paste, so I think I'll be getting some of these in the future.

[minibois]

5 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

click bait worked on you

It sure did my dood.

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

? You mount your coolers after they are in the case?

Out of the one time I built my PC and one time I swapped the cooler I can say: yes and no personally.

With my (AMD Wraith) stock cooler, I mounted the cooler when the motherboard was out of the case, but on my aftermarket Be Quiet Dark Rock 3, I mounted it when the motherboard was in the PC. I found that easier.

When installing a larger cooler, the case kind of acts like a third hand/arm that hold the motherboard so you can access both sides of the it more easily.

[IAnthonyFX]

how much is it?

[WereCatf]

29 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Buy IC Graphite on Amazon: http://geni.us/9pYB

 

You may NEVER need to use thermal paste again thanks to this new product...

 

 

Quick question: did you guys happen to test if its orientation matters to its performance? If it conducts heat better in one direction than in an other, would it perform even a little bit better if it was orientated so that it conducts heat better towards the heatpipes? I'd love to know!

[Borland C]

The link in the description (http://geni.us/9pYB) leads to: We found 0 results for "IC Graphite thermal pad"

How much does it cost anyways?

[Hunter259]

Is it able to replace traditional thermal pads? Does it have higher conductivity than a normal thermal pad?

[nicklmg]

16 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Quick question: did you guys happen to test if its orientation matters to its performance? If it conducts heat better in one direction than in an other, would it perform even a little bit better if it was orientated so that it conducts heat better towards the heatpipes? I'd love to know!

@AlexTheGreatish would be able to say for sure, but my understanding from the video is that it has different conduction ratings for horizontal & vertical conduction, rather than having different ratings for x & y. So that is to say I don't THINK it would matter, but I don't know for sure.

13 minutes ago, Borland C said:

The link in the description (http://geni.us/9pYB) leads to: We found 0 results for "IC Graphite thermal pad"

How much does it cost anyways?

I wasn't able to find it sold anywhere currently  so Linus' "maybe they're out of stock after sending us this master carton" joke may have been more accurate than we expected lol.

 

It seems like it would be somewhere in the $10-20 range, but I have no basis for that other than pricing of other graphite pads that I've seen.

[Techmage]

Can you use it instead of liquid metal after delidding? They say the horizontal transfer of heat is awesome so in theory it would greatly increase the contact size between the chip and the "cover". Maybe you have to put some filling stuff around the chip itself so everything has the same hight?

[Zerim]

Looking at the Bulk Thermal Compound video, you guys used some generic Chinese paste off Amazon. Kind of disappointing that you guys do all this testing of "GaMeR gRaDe" TIM and don't even look at professional bulk stuff (that's also often cheaper than $100/kg), like from Wakefield Vette, Laird, Bergquist, Aavid, MG Chemicals, Chemtronics, etc. 

According to this paper, Dow makes thermal compound 4x better than Arctic Silver, and don't lie about it.

[AresKrieger]

2 minutes ago, Techmage said:

Can you use it instead of liquid metal after delidding? They say the horizontal transfer of heat is awesome so in theory it would greatly increase the contact size between the chip and the "cover". Maybe you have to put some filling stuff around the chip itself so everything has the same hight?

It's not as effective as liquid metal but unlike liquid metal it doesn't pit or wear out so probably could be used but isn't likely a perfect solution for on die

 

 

I'm very interested in these sheets, but do not see a list price I'm guessing its still in a testing and informational stage atm

[nicklmg]

12 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

I'm very interested in these sheets, but do not see a list price I'm guessing its still in a testing and informational stage atm

They have a listing on amazon.com but it's currently unavailable so yeah I'm guessing you're probably right.

[teem]

There're (supposedly) similar thermal pads available on AliExpress (search term: 'graphite cooling film').

Thermal z-axis conductivity is advertised to be 15 to 20 W/m-K. Not quite 35 W/m-K like the IC pad, but still better than standard cooling pads.

 

I wonder how they compare in practice. 

[mariushm]

Urgh ... you should change the title ... it's a PAD, not a paste...

 

it has some cons, you only pointed one in the video :

 

1. it's conductive

2. it has a fixed thickness and while it does compress well without losing its characteristics, it's not as good in this department as thermal paste - you can put a blob of paste and the simple pressure of the heatsink will spread the paste. Default downward pressure of various retail coolers can vary a lot - some may not put enough pressure on the pad.

3. it doesn't deform as easily as paste ... for example let's say you have a laser engraved processor so it has grooves/cuts in the metal top... paste would get inside those, while these pads would stay above and you'd have a pocket of air inside that groove, between the metal top and heatsink. Same for coolers which have exposed copper pipes on the bottom .. unless the heatsink is perfectly flat you could have issues with these pads.

 

These are nothing new, companies already make these for some time, see Panasonic's solutions: https://industrial.panasonic.com/ww/pgs2/graphite-pad

Here's a datasheet from Panasonic's https://industrial.panasonic.com/cdbs/www-data/pdf/AYA0000/AYA0000C27.pdf

 

 

Laird Technologies also makes them : http://assets.lairdtech.com/home/brandworld/files/THR-DS-TGON-800 1109.pdf

 

These pads you guys tested are probably rebranded pads from some other manufacturer like Panasonic.

 

You can also see at the bottom that they're not the great, there's carbon fiber pads with better conductivity, but their downside is they're harder, they don't compress as well.